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On Sat Sep 15 20:21:17 2001 () said:
who is this sabrina? so you're saying that this war isn't going to be anything big? you don't think that some signifigant damage could be caused when all this is over? do you think all these countries that are giving us their word that they'll be on our side is going to stay that way? you don't think that by the time this war is over that there might not be a whole lot of us left? well i'm in. i am not putting anything past bush. or the other leaders in the other countries. i'm hoping it doesn't get that drastic, but i'm ready for it if it does.

On Sat Sep 15 19:32:36 2001 Jim (same) said:
Sabrina- READ MY POST FROM FRIDAY AGAIN! The first sentnece (a group of words stopped by a period) was mine. The rest was copied word for word from a Nostradamus website.Read how the email says Nostradamus 1654. Also read where he died in 1566. Then read the passages where the HOAXER (is that a word?) only picked and chose what lines he wanted to use. Get a clue and don't be so naive. Please try to be brave enough to post under your name. God Bless America! Jim

On Sat Sep 15 19:11:46 2001 Marc Bernstein (same as before) said:
Oh,By the Way:about the Nostradamus warnings:I and other members of my family have been receiving e-mails of these poorly misquoted lines,which have been taken way out of context and badly distorted!! This is simply an attempt to create more fear and anxiety for people already anxious enough about this grave situation-ignore them!! That is what I'm trying to do! Marc Bernstein. PS:I wander when or if the Taliban will try to strike some sort of deal with USA? (in exchange for Bin Laden?)

On Sat Sep 15 19:03:36 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
I went to the American Consulate this afternoon,to pay my respects to America,and the many American friends and my relatives who live in USA. I am heartbroken at the news,angered by what has happened. I have never trusted Arafat,never will. He has to make the choice:peace with Israel NOW,Or risk losing all that the Palestinians have tried to get. If he was really sincere,he'd make more of an effort to control these hateful forces,such as "Islamic Jihad",Bin Laden,many others,who force Israel to defend itself,and rightfully too!! I walked almost a half a mile to the US Consulate,then back to my office,this despite worsening diabetes. (Yes,I'm suffering (as alot of people) from post-traumatic stress disorder,includes nightmares,etc..this is a time of trial for many of us.) I wish that we would all attempt to be there for each other,not lash out,understand that whether we are Jew,Christian,Islam,whatever faith or nationality,our lives have been turned inside out and it will take a long time before any of us recovers from such a dreadful trauma! Please everyone,make an effort to control our selves on this chat. I said a prayer(Yizkor) and some private personal prayers for the American people. I pray the USA will survive,and be strong. I wish for the cowardly,inhumane so-called Islamic demented animals,a thousand plagues from GOD!!! Plus-I also wish for that evil and satantic monster,Saddam-that he dies by his own enemies!! As for Bin Laden-I wait for his death!! Marc Bernstein.

On Sat Sep 15 18:54:51 2001 (*) ((******)) said:
I would think the quite wealthy Osama bin Ladenm is quite familiar with Nostradamus; need I say any more? Forget the prophecy crap, this guy is crashing and bombing right into our guilibllity and people believe it is a prophecy.....he just makes it all come true by reading a book......how bleak, how dreadfully awful.

On Sat Sep 15 17:59:13 2001 () said:
prove to me that nostradamus didnt say that. every documentary i've seen on the man has proven that he's a true prophet. i want proof that he didn't say that tell me where you found the passage. and not some chain email either. arafat is probably going to "misteriously" disappear after all this. he'll end up giving in to the u.s. and his people will assinate him.

On Sat Sep 15 16:40:53 2001 Jim (jimf_44047@yahoo.com) said:
Good afternoon everyone. Joy- That's what I posted (more or less) on Friday. You're right. Some people really buy into Nostradamus' writings. I personally don't. To the blithering idiot who attacked me after that post, Hooked on Phonics can work for you. Read before you attack. To the person who tried to spell that out to the blithering idiot, thank you. Marc W- I agree about Arafat. What really pisses me off, is watching the video of them fools rejoicing upon hearing the news. They don't even bother to think about the fact that if it wasn't for the U.S. mediating the deal, Israel might not EVER have given them part of their country back, and had the U.S. not kept after Israel, Israel would have already wiped them off the Earth years ago. Some thanks. GO GET'EM GEORGE! Jim

