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On Wed Nov 14 23:39:21 2001 CB () said:
Glutamic acid is an amino acid which
the body CAN produce, but not in sufficient amounts. It is available
commercially as glutamine and is used by bodybuilders to prevent muscle
breakdown. It is also helpful in diabetic bs control. It is also SAFE.
On Wed Nov 14 22:17:09 2001 () said:
Marc, I use Milk Thistle, also know as
silybum marianumi...for liver toxic cleaning.....just look under either name on
Yahoo for full info,,
On Wed Nov 14 19:27:13 2001 Connie (cmart74@aol.com) said:
MarcW: I have a
private comp carrier..I still haven't heard anything from them. I was supposed
to call my Dist. Office if I didn't hear anything today. I came home from work
and fell asleep, too late to call. I'll see what they say first thing in the
a.m.. I have real mixed emotions about the cortisone injection. The placement
will be real close to the Ulnar nerve and I'm afraid of complications. If it
misses and hits the nerve it could really screw things up royally. I don't want
to be permanently disabled by it either. Will just have to see how it goes when
I talk to the Dr.. Herb: Oooh that chowder sounds delish! My hubby could never
stand for me to make it though. Smells of fish etc. make him gag. I buy Snows'
Clam Chowder when I get the urge, or if I go to the wharf at Monterey or Santa
Cruz I get a bowl full. Best stuff this side of Chocolate Mousse. Well I gotta
fix dinner. Nite all. Connie
On Wed Nov 14 16:33:30 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Damn
Herb, that sounds rather painful. I know John and I aren't the best of friends,
but next you talk to him tell him I wish him well. Gordon, do you know of
anything good for liver cleaning? I take many meds a day , things that aren't
good for the liver (pain pills). Are there any products that help keep it going
and clean? I think there is something called liverite, but I know nothing about
it. Thanks... Marc
On Wed Nov 14 15:44:16 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
GORDO: I
forgot. She adds a small cut up potato and a lots of onion to the chowder. It
makes 2 large bowls. I usually eat one today and the other one tomorrow. Herb
(Bear)
On Wed Nov 14 15:17:19 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
MARC: I
haven't heard on John yet. His procedure is this afternoon. I don't know what
the surgical name is for the procedure. Folks jokingly refer to it as being
roto-rooted. They are going to scrape and ream out his urinary trac. Herb
(Bear)
On Wed Nov 14 15:13:20 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
GORDO: She
starts her sauce by browning ground turkey, draining it and then putting it in a
colander and washing it until she is sure there is no fat. She then makes her
sauce by using tomato puree that is 100% tomatoes and adds her spices. It's
delicious. But I have alwlays been afraid to eat it over pasta because of the
carbs. I had her home made clam chowder for lunch. She uses a can of clams, a
jar of clam juice, and fat free sour cream to thicken it. It also is delicious.
Let me be honest, despite my fears I would eat the spaghetti once in a while.
Herb (Bear)
On Wed Nov 14 14:23:08 2001 Gordo (gordom@earthlink.net) said:
Herb: 1/2 cup
of spaghetti squash was one veg. exchange while 1/2 cup spaghetti was one
bread/starch exchange. Sp Sq is lower in essential amino acids than reg. but
does have 22 mg aspartic acid and 53 mg glutamic acid and 18% of the carbs.
Knowing your wife, she is not about to put things in the sauce that will sneak
up on you. This is what is known as intelligent cheating. When you have a
craving to overeat something, do it intelligently by eating things that do not
upset your BG numbers. This way you can achieve the sensation of fullness
occasionally with normal BG's. Another plus is that most of the small amount of
fats present are essential which are used for cholesterol removal to the liver.
Ask CB what the Aspartic and glutamic acid do, I don't know. Gordo
On Wed Nov 14 11:24:21 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Hey
Herb.. how ya doing? I read daily but sometimes it aint worth posting, ya know
what I mean. Haven't heard from Jim, don't think anyone will for a while. It
sounded like he had to take it easy for a while. So how's John?
