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On Mon Aug 6 23:15:27 2001 Marc Paul Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
I think (and I'm sure all diabetics on the chat would agree) highly important to visit the world famed (and very important heritage museum,in London,Ont) Banting House. Yes,this is the place where insulin was discovered in 1921,by Sir Frederick Banting. He was a brilliant doctor,and fine artist,we as diabetics have a great deal to be thankful to Sir Frederick Banting,his former home,now a heritage museum in London,Ont. Where there burns for 24 hours each day,a special candle in memory of those early diabetics who Banting helped so much. The web site is available care of "Canadian Diabetes Society". (On internet) Worth seeing..withour Dr.Banting,all of us diabetics (no matter whether type 1/or type 2) would not be as well off. If you are in the area of London/Toronto/Windsor/NY ,etc,plan on a visit..The memory of this great doctor must be preserved.

On Mon Aug 6 22:23:23 2001 () said:
I ALMOST MET SUPERMAN A FEW YEARS AGO

On Mon Aug 6 22:13:27 2001 () said:
Is Walkerton water like bad Snapple..???????????

On Mon Aug 6 21:21:06 2001 Marc Bernstein (LonChaneyJr@IrvingThalberg.com) said:
Hi Toad. Our water isn't that bad,though I too drink only bottled water. (I'm worried about Toronto having another Walkerton) (Check Archives Of Toronto newspapers for news about Walkerton's fatal water) Herb,thanks for the timely advice. will do my best. I know who the real friends are on this chat. Off to London,Ont in about 10 days..involved in research there in archives at University of Western Ontario's Music Library. also going to be volunteer @ "Banting diabetic house" (London) I'm hoping the humidity will ease abit. I haven't tested since coming home-guess bit afraid of what the results might be. (I almost met Lon Chaney Jr many years ago,before he died,my father was involved in promotion of one of Chaney Jr's last films)

On Mon Aug 6 20:38:45 2001 Toad () said:
Hi all!! MARC? You're back!! Glad you had a good time... Faith, I'm so sorry for your loss. From here I can't do anything but send my prayers, which I do... Jim!! Go for it! With the business. I wish I lived closer. Our town water is so bad that even my dog won't drink it unless she has to. I usually go to a spring and fill 5gal. containers and then half carry/half drag them into the house each week. Yuck!! Hey? What's the big deal with not posting my addy in an open forum? I don't post it anywhere online. Does that automatically make me a problem? If it really bothers most of you so much, I'm sorry and I won't post here any longer. But I won't be intimidated into putting it out on the web. (The porno doesn't bother me so much. Heck, just misspell an addy doing research and see what weird sites you come up with. Heh..) The very first time I posted here I tried putting one of my addys on and got 5 e-mails the very next day. Only two of those were from legit. posters on here. I'm a firm believer in security. I am really sorry to those who may get upset.

On Mon Aug 6 19:38:52 2001 () said:
and so the soap opera otherwise known as MARC BERNSTEIN returns. And how many times have we been promised he would leave? This guy needs a woman in the worst way. Maybe one of you people with those X rated site e-mails can forward it to him so he has SOMETHING to do.

On Mon Aug 6 17:14:16 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
C'mon () don't be so slow. DH is Darcy Hillyer. She now has a private podium from which to preach her propaganda. It's a shame that as of right this minute she only has 2 members, she and I. Herb (Bear)

On Mon Aug 6 17:09:00 2001 () said:
HERB, GO SMOKE SOME CIGARETTES

On Mon Aug 6 16:42:31 2001 () said:
HEY DH,...I THOUGHT BWD WAS RESERVED THAT SKANK TEXAS AND HER CLAN????

On Mon Aug 6 16:11:39 2001 () said:
When did we start spelling the 6th day of the week with an "e"?