On Sat Sep 15 11:24:19 2001 Joy (*) said:
A lot of people are being frightened by supposed prophesies from the French astrologer Nostradamus predicting what happened on September 11. Here is what is being passed around the Internet: "In the year of the new century and nine months, From the sky will come a great King of Terror... The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city..." "In the city of york there will be a great collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb third big war will begin when the big city is burning" These quotes are false. We repeat: Nostradamus, nor anyone else, made these statements before September 11th. In an effort to calm fears and promote the truth, here is what Nostradamus actually said: "Five and forty steps the sky will burn Fire approaching the large new city Instantly a great thin flame will leap When someone will want to test the Normans." There is no mention of any year or month. There is no reference to buildings, or twins, or big wars. Also, Nostradamus died in 1566; he wasn't around in 1654. New York is at 41° latitude. Boston, Chicago, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, and Toronto are all closer to 45° latitude than New York. We are all suffering through a very difficult time. Please do not increase people's fears by spreading untrue prophecies and predictions.

On Sat Sep 15 08:55:29 2001 () said:
the best buy by me had a candelight vigil last night for the victims in new york. it was nice. our mall has a donation box by customer service and its nearly half full of ones and fives. some have put in tens and twenties. its really something how a country can pull together in crisis. the thing with the gas prices though, was uncalled for. in some areas here, they reached 3.50 a gallon or more. i'm glad the government addressed that, with everything thats going on. it would almost seem igsanifigant next to everything else.

On Fri Sep 14 23:45:10 2001 Joy (*) said:
No one wants to see war. I know a lot of us are praying it doesn't come down to a war. To many lives lost,& No one, is ever the same again, after a war. But, these terrorist do not understand anything else! Their whole existence is based on years of war, & prophecies! We have already witnessed how, they are ready to die for their belief's! If they are ready to sacrifice their own live's, then you have to know, other lives, mean nothing to them! They want to bring on, what they call, a "Holy War"! They will never stop..Something must be done, So, yes, it is worth it.

On Fri Sep 14 23:40:12 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Now it has a personal face. A face that I know, respect, and love. I mentioned before all this started that the boys and I were going to go goose hunting for Greater Canadas. Going with us was going to be the man that I told about taking me turkey hunting last spring. The same individual who recently gave us 1/2 of a hog. Now you will all know that the name with which I referred to him was an AKA. He was going goose hunting with the boys and I. He called today and could not tell me where he was but that he could not be here to go hunting with us. You see he is a Federal Agent. Now I am concerned for the safety and well being of a very dear friend. I also hope and pray that he is highly succesful at what ever it is that he is working on. The boys and I have been talking about whether or not we should go ahead and go on this hunting trip with everything that is going on. The boys finally approached me last night and said "Dad, when you got out of the hospital nearly 2 years ago the doctors estimated that you had 2-3 years to live. We might not ever have the oportunity for all of us to do this together again and we want the memories of making this trip with you." So I said that we would do it. I know some of you are bound to jump on me for making that decision. But, that is the decision that I have made. I hope all of you are maintaining control with everything that is going on. Good night. Herb (Bear)

On Fri Sep 14 20:41:52 2001 I applaud this (Canadian Friend) said:
America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to A remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technology, and you get radios. You talk about German technology, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technnology, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here in our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking Down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked round. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." Stand proud, America!

On Fri Sep 14 20:32:41 2001 () said:
i'm asking every american. i'm not sure on the spelling, but i thought i saw it that way on the news once. i'm asking everyone if they would indeed give their own life for this. or just let other people die. myself, i would go. i would serve our country as well as i could. and if my life was the cost of freedom, well i guess somebody could write me a nice eulogy. so i ask again of everyone that chats here. "is it worth it to you?" is any of what i said here worth it to you?

On Fri Sep 14 19:13:47 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Freedom is worth ANY sacrifice! And Arrafat's poeple were the ones on the news, hitting the streets in celebration for the deaths of U.S. civilians. So he can take his little blood donation and shove it. He will need it when we blast him off the face of the earth. BTW, is that how you spell Arrafat? It just looks wrong, and were you asking me that question? Obviously I have a strong opinion to what we should do......

On Fri Sep 14 19:03:53 2001 () said:
some ask "is it worth the sacrifice?" is arrafat's words of his alliance with us false? or did he just lie? if what you say is true, then the news has it all wrong about him. its quite a question "is it worth it?" i believe so. others believe so. but there are some that say to try and do this with out blood shed. i think at this point in the game, there is no other way. what do you all think? IS IT WORTH IT?