On Wed Nov 14 11:21:34 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Connie, one more thing. Do you have a private carrier or are you with State
Comp? I know that State is going through many personnel (sp) changes there and
it has become almost impossible to get anyone to do their job there. My wife's
law firm is in the comp building, pretty funny huh? So we know many of the
claims people. Maybe we have the same adjuster, I know the one we have must have
won some contest to get her job, talk about brain dead! Well good luck....
Marc
On Wed Nov 14 11:19:16 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
MARC: Good
to hear from you again. How about JIM, has anybody heard anything from or about
him. I'm concerned about him! Herb (Bear)
On Wed Nov 14 11:06:17 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Hi
Connie.... about Comp, my wife has been dealing with them and work limitations
for years. My advise is lean on them like your life depended on it. It's a
vicious cycle your in and it has to be broken. Those little adjustments can make
a world of difference and the Dr should limit you to whatever is pain free work
for you. My wife got real bad from not pushing them until after the first year
and it cost her big time. Those who scream loadest get what they want, remember
that during your next call to comp. Good luck and I know what your going through
with the left handed thing, when I had a shoulder scope I had to do everything
right handed, I am left handed it was my left shoulder, it was the funniest
thing to watch. I couldn't even brush my teeth right handed! Watch the
cortizone, it's a killer on the bs for about 48 hours... take care and let us
know the progress you make..... Marc
On Wed Nov 14 10:32:47 2001 Connie (cmart74@aol.com) said:
FAITH: The
spaghetti squash is yellow and is shaped like a tiny watermelon. (The long not
round ones.) It has a hard rind, but you cut it in half and scoop out the seeds.
Place it cut side down in a pan with some water in it and bake till tender. For
speed I cover with plastic wrap and steam it in the microwave. When it's done
just start scraping it out with a fork. It makes quite a bit from one small
squash. Just cover it with marinara sauce (with or without meat) and enjoy. It
doesn't have a heavy squashy flavor. It's also great if you bake it with a
little Butter Buds (or margarine) and sprinkle with nutmeg or cinnamon for a
side dish. Have fun with it! I have to call my workmans' comp carrier and fight
with them today. They did an ergonomic inspection of my workspace and made quite
a few recommendations for changes to help with my tendonitis. That was 4 weeks
ago and nothing has been done yet. They haven't even sent the recommmendations
to my supervisor yet so they can implement them. I'm still expected to do my job
with the limitations given by the Dr., and get better without the changes
recommended? I don't know what they are thinking. It's been getting
worse..tingling and numbness in arm and 4th-5th fingers. I have to call Dr.
today also and see if he can add more limits to my writing and typing at work
because it's getting a little worse. This is the pits doing left handed typing
and doing stuff at home is more difficult too. I want to take a brick to these
peoples heads so they can see from my perspective what their procrastination is
doing. But then, that's corporate thinking I guess. Ignore it and it will go
away...NOT! Anyways...I'll try and make the best of today... Have a good one
everyone. Connie
On Wed Nov 14 10:29:45 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
FAYE: Yes
girl you deserve a rest. Jodi started several years ago on Thanksgiving and
Christmas telling the kids that we would have the turkey/ham and would fix it
but they would have to bring all the trimmings. Of course all of our daughters
and our 2 daughters in law know their way around a kitchen and pitch in and
help. It sounds like you are about where I am with your heart. I have 42% of my
heart function left. I really hope that your comment about climbing the mountain
makes reference to your depression and not your heart. Because as I am sure your
Cardiologist told you there is no repairing the heart once the damage is done.
The only thing they can do is stabilize your heart with meds and teach you how
to compensate for the lower heart function. It will mean doing almost everything
in short spurts because you will not have the stamina that you once had to just
hang in there and do things. You will tire very quickly and will probably find
an afternoon nap a real boost to your day. I hope I have not discouraged you.