On Mon Aug 6 16:00:37 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
The best boss I ever had told me one time that I could be a lot more effective as a manager if I would practice periodic cogitative introspective pauses. I had no idea in this world what he was talking about and said so. His response was, "Stop, take a deep breath, go for a walk, smoke a cigarette, get a cup of coffee, just do what ever it takes for you to calm down and think a little before you react." I think his advice applies to most of us on this site. If we fail to react to the AP'ers in anger they will not get near as much fun out of baiting us. Marc, I am not being critical of you. But, the reason they enjoy taunting you so much is that your reaction is predictable. They know that they can get your goat. Just don't let 'em. Discuss any subject you want to on here always remembering that diabetes is #1. But, what is there in our lives that does not affect our diabetes. This means that we are free to discuss our lives here. Herb (Bear)

On Mon Aug 6 14:55:02 2001 () said:
planet of the apes could be fun,,,kind of like being in South Chicago on a Saterday night...

On Mon Aug 6 14:42:29 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
sorry about the dual postings. no,nothing I have said is meant to be a threat. Just weary of all the nasty personal attacks..trying to ignore,but can't deal with it constantly. Marc

On Mon Aug 6 14:36:31 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
0,sorry that I had offended you. There isn't really any need for being abusive and using name-calling is there? Let me just set the record straight:I haven't made up any of these illnesses. I thank you for your suggestions,I have taken Imodium,which helps. sorry that you can't behave towards me in a civil manner...

On Mon Aug 6 14:31:44 2001 D.H. (New Club!) said:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/bwd3 Welcome to Brothers, Broads, and Babies With Diabetes{or BWD3}. Here we tell it like it is. This site WILL BE CONTROVERSIAL. No topic is forbidden, but diabetes is the main focus. No selling or advertising. You won't be deleted for arguing a point, but please be as respectful as possible. You also will not be forced to give your e-mail address.

On Mon Aug 6 14:26:34 2001 Marc () said:
I AM NOT MAKING UP ANYTHING!! Everything I have spoken about is true. I don't need "a shrink' thanks. I have been up all night,coughing from blasted asthma. I realize that I'm wrong about this,but I thought I had the right to speak about anything on this chat(incl diabetes) as I understand it(I guess I was wrong) shouting and rude abusive remarks are uncalled for-personal attacks too should not be used. I guess I was too idealistic. Marc Bernstein. I'm sorry that you doubt me. I am a diabetic,I do have asthma.

On Mon Aug 6 14:01:50 2001 () said:
what happens when we mess the human race up with cloning and the apes take over?maybe the planet of the apes is not far feched after all..

On Mon Aug 6 13:52:52 2001 () said:
Marc B..is this the jewish history chat ? please explain better

On Mon Aug 6 13:51:15 2001 () said:
GOOD ON CLONING SO WE CAN GET THE ORGANS WE NEED TO GET RID OF DIABETES...SO TOO BAD FOR YOU RINGKISSERS

On Mon Aug 6 13:42:25 2001 ??????????? (?????????) said:
A team of reproductive specialists is expected to announce plans Tuesday to clone up to 200 human beings. The announcement will be made at a cloning conference held by the National Academy of Sciences in Washington, Dr. Panos Zavos told CNN Monday. Zavos is a retired professor and head of a Lexington-based private corporation that markets infertility products and technologies. He said his team is working with 200 couples who are infertile and the aim of the "attempt" is to help them have a baby. "We will reveal on Tuesday exactly how we are going to go about it," he said. MORE STORIES House votes to ban human cloning Italian doctor defends human cloning EXTRA INFORMATION In-Depth: The stem cell debate Animation: The cloning process Zavos said Dr. Severino Antinori, the Italian doctor who helped a 62-year-old woman become pregnant in 1994, would also be involved in the project. Antinori is director of Rome's International Associated Research Institute. No human has been cloned yet. The most successful attempts at cloning have been with sheep, cattle and mice. Cloning presents risks But cloning sheep has so far been an inexact science, and fertility experts warn that human cloning presents a high risk of miscarriage, stillbirth or producing a disabled child. "This procedure is just not safe," said University of Pennsylvania bioethicist Art Caplan. Of the animals cloned so far, some had shown abnormal growth rates, others have had abnormalities, and some have unexpectedly died, he said. "Dr. Zavos and his group have been kind of the high-flying, showbiz operators of cloning. They keep saying they're going to do this. I have to say, if you looked at the animal work that's been done, and the people who really know this procedure of cloning -- that is, veterinarians who try it in animals -- the procedure is just not safe," he said. "I'm really worried that what they're going to do here is make a dead or deformed baby, not a healthy one." While Zavos and Antinori have not disclosed what methods they will use, it is believed the technique they will try is similar to the technique that produced Dolly, the world's first cloned sheep. Carbon copy The technique would involve taking DNA from a cell and implanting it into an egg that would then be placed in the mother's uterus. The resulting child would be a carbon copy of the person from whom the DNA was extracted. Dr. Ian Wilmut, who created Dolly, said it took 277 tries to get it right in a sheep. Wilmut does not support human cloning. Zavos said his team believes they have the science to successfully clone an embryo and implant it in each woman in the project. Though cloning a human being is not yet against the law in the United States, Zavos has said the group does not plan to do its work in the United States. He has not said where the experiments will take place