On Fri Sep 14 18:44:04 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Arrafat is not only NOT with us, he is Palastinian. This war is against terrorism, not just Bin Laden. The Islamic faith doesn't believe what Bin Laden does, the only way this is about religion is the fact that he and others hide behind it in their reasoning for what they do. This war will take years and spill much U S blood, but in the end freedom will prevail and it's safety will be felt for generations to come. But it will take time and it will take a uniform effort from around the world. The good thing from this is we will fight in unity with not only our allies but our one time enemies. To see Russia backing us, of course they have a reason to with Afghanistan, is a great thing. In the end we will see the demise of rogue countries, Bin Laden, Saddam, hopefully Arrafat, although I would rather see peace between Israel and Palastine. We will stand strong hand in hand with others to once again rule this world in peace. Or maybe not? Only time will tell....... Marc

On Fri Sep 14 18:30:53 2001 () said:
its freedom its religion its about who is right and who's not. this man believes hes the chosen one. he feels any deviation from his beliefs is sin in its truest form. no we didn't start this, but we are the ones doing something about it. no it can't continue. and no a verbal warning will not cut the cheese this time. the punishment that bush needs to lay down has to be much more severe and grave than that. and if you believe there is just one, then thats a true misfortune. the man has followers. in many countries more than likely. in fact the only guy in afganistan on our side is arrafat. and with that kind of following, i don't see this ending soon. its not going to be a quick trip and back home again in a week. its going to be a while.

On Fri Sep 14 16:34:07 2001 Joy (WHAT?) said:
First..zero...The statement you made ("this war we've waged") EXCUSE ME......"WE" didn't fly our planes into the twin towers & the pentagon! "WE" didn't kill all of those "innocent people"! "WE" didn't start this..but "WE" darn sure can't let terrorism continue! Because, "NO ONE"..."NO COUNTRY"..is safe from terrorism! What would you suggest the US do..shake their finger at them along with some stern words? This has nothing to do with christianity, or religion! This is about our FREEDOM, and freedom from TERRORIST!

On Fri Sep 14 13:58:18 2001 () said:
yeah we will change our destiny all right. this war we've waged against terrorism will last as long as there is someone in the world that doesn't agree with the views of christianity. or america or both. this war will more than likely be the end of us. if not this ladden charater, it will be somebody else! there are too many religions in this world that don't agree. this guy has started what was inevitable. the war on who is right. i was listening to the service given in new york today. and i listened to some of peoples comments. this person said that they couldn't immagine a god as loving as ours allowing this to happen. look, it doesn't take a pope to tell you that we as humans wern't promised a perfect life. i don't think he "allows" these things to happen, he just puts us here and lets us go about our way. i think that we were an experiment. these tragedies are the variables that are put in to test us. we all seem to turn to our respective faiths in times like this. but is this the only kind of time that you rely heavily on your faith? you think god doesn't see that? now i'm not saying one faith is more superior than the other. there isn't one. a lot of people i know only go as far as admitting that yes god exists and yes someday we will all meet our end and god will then decide our fate. and thats it. i must say i agree. i think that this tragedy will be the begining of the earth's biggest conflict. because it wages deeper than anything we've ever had to deal with.

On Fri Sep 14 13:24:16 2001 Joy (Support!) said:
Jim...I want to tell you, I Turned this person into the Web Police awhile back, I copy and past every hateful thing this person writes and copy and paste it at their site. So...I am hopeful, something will be done!

On Fri Sep 14 13:13:47 2001 Joy (Think About It!) said:
On Nostradamus....I have been hearing this stuff on PalTalk also, for the people who believe this, don't you think the terrorists, Knew also, about Nostradamus, since they were educating theirselves RIGHT HERE..in the USA. Since their plan was to cause "fear & chaos" in our country...what better way then to plan their attack's around some prophecies! Nostradamus also stated, our destinies "are not" written in stone, we have the power to change our destiny!

On Fri Sep 14 12:44:50 2001 () said:
12:27:07, Nostradamus WAS an astute person, no one was denying that. Go back and read the post. Someone is distorting his, (Nostradamus's) words. Get a life!!!

