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On Fri Nov 30 17:29:49 2001 Marc Bernstein () said:
Herb,I'm so sorry that you are going through such a terrible and truly sad time. I think of you and remember how kind you have been to me on the chat. You have my e-mail:if you feel like e-mailing me:you can reach me. (if you would like to talk over the phone(416-960-9595) Hope things improve for you and your family. Best wishes and take care,from your friend,Marc Bernstein.

On Fri Nov 30 15:30:50 2001 Faith () said:
Herb, please know I'm still praying for you and your family. I echo Jim, please let me know if there is anything I can do!

On Fri Nov 30 14:12:45 2001 Jim () said:
Herb- If there is anything at all that I can do to help you, please email me. Jim

On Fri Nov 30 10:27:03 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Temps here last night were in the low 20's so nothing has thawed out yet. It is supposed to get up to 50 this afternoon. If it thaws things out before to late we will probably go to OKC late this afternoon or in the morning. Beth's body is now supporting 12 different strains of infection including psuedomonis (SP) which is a very dangerous one. It is the one that killed our grand son. All of our other problems are just going to have to wait while we deal with this one. Herb and Jodi

On Fri Nov 30 10:10:01 2001 () said:
10.08.31 should go the hell somewhere else if dont like it here...has no life....pathetic miserable fool........

On Fri Nov 30 10:08:31 2001 () said:
This must be shut down because it is a evil place where you cannot even say Jesus for help....PLEASE write the web owners...shut this site down..!

On Fri Nov 30 08:42:38 2001 just reading again ()@0.com) said:
Why do some people want this board shut down??? Some information here has been very useful. It's also a place where someone can vent their problems if they wish. Yes, I admit, some people can be crule with their remarks, but it still is a very good place for information.Best wishes to all diabetics.

On Thu Nov 29 16:38:11 2001 () said:
Herb - You and your family remain in the thoughts and prayers of many people. It is heartbreaking to hear of the challenges you are facing now; knowing that a loved one is suffering and not being able to do anything is a devastating experience. I know you have a source of solace and strength to call on during these times. A whole host is at your call to support you. I hope you can find comfort and strength to carry on despite what you face.

On Thu Nov 29 14:34:48 2001 () said:
Sorry Herb for your troubles....but this board is a evil bad place...we MUST get it shut down...I have send a certified mail to the web people ....suggest you do the same

On Thu Nov 29 13:04:41 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Just checking in. We are still iced in. No other changes in any thing. They had to pull Beth's J tube this morning. This is the one that they feed her through. So now she is not getting any anti biotics and they can't feed her. How long can she have? We still can't get there and Jodi is losing her mind. My blood sugars are soaring, 253 at bedtime last night, 183 at breakfast this morning. I normally run well under 140 and have more trouble with lows than I do highs. As soon as the lunch hour is over I will have to begin a round of telephone calls with Medicare and the insurance company. Jodi normally handles this sort of thing but she is just to frazzled right now. I'm sure that we will head to OKC just as soon as the roads clear so if I disapear from the board suddenly don't worry. As McArthur said "I shall return." By the way for what ever it is worth I would hate to see this board close. It has been such a good positive site in the past and can be again. Herb and Jodi

On Thu Nov 29 10:20:48 2001 () said:
Now is a good time to e-mail the webmaster....let them know we all want this place shut down...!! Attn: Herb CB Faith Connie and others...

On Thu Nov 29 09:26:02 2001 Faith () said:
Oh Herb, I'm so sorry for all the problems you are being bombarded with. Sounds like you need someone, (like a lawyer), to go to bat for you! These insurance companies can really be a pain in the butt! I pray you don't lose your chair. I know that it has been a lifesaver for you. Please, go ahead and cry, there is nothing like a good cry to take away some of that stress. And no matter what some people say, men can cry! Please give Jodi a big hug for me, and know that you and yours are in my prayers. We have had some pretty bad and cold weather down here too. But, it is suppose to warm up today into the 50's and get into the 60's this weekend. I really don't mind the cold, it makes for a nice change once in awhile. Hope everyone has a good day!

On Thu Nov 29 04:24:59 2001 cb () said:
Herb: Sorry to hear of your difficulties! Wow! Steve: 124lb? How tall are you? What is your age? I am 5'5 and 147lbs. This sounds like quackery to me. For most guys, that would leave skin and bone with a layer of fat; hardly a healthy condition to say the least. Please respond bro. 'and

On Wed Nov 28 19:52:52 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
People like to say "Things have got to get better they couldn't get worse." Guess what they did! I am beginning to understand how and why some of the folks who write here get real down in the dumps. The phone rang and it was Hoveround. They are putting out a recall on their chairs. I have been ordered not to use mine until they can get a man here to do something to it. It is supposed to be unsafe. We are having an ice storm. There is 1/2 inch of ice all over everything. So he can't get here and this also means that we can't get back to OKC to see about Beth. She is not doing any better. They pulled her infusaport today thinking it might be the source of infection. They put it in so they could give her IV antibiotics. They can't give them to her in her veins any more. Her veins are all collapsed and in terrible shape. I don't know what they can do now. On top of all this when we got home we had a notice in the mail that our insurance is going to be changed to a HMO effective Jan 1. It appears that our cost of drugs is going to double and I take 27 pills a day. On top of this we have a major billing problem. Our insurance was our primary when we were notified in July that Medicare should be our primary and our insurance should be our supplement. We received our Medicare card in August and were told that it went into effect Feb 2nd this year. The insurance company has contacted all of our doctors demanding refunds on all the bills they have paid since Feb 2nd and iforming them that they need to bill Medicare. All of my doctors have done this only to have their bills returned unpaid saying that I am not covered by Medicare as my primary that they are my supplement since my employer who agreed when I retired to pay for my insurance until age 65 is still showing me as and employee and payling that rate for my insurance. So now all the doctors are tired of the hassle and looking to us to pay the bills and file for insurance where ever we want to. The real scary one is that Medicare has declined to pay the $11,000 for this electric chair that is on recall. I know that this has gotten terminally long and has not said one word about diabetes. I just had to vent some where. It might be easier if I could cry like Jodi is doing. Herb (Bear)

On Wed Nov 28 18:19:01 2001 () said:
This is a evil place....needs to be closed.ASAP !

On Wed Nov 28 10:12:18 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
Well, nothing has changed here!!! Herb, I'm so sorry about Beth. Please tell Jodi not to blame herself. You both had no way of knowing about this. My prayers are with you and your family. DENNIS, please isgnore the rude comments! I would be happy to chat with you. Just email me anytime. The capsule injection mentioned earlier, sounds like what I have mentioned SEVERAL times here. The cells in the capsule, if it is what I am thinking of, are from pigs, not SCR. Have been sick for the past two days, started off w/a migrane Sunday evening, then other 'nice' problems. Feel better today! All take care!

On Wed Nov 28 01:54:57 2001 () said:
Connie! Try diabetesstation.org hit the discussion button and sign in. They keep the a-holes at bay. Lots of good stuff. Try it Hope this helps. :)

On Wed Nov 28 00:37:14 2001 () said:
start writing the webmaster....now is a good time to shut it down as almost no people are using it.

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