On Mon Aug 6 13:25:07 2001 () said:
I WAS ONLY TRYING TO HELP... YOU WHINING NEUROTIC PSYCHOSOMATIC MENTALCASE CRYBABY!!!!!!! YOU REALLY SHOULD RETAIN THE SERVICES OF A GOOD SHRINK AND YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT YOU DONT REALLY NEED YOUR MEDICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA TO MAKE UP ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY WRONG WITH YOU FOR ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!

On Mon Aug 6 13:10:04 2001 ... (...) said:
And what....that's a THREAT?? How ever will we get along without your whining drivel???

On Mon Aug 6 13:05:23 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
I see I will have to quit posting(again)

On Mon Aug 6 12:53:45 2001 () said:
MARC BERNSTEIN......MIDOL OR PAMPRIN WORKS WELL FOR THOSE CRAMPS

On Mon Aug 6 12:50:12 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Herb,here's some further info(thank you for your interest) re:Cantors. My grandfather(and his 5 brothers-all were fine Cantors all over North America/South America. My grandfather's voice was that of a very high and powerful tenor. It is common for Cantors to suffer haemorrages;this happened often to my Zaida(Yiddish word for grandfather) My grandfather suffered a stroke in 1957,until he died in 1968,he had only half speech,but still was able to sing. (no,none of my grandfather's family were diabetics,but all had high blood pressure,plus heart disease. (diabetes came from my great-grandfather,a rabbi,and my mother's father) I guess he didn't take insulin,I don't recall if he took oral diabetic pills. I am not certain when he became a diabetic,but all his life he was very underweight,and once tried to to gain weight by drinking a milkshake with egg yolk. Marc B.

On Mon Aug 6 12:29:54 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Hi. Faith,I'm sorry about the death of your friend. Good luck with your biopsies. Herb,I'm most pleased to give you info about a Cantor's life/job/duties. Please e-mail me. Oh,about the Spinach soup-it was handed down by my grandmother,(on tape) Feeling rather weak these days,alot of cramps,(I guess from my bornchitus infection) I have coughed so much,my throat is pretty raw now. Marc Bernstein. (Jim,best wishe+ good luck on your new business)

On Mon Aug 6 11:07:14 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Good morning every body. Marc: I hope you didn't mind my asking about the Cantor. In Oklahoma our exposure to Jewish traditions and customs is very limited. For years I though kosher food was a dill pickle. I am a museum freak. Growing up in Denver as a boy I haunted the Museum of Natural History and the Historical Museum. At my age now I love anything historical. Jim: Congrats on your business. We started a busines part time and eventually went full time with it. Sold it when we moved to McAlester and started running the boys camp. The situation with the commercial drivers license is a bummer. I am hearing some rumors that there may be some lightening up on this. Sam: Yep that's where they come from. Have you moved often. Your calling yourself the wanderer might indicate so. If so, you have our sympathy. In 43 years of marriage we haved lived in 14 houses. There is an old Okie saying that "3 moves equals a complete burn out." If that is true it is a wonder that we have anything at all. Faith: The blood sugar report sounds good. I'm beginning to have low problems again. Friday morning and yesterday morning, both times at 5:30. I am beginning to wonder if the time has some thing to do with it. Oh well we'll get it figured out. Herb (Bear)