On Fri Sep 14 12:40:11 2001 Faith (same) said:
In regards to donating blood, the other morning I called our local center for donating blood and asked if I could donate, being an insulin taking diabetic. They told me no. I then asked if I could donate platelets, and was told again that I couldn't. I'm wondering what is true and what isn't true?

On Fri Sep 14 12:27:07 2001 () said:
just how the hell do you know that nostradamus is a hoax? a lot of things he's predicted have pretty much came true. do you ever watch the learning, discovery, or history channel? everything i've ever seen on that man leads me to believe he's a true visionary. before you start spouting your wisdom, i want to see some cridentials and proof that he's a hoax before you start trying to tell people he is.

On Fri Sep 14 11:49:41 2001 () said:
God Bless America. Land that I love Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies , To the oceans, white with foam God bless America My home sweet home. God Bless America, Land that I love Stand beside her, And guide her, Through the night With the light from above, From the mountains, To the prairies, To the ocean, White with foam, God bless America, My home sweet home. God bless America, My home sweet home.

On Fri Sep 14 10:47:10 2001 . (.) said:
INFO. ABOUT DONATING BLOOD IF YOU HAVE USED BEEF OR PORK INSULIN YOU MAY BE UNABLE TO DONATE. THIS WAS NEWS TO ME - THOUGHT I SHOULD PASS IT ALONG IN CASE OTHERS WERE UNAWARE. GOD BLESS AMERICA - NOW AND ALWAYS!

On Fri Sep 14 10:41:57 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
Jim, Thanks for the warning! I had gotten the HOAX! MarcB, thanks for the emails. I will get back with you on the one! MarcB, know this, I for one, and I'm sure many, many others on here do not share the sentiments of "IT". My Lord and Saviour is Jewish, and I have nothing but respect for ALL people of the Jewish faith.

On Fri Sep 14 10:39:00 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
Jim, Thanks for the warning! I had gotten the HOAX!

On Fri Sep 14 10:19:12 2001 fara aka Faye (fteague@sugar-rive.net) said:
GOD BLESS AMERICA< MY LAND< MY HOME< I am so proud to be an American. I have been glued to the television set for the past few days and it just breaks my heart to see what has happened . I pray for the families of the missing, dead, rescue workers, the news people and everyone else that has been effected personally. I am afraid for the rescue workers, reporters, hospital staff, the dr.'s and nurses at the scene and the many volenteers that are helping out, for the tole that this is going to take on them after they are back in their homes safe and sound. They are going to need a lot of help and we have to be there for them, as we will be. There isn't much I can do but donate money to the telethon that our local TV station started yesterday morning and they raised over $700,000 as of 10 o'clock last night. God bless all of you! Faye

On Fri Sep 14 09:40:55 2001 Jim (same) said:
I know I'll catch hell from my "buddy" on here for posting this, but the following is a HOAX (Nostradamus)that is going through cyberspace at lightning speed scaring the hell out of SOME people. Another hoax has been making the rounds. Here is the text included in the hundreds of e-mail messages that I've received from people inquiring about authenticity: "In the year of the new century 11 days and nine months, From the sky will come a great King of Terror The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city." "In the city of york there will be a great collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos While the fortress falls the great leader will succumb The third big war will begin when the big city is burning." - NOSTRADAMUS 1654 The first supposed prophecy does contain a few elements from various quatrains written by Nostradamus; however, they were not written together as one prophecy. The second "prophecy" being sent with lightning speed across the Internet is completely bogus, as far as I can tell. Incidentally Nostradamus died in the year 1566. The following are a few genuine quatrains that you might find interesting. For the time being, I am printing only the English translation; over the next few days, I'll include the original French and short explanations on ancient place names. I've not yet reread the Presages or the Epistle but I do hope to get to those very soon. The following are offered without comment -- and without proofreading. Century 1, Quatrain 87 Earth-shaking fire from the center of the Earth. Will cause the towers around the New City to shake: Two great rocks for a long time will make war, And then Arethusa will color a new river red. Century 2, Quatrain 89 One day the two great leaders will become friends, Their great power will be seen to increase: The new land will be at the height of its power, To the bloody one the number reported. Century 4, Quatrain 16 The free city of Liberty made servile, Made an asylum for corrupt ones and dreamers: The King changed, to them not so vehement: From one hundred will become more than a thousand. Century 5 Quatrain 65 Suddenly arrived, the terror will be great, The principal players in the affair are hidden away: And the lady in the hot coals will no longer be in sight, Thus little by little will the great ones will be angered. Century 6, Quatrain 97 At five and forty degrees, the sky will burn, Fire approaches the great new city, Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up, When they want to have verification from the Normans. Century 8, Quatrain 17 Those at ease will suddenly be cast down The world put into trouble by three brothers, The enemies will seize the marine city, Famine, fire, blood, plague, all evils doubled. Century 8, Quatrain 59 Two times put high, two times put low, The East also the West will weaken: Its adversary after several battles, Driven out by sea will fail at the time of need. Century 9, Quatrain 81 The sly King will understand his ambushes, From three fronts the enemies assail, A strange number, tears from the hooded men, The brilliance of the translator will come to fail. Century 10, Quatrain 49 Garden of the world near the new city, In the path of the hollow mountains: It will be seized and plunged into the Vat, Drinking by force the waters poisoned by sulfur. Century 10, Quatrain 74 The year the great seventh number is accomplished, Appearing at the time of the games of slaughter: Not far from the age of the great millennium, When the dead will come out of their graves. Century 10, Quatrain 97 Triremes full of captives of all ages, Times good to bad, the sweet for the bitter: Prey to the Barbarians hasty they will be too soon, Greedy to see the "plume" [feather or of smoke?] wail in the wind.