You have already adjusted to many changes in your life. You can do this too. You
will soon learn how to use the word NO a lot more when people are asking things
of you. Herb (Bear)
On Wed Nov 14 10:03:28 2001 Faith () said:
Herb, thanks, boy do I feel
foolish! In all my 54 years, I'd never heard of it! I will get my husband to
look for it the next time he goes to the store. Thanks!!
On Wed Nov 14 10:00:36 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
HOOOOOORAAAAAAAAY: My BS was 100 this morning and this is after having what
was probably a 2 cup serving of spaghetti/spaghetti squash for dinner last
night. I even had some garlic bread. Wow that stuff is great. And it tastes good
to. FAITH: no one makes the squash. It is in the produce dept. along with the
other types of squash. It comes out smaller in diameter than spaghetti. It king
of looks like the angel hair pasta. I am impressed. How are all of you doing
this AM, well I hope. Herb (Bear)
On Wed Nov 14 09:47:24 2001 Faith () said:
Ok, what is spaghetti squash?
I've never heard of it! Who makes it? I'd love to try it!
On Wed Nov 14 03:10:47 2001 CB () said:
Herb/Connie; spaghetti squash is a
great idea. Of course, shole wheat pasta will take a little long to affect bs
due to higher fiber. Still, the squash is worth trying! Thanks
On Wed Nov 14 01:23:54 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
CONNIE: Now
I know where I heard about the squash. I was talking about the squash I read
about on here and was wondering what it would be like. Jodi slipped out and
bought one and fixed it. I thank you for suggesting it. I'm sure we all have
little food favorites that we have found to be delicious without totally
destroying our BS. We should all share them more often. Herb (Bear)
On Wed Nov 14 00:45:40 2001 CB () said:
Supplements for broken bones to ask
the doctor about: Metrx, (glutamine, methoxy. These help protein stnthesis to
aid healing. Glutamine can aid bs stabilization as well. Branched Chain Amino
Acids (BCAAc) provide the building blocks for new tissoe )not Bone). Ask the
doc, and ask for proof from studies if he/she says no. A sports doctor can be of
help. As always, questions are always in order. Begore I forget= AP shut up!!!!!
On Tue Nov 13 23:29:03 2001 Connie (cmart74@aol.com) said:
Evening All!
Herb: I posted recently about the spaghetti squash..isn't it fabulous? Spaghetti
without paying for it later in high B/S. I also tried the squash with a little
butter buds and nutmeg and baked it covered with plastic wrap in the micro.
Yummy! The oatmeal mix on the Splenda.com site is great too. It kept me full all
a.m. and no highs either. Fara: I hope you do get to go to Maine. You deserve
the chance to relax and enjoy yourself. Well, not much else to say tonite..Have
a good evening. Connie
On Tue Nov 13 22:38:35 2001 fara aka Faye (fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
Hi
guys, just to let you know that my test rresults are in and I have seen the
heart specialist that I have. According to the echogram that I had last week, my
heart has gone from being at 60% down to 45%, not good. Have been depressed all
weekend but am coming around now. Will be ok, even though I still have to climb
that mountain again to get to where I was!!!I know that I can do it. I will
still keep the event recorder on until Dec. #3. I go for my laser treatment the
19th, next Monday. and then I am heading for Maine ,I hope, to have Thanksgiving
with my sister and her family. IF the doctor will let me go. If I can, it will
be the first time that I have not gotten dinner in 35 years. I think I deserve a
break, don't you!!!! Everyone have a great evening.---Faye
On Tue Nov 13 22:26:04 2001 () said:
HERB WE WANNA KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS
ABOUT FAITH'S MOUTH..YOU WERE GONNA TELL US.....