On Mon Aug 6 09:43:11 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
I'm sorry about forgetting to put my name on the post I made yesterday at 15:10:13. I guess my friends death had me rattled. Herb, thanks for your kind words. He was a minister, and had just retired at the end of last year. Isn't that the way it happens a lot of the times. BG's are doing ok though. Still haven't gotten the results of my biopsies. Should here soon! Still not worried though! Take care all!

On Mon Aug 6 09:05:48 2001 Sam (raneysam@yahoo.com) said:
..so THAT'S where those X-rated ads came from. In my Yahoo box. I have most blocked...you can do that, using words the ads may contain. A bother. You can't write back, either. To tell them to lay off! Oh, well..part of somebody's game. Sugar was 350 this a.m...I am using a "loaner" pump, and it's different from mine, that died. Have a good week, all..I am moving, a lot to do. regards, Sam, the Wanderer.

On Mon Aug 6 08:23:31 2001 Jim (jimf_44047@yahoo.com) said:
Good morning everyone. Yesterday I launched my own business called Carnegie Hauling (catchy name huh?). Kind of scary. Hauling potable water with my own truck. How is this related to diabetes? I think that this is why my sugars have been running high. I've been so anxious/hyper, worrying about all the details, that I think the stress had kept them elevated. Everything went off perfect with my first few customers. There is a HUGE market in this around here. My competition runs 4 trucks 7 days a week. Lucrative business. Wish me luck, I need it. One thing that I don't really think is fair though, is that if I ever have to take insulin, they will take my Commercial Driver's License away. I guess I can understand why, but let's say that in 3 years I quit my day job and make this my only means of income. If I was to have to go on insulin I would either have to close down or hire a driver. I guess that is enough motivation (besides the obvious) to maintain strict control. GORDO- Thank you very much for the email. It helped me a great deal. I apprectate it. Connie- You're welcome. Marc W- Exhibition football is better that NO football! Jim

On Mon Aug 6 05:54:00 2001 () said:
zionist

On Mon Aug 6 04:59:44 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Herb,you are correct about a Cantor's job. He does sing chants during a synagogue service. Esp important during the Jewish New Year. There is usually a vibrato to the voice. Most Cantors start young;but continue singing till at least 70.. Faith,Happy Birthday! Marc B.

On Mon Aug 6 04:15:48 2001 () said:
SNAPPLE

On Mon Aug 6 03:35:40 2001 Marc B. (same as before) said:
Sorry for the long posting. Saw a couple of really interesting museums in Kingston:"Marine Museum Of Great Lakes","Sir John A.Macdonald Museum(Canada's first prime minister) Beautiful heritage museum built in 1840. He and his wife lived there 1848-1849. Kingston's waterfront is particularly of interest to me. Will be taking day trip(to see London's famous "Banting House Heritage Museum") in a few weeks. Marc Bernstein.(oh by the way,Banting was an inventor,discovered insulin 1920. (hope I'm correct)