On Fri Sep 14 09:33:49 2001 Steve (stevew_johnson@hotmail.com) said:
If you want to donate blood or platelets: call the Red Cross at 1-800-GIVE-LIFE or America's Blood Centers at 1-888-BLOOD-88 to schedule an appointment. Also, I got an email today asking people around the country to stop what you are doing at 7 PM local time tonight. Go outside and light a candle or a lantern as a display of hope, courage and pride in America. The terrorists may have struck at our heart, but they have not extinguished the bright flame of freedom we all cherish.

On Fri Sep 14 08:59:09 2001 Sam (raneysam@yahoo.com) said:
I scroll past the fools. It only takes a few STUPID (attack?)words, and then I pass that post. I am having a hard time with my blood sugars, need to re-tune my insulin pump. Stress raises sugar, remember that. We are all going to be under stress, for quite awhile now. As fellow Americans, and diabetics, let us remember..our world has changed. Forever. I found myself "edgy", felt like attacking, no room, privacy invaded by people at the door, phone calls..pump ran dry, rock & roll upstairs, catfights...this all drives me crazy. What works for me are long walks, a smile from a stranger, and meditating under a tree. Peace to you all...Sam

On Fri Sep 14 08:52:01 2001 Steve (stevew_johnson@hotmail.com) said:
If you want to help by donating blood, but are turned down because of medications you are taking, ask the center if you can donate platelets. Some centers are equipped with machines that can filter platelets from whole blood. The blood is then mixed with a saline solution and pumped back into your body. Some machines require that you have needles in both arms, but some places have machines that work using only 1 arm. The process takes between 1 1/2 - 2 hours. There is some discomfort -- the saline solution is cold, so you'll be wrapped in blankets and often the staff will put hand warmers on your hands. This is safe as giving blood - your body begins reproducing platlets immediately and usually within 24 - 48 hours you are back to normal. Platelets are very useful for treating burn victims and one person's donation can help as many as a dozen people. So if you can't give blood, ask about giving platelets. Also, you can donate platelets more often than you can give blood. Just another way to help.

On Fri Sep 14 06:56:08 2001 Jim (jimf_44047@yahoo.com) said:
Good morning everyone. Herb- I share your views entirely. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about "IT", except keep turning "IT" in to the Web Police for harassment. I know I'm not the only one who's done it. These are uncertain, trying times, and it does appear the most of the world has had enough, and IS going to do something about it. Have a good day everyone. Jim

On Fri Sep 14 00:44:32 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
I watched the joy and elation of thousands of rescue workers today when 2 firefighters were extracted from the rubble. I asked my self what caused this out pouring of love and elation. The answer was simple. They are all brothers engaged in a common cause and who have a very high level of love and respect for each other. I had to ask myself if this is true why can we not achieve a similar level of respect on this board. We all have a common cause. The ultimate defeat of the disease diabetes should be our common cause. Yet we have posters who never offer any thing constructive or positive in the war on diabetes. They are at their happiest when they are creating dissention and chaos. I have to ask, are they really diabetics or are they just poor sick souls who delight in tormenting and deviling the poor sickies who have diabetes? Is there any thing we can do to help these poor souls achieve a happier life than they obviously have now? I am just so discouraged about this board and it's future I don't know what to do. Herb (Bear)