On Tue Nov 13 22:00:17 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
FOLLOW UP:
Jodi just looked up sphagetti squash in one of her nutrition books for me. A 1/2
cup serving has 22 calories and 5 grams of carbs, no fat and no cholesterol. I
should have known she knew before she served it. Herb (Bear)
On Tue Nov 13 20:49:51 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
C.B. &
GORDO: I just had a delicious supper. Jodi fixed her turkey meat sphagetti sauce
and we ate it over sphagetti squash. It tasted great. The textue was just a
little different from pasta. I have a question for you guys. What is the
nutritional make up of sphagetti squash?? I'm very interested as to what my BS
is going to be in the morning. I'll let you guys know. Herb (Bear)
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On Tue Nov 13 15:15:44 2001 Ellen (x) said:
Connie, I tried to find the
oatmeal mix recipe you mentioned from the Splenda site and discovered it is a
vast website, so I have no idea where to hunt for it. Can you provide a recipe
name or something to speed the route for me? Thanks.
On Tue Nov 13 11:47:00 2001 Faith () said:
Connie, watch out for highs from
the Cortisone shots!!
On Tue Nov 13 10:37:02 2001 Connie (cmart74@aol.com) said:
Mornin' All, ():
Me thinketh you protest too much. Faith: I'll be ignoring () from now on. I just
had to do the right thing first. My B/S was 124 at bedtime last nite, and 111
this a.m.! Yeah! I found a yummy recipe for oatmeal mix on the splenda website.
Low carbs and very filling. Plus some ideas for adding flavors. Had it this a.m.
and will see how it affects me later. I had my nerve conduction survey
yesterday. It wasn't too bad. The needle pokes into the muscles was a little
uncomfortable, but finger pricks all this time made it bearable. The results
showed no nerve damage. Just irritation from the inflamation of the muscles and
tendons. Now I get the joy of having a cortisone shot in my elbow to reduce the
inflammation. Hopefully it'll turn this around. I'm tired of the constant ache
and occassional numbness. Anyway: Enough complaining..I still have lots to be
thankful for. You all have a good day. Connie
On Tue Nov 13 10:23:58 2001 () said:
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On Tue Nov 13 09:51:16 2001 Faith () said:
EXCUSE ME!!! Since when is
offering to pray for someone so bad. Oh, Connie, don't even bother with this
loser! He gets his/her kicks posting this crap!
On Mon Nov 12 23:55:18 2001 () said:
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On Mon Nov 12 23:24:01 2001 Connie () said:
I feel sorry for whoever the
unknow poster is. To think that life is so sad he/she has to log onto a Diabetes
chat room and throw idiotic statements around to try and stir up trouble. I
guess the only answer to give him/her is the ultimate answer. I will pray for
your soul to find salvation, rest and peace in God our Father. Amen
On Mon Nov 12 23:22:44 2001 CB () said:
Some dietary factors: metabolism,
bodyfat percentage/muscle mass, bodyweight, activity level and TYPE of activity,
complications/degree of complications, age, gender, and general health. If you
have a bad burn, a higher level of protein is essential to recover. Without
sufficient aminos, a wound cannot heal. OK idiot AP! Let's hear more of your
ignorant generalities.
On Mon Nov 12 20:27:47 2001 CB () said:
To 18:47, Listen stupid!!! That
question was legit. 90% of calories from starches and fats IS the real "diet of
death!" 30% of calories from fats is dangerous, especially if heated/saturated.
BALANCE is the key, but you listen to the know nothings who....you are not worth
the time, idiot! To Gordon, thanks!
On Mon Nov 12 18:47:51 2001 () said:
CB,,,,,,,,,,WILL BUY YOUR BOOK 'DIET OF
DEATH AND DESTRUCTION' WHEN IT COMES OUT YOU FOOL
On Mon Nov 12 18:46:40 2001 () said:
HERB,.....GOD IS PUNISHING JOHN FOR
DOIND ALL THOSE DIRTY DEEDS OVER THE YEARS...IS HIS OWN FAULT......CONNIE GORDO
CALLED YOU A DRUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!HEE HEE!!!!!!!!!!