On Mon Aug 6 03:27:40 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Hi everyone! Steve,thanks for the e-card;just got back from holiday(in Kingston Ontario) last night..had really great time. spent it with relatives(my cousin+his family,who drove up from Cherry Hill Nj to Toronto+ then drove to Kingston..the weather was so humid;ragweed allergy time! had bad asthma,which turned into infection-bronchitus(sp) sugars had been high 'cause of the asthma,taking biaxin. got soaked in the rain one evening,on way to supper with my cousin(meeting him at Chez Piggy) Bambi:I had been using puffers Ventolin/Fluvent,but my doctor switched me to Advair 250 Diskus. How did I manage to get soaked,well as I was leaving my hotel,(a short walk) a massive downpour started;got soaked,ducked into nearby sports clothes store,bought new sportshirt(too late to get back to hotel in time) the rain that day was incredible. I guess as result of combo of air conditioning cold and allergies. But,on the mend. (didn't test recently) My sister is doing ok,seems to be the lesser skin type. Still we're all keeping our fingers crossed. I like Kingston alot. Lovely town. Not sure how long I'll be on Biaxin:stomach problems usually result. I do tend to sweat alot in hot weather,also when I eat spicy foods. recall there is a diabetic term for it. Herb,a Cantor is a tenor with a very high and specialized voice. Usually very lyrical singing,also quite intense. Sounds something (to my ear) like Caruso's) Faith,Toad,thanks for the good wishes. got a 50 per cent discount the train was late returning from Kingston. I really don't like the humid weather too much. though the ragweed season usually makes things worse for me. Anyone out there with ragweed allergies? Marc B.

On Sun Aug 5 19:12:19 2001 Connie (cmart74@aol.com) said:
Hi All! Happy Sunday ! I've been away a few days. My hubby took a few days off work and took me to Monterey for 2 days. It was so beautiful there. Some fog, but not cold either. We went to the Aquarium and spent the entire day there. It was so cool! We went Antiqueing too. Lots of walking. Not so good on the b/s tho' 'cause we ate so much. Not too terrible, just portion size. Well I figure I gotta live it up once in a while. I think i haven't adjusted to the glucophage yet either. I think it is more sensitive to what I eat than the Micronase was. IE: I had 1/4 cup of tuna on an english muffin, small handful of chips and 1 cookie for lunch. b/s was 222! O.K. so it wouldn't have been so high before on the other meds, but I see I need to tweek things abit by using `1 piece of muffin not 2, and skipping the chips, and/or the cookie for a piece of fruit. Am having spaghetti tonite with garlic bread and salad for the family. That means a huge salad for me, with no bread and 1 cup of sphaghetti. I'll see how it goes. Jim: Re: Aug. 1st post, I wasn't at all offended by the website offering. Thanks for sharing it. I was upset by that AP'er and shouldn't have been. It's not worth the time. Well you all have a good evening. Keep up the faith! Connie

On Sun Aug 5 18:25:44 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
TO 15:10:13: So sorry to hear about your friend. It's always tough to lose some one you dearly love and respect. And it seems even tougher when you have lost them but they are still here, only partially here. Herb (Bear)

On Sun Aug 5 18:14:00 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
TO (): What a coincidence. I have never received any porno stuff in my e-mail until this very day. The same day that you mention that as a reason for not putting your e-mail addy on here. HHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!! Herb (Bear)

On Sun Aug 5 17:42:50 2001 () said:
A lot of us do not use name and address because one on the people on here collects and sells them as verified names to a telemarketer....some others list your name on porno sites and you get all sorts of sexual mail....

On Sun Aug 5 16:32:56 2001 sabrina (sabrina_and_bob@yahoo.com) said:
i always use my name. and email address.

On Sun Aug 5 15:10:13 2001 () said:
23:56:17 - those are pretty good. Didn't those come from the current Readers Digest? 02:28:20 - What smut? Lost another great man I looked up to on Friday! He had a massive heart attack and his heart had stopped at one time for 15 mins. Of course it damaged his brain. Hope you all have had a good weekend! See you later!

On Sun Aug 5 13:28:21 2001 () said:
AP = Anonymous Poster

On Sun Aug 5 03:34:26 2001 () said:
An AP is a person that posts here but does not wish to list their name/ or/ e mail address...

On Sun Aug 5 02:35:52 2001 sabrina (sabrina_and_bob@yahoo.com) said:
whats an ap?

On Sun Aug 5 02:32:25 2