On Thu Sep 13 22:51:46 2001 Marc Bernstein (same as before) said:
Haven't you learned anything from my previous words on this chat the night of the horrible event? I thought that the personal attacks would stop. You seem to be the only hateful AP who keeps the fires of hate burning on here!! Israel has been the major supportor of the United States,as well as Canada,in the fight against mindless and inhumane terrorism!!! I feel great compassion for all the thousands of victims of this dreadful and evil attack!!! Many were of different religions,and different nationalities. None of them deserved this horror of a purgitory!!! As Faith and Herb and Jim have all said,the world has changed,and not for the better. The war of words here in the past,like that of between so many miidle eastern Nations(Israel,Egypt,Jordan,etc) have led to this kind of utterly insane and vile attack. Those whose lives were lost by these demented cowards,are heroes,always will be in my mind and heart. There are many people on this chat,as well as thousands of Americans,Canadians,Israelis(many who in the past,have sacrified their lives to fight for their love of Democracy!! The world is now a far different place. We all will feel much less secure,whoever we are,wherever we may go. For GOD'S Sake,Before It is too late,Let's all heed Herb's,Faith's,Jim's and my words of warning-I don't want a war. But unless we have control of this blasted terrorism problem,which is a bloody threat to us all,then we are headed for a time of terror and strife,which will affect all our lives,and we must have peace,between ourselves,and the rest of the world. My faith,as a person of Jewish religion,my support for United States,Israel and Canada,are stronger than ever!! What people like you and those inhumane monsters want to do is to turn each of us against each other!!! DON'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN!!! I am not afraid of signing my own and real name. Marc Bernstein. May The USA Be Victor In this War!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

On Thu Sep 13 22:09:40 2001 () said:
MARC B NOT EVERONE ON HERE HAS GREAT LOVE FOR ISRAEL WE THOUGHT YOU WERE LIVING OFF OF CANADA TAXPAYERS SO GO BACK TO ISRAEL ON YOUR SOAPBOX

On Thu Sep 13 20:25:26 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
While I'm shocked,and morally outraged by the evil,despicable monsters who did this,I as a person of Jewish faith,will be taking a stand:Just purchased my tickets + renewed my membership in my Synagogue. I am PROUD to Stand With The Country That I have always Loved,USA,plus my own Canada,and Israel. I just read on the internet that Bin Laden might be handed over to USA!! MY GOD,I HOPE THAT's true!! I also have been reading and constantly watching TV,that Airports /Airlines will slowly begin restoring select flights. Thank goodness the security will be stronger than ever before!! I pray for the three countries that mean so much to me:USA,(where I have family,which I love so much,mother was born there-almost an adopted country) Israel,and Canada. I hope that Canada tightens up it's security-needs to. May America be strong,survive,not allow a bunch of hateful Murderous Zealots to tear it down!! God Bless America,Israel,And Canada!! If only Israel would get their hands on Bin Laden!! While I pray,I am filled with a will to survive,and hope all terrorists pay the ultimate price!!! Marc Bernstein.

On Thu Sep 13 16:52:21 2001 to mandy (....) said:
the same kind of 'sicko' that terrorizes us every day on here!!!!!!!!!!!

On Thu Sep 13 16:48:29 2001 mandy () said:
What kind of "Sicko" could do such a thing as to take so many innocent lives like that?? I hope he rots in HELL!! My heart goes out to all the of the families, and also to the victims.

On Thu Sep 13 15:58:14 2001 Read Please () said:
TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!!

On Thu Sep 13 14:37:40 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
Jim-Your right! It is the only one who just doesn't get it. Our world has changed, and not for the best, and "it" just keeps on showing "itself" as a fool that he is.

On Thu Sep 13 13:29:55 2001 PAM (0) said:
HELLO EVERYONE, I am so anguished by the inhumanity of the terrorists. It is a inconveivable horror. I have a son and daughter who are police and fire department officers. I feel like I cannot stop watching television (which I rarely watch). I feel as if it would be disloyal to all those who have lost loved ones and those who stand and wait for word of missing family members. All the petty nonsense in our dailly lives are now put aside and we must come out strongly against terrorism and as only Americans can we will unite and do whatever is necessary to show the world that we truly are one nation, under God.