On Mon Nov 12 17:58:45 2001 Gordo (gordom@earthlink.net) said:
CB: Sorry, I
had a detailed answer prepared but before I could hit chat, I lost my
connection. Basically, it said that each case depends on so many different
variables that it is more of a trial and error solution in most treatment
medicines. Gordo
On Mon Nov 12 15:25:32 2001 CB () said:
A real question here: I mentioned a
"fat controlled" lunch that had close to 1/3 of calories from fat. Seriously, I
wonder why the ADA has this fixation on high fat diets! Is this a "catch 22"?
Low protein to save kidney function, yet high carb/fat to damage the circulatory
system. Is this the choice for a diabetic? Lose muscle and suffer heart problems
or eat sufficient protein and die of kidney failure. Gordo, I need your help
here. APs, do not respond! This is a serious question!
On Mon Nov 12 15:24:11 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Herb, thanks for
letting us know about John, my sincere thoughts and prayers go out to him and
his family.
On Mon Nov 12 15:16:54 2001 Faith () said:
Herb, I surely will remember
JohnV on Wednesday! Keep us posted!
On Mon Nov 12 14:52:56 2001 () said:
Connie forget about that post....Jim
usually is the one that writes stuff like that
On Mon Nov 12 14:23:36 2001 Connie (cmart74@aol.com) said:
Well good day to
all of you! What a hilarious bunch of posts this AM! HERB:Thanks for your
support. I know that wasn't from Gordo. He's been much too kind for that
garbage. Even if it was him...it was certainly meant in jest and I would take it
that way. Faith: You're a dear, thanks too for the support. I'm glad you're
mouth is feeling better. Drinking? What a laugh, anyone who knows me knows I
have have the same two beers in the fridge we brought home from vacation last
summer. I have 4 drinks a year. Alcohol has always hit me hard and fast so I
know my limitations and stay out of it. I had a strange B/S this AM. Before when
I was on Micronaise, I knew when I was low because I could get the shakes at
readings from 95 or less. I woke up late this am (Holiday!!) and felt hungry,
but took a shower & dressed first. Then I checked and I was 61!! No shakes,
or any other symptoms...just felt hungry. That's scary!!! It was a true
reading..checked it twice. I changed meds because I was tired of getting the
shakes so often at mid-range numbers. Now I fear I've gone too far the other
way. Any Ideas? I wasn't in any hurry to check the b/s this am because I
splurged and ate 2 choc. chip cookies I made for the family last nite. I had
already had my snack of popcorn so I figured I'ld blew it and would be high this
am. Whoa what a surprise!! (Not that I'll do it on a regular basis now.) Well I
gotta go get some housework done. I'm kinda anxious about the nerve study I'm
getting done on my arm at 4pm. It's been pouring rain 1" an hour. Sure hope it
slows down by then. I'll keep John V. in my prayers for Wed. Have a great day
all! Connie
On Mon Nov 12 11:57:05 2001 () said:
CONNIE EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT WHAT GORDO
SAID
On Mon Nov 12 11:12:37 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Lets see if
we can experience a few moments of concern for a fellow diabetic. John V. is
going to have a serious and very painful surgical procedure done on Wednesday.
We should all be keeping him in our minds and hearts as he is getting ready to
have this done. Please let's try and show some respect. Herb (Bear)
On Mon Nov 12 09:48:35 2001 Faith () said:
Connie, ditto to what Herb said.
That post was not from Gordo. As you said, it was nice here while it lasted. My
mouth seems to be much much better. The oral rinse the doctor gave me seems to
have worked. Don't have the burning on the inside of my lips or on my tongue.
Hope you all have a great day today!
On Mon Nov 12 05:47:48 2001 () said:
Connie are you a closet drinker..?
Gordo says so///please explain more
On Mon Nov 12 00:36:02 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
CONNIE:
Please don't believe that post was from Gordo. I know the man personally and
this post is so far from his personality or way of doing things that there is no
comparison. He would never do aro say anything so rash and cruel. This is just
our friends way of trying to stir up trouble. Herb (Bear)
On Mon Nov 12 00:03:43 2001 () said:
Connie.....Gordo thinks you might be a
drunk...are you ?
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