On Thu Sep 13 13:09:04 2001 Jim (same) said:
Faith- You don't have to answer "IT" on my behalf. Maybe we should chalk it up as a lost cause, who will die a miserable death, alone, from some nasty disease, brought on by being so uncaring. They cancelled the NFL for this weekend and I'm glad. I just don't think it would have been proper to PLAY GAMES with so much death and destruction. Jim

On Thu Sep 13 11:59:23 2001 () said:
Faith, Jim's threats are totally discusting...or do you go along with them ?

On Thu Sep 13 10:02:04 2001 () said:
JIM,....IT IS YOUR BUDDY MARC WHO IS APING YOU!!!!!!!!!!

On Thu Sep 13 09:43:58 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
Herb, your last post really touched me. You expressed your feelings so unashameably. My respect for you has only grown more. MarcW, are you still on the pump??? People, as Herb has said, please stop all this nonsence. We as a country are on the brink of another would war, and the way our ap'er is acting is totally disgusting.

On Thu Sep 13 09:21:31 2001 () said:
Jim...if you post your name and address we will be glad to contact a mental health professional in your town, your threats to people here mark you as a person unable tp control himself....we are concerned for your family being a victim of your rage...

On Thu Sep 13 07:47:24 2001 Jim (jimf_44047@yahoo.com) said:
Good morning everyone. Marc- No, I didn't get any emails from you. Our server worked sporadically for a few weeks. I do think it's about time that the World took a united stand against terrorism. If they stick to their guns and really do this the world will be a much better, safer place to live. WAY too many people have died though, and something should have been done before this. 16:57:59- Your insults to me don't bother me in the least. In this time of devastation to our country, I can't figure out for the life of me why you do this. Why don't you get a girlfriend or something? Go in to the service. No, don't do that! We don't need cowards in there! That's ok though, there WILL BE A DAY that you get yours. Have a good day everyone. Jim

On Thu Sep 13 06:05:36 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
I copied this wonderful and most sensitively written article:from:"New York Region:=New York Times".It discusses (in great length) The terrible amount of trauma,that people are experiencing from this horrid,shocking morally outrageous act of evil terror!! It says that in weeks to come,grief counselors is expected to follow,as well as hundreds of specialized bereavement councelors. This is going to be needed,for healing,both emotional,and of the body and the mind. Doctors have warned that most people will experience toxic shock,and feel in a state of fear of the unknown. People-even friends of different religions-Jewish VS:Muslim.Catholic/Baptist VS:Jews,Whites VS:Arabs,This is the type of conflict that these monsters wanted. I strongly reccommend it. Title:"Trauma,Felt Directly Or Not,Takes It's Pcychic Toll". The article written by:Erica Goode. September 13th,20001. It's on the internet. Good luck. It's worth reading. Hope it helps. Thank you. Hope this will resolved in some way,that in comming weeks,months,things could(I hope) begin to return(slowly) to normal? Marc Bernstein. Note:I read or head internet report:Bin Laden under House arrest in Pakistan??? By the Taleban?? By his enemies??? Where? Watch for updates.

On Thu Sep 13 00:30:40 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
PEOPLE - PEOPLE - PEOPLE - C'MON: How can you watch what is going on and still come here and act like this. With thousands dead and thousands putting their lives in harms way in an attempt to rescue a few how can we act this way. How can we be so disrespectful to the dead and the living who are trying to save lives. I am sitting here with tears streaming down my cheeks over what I am reading here. Granted I am already quite emotional over what I have been watching on the TV. Way into the night last night and all day today I have seen so many familiar faces there. Not familiar in the sense that they are friends of mine but familiar in the sense that I have seen them before. The haggard blank stare of fatigue, The firemen sleeping on the sidewalk, the quick shared cups of coffee, and the discouragement and disapointment that comes with the realization that no matter how hard or how long you work that you can not do enough. And the American flags everywhere. On the wall behind my computer is a picture of three of the fellows I was in Mexico City with, plus me, holding a Mexican Flag given to us by the President of Mexico. No matter how hard I try to control myself I just sit in front of the TV with tears running down my cheeks. Please - Please let's control ourselves and respect those that are gone and those that are putting their lives on the line. Herb (Bear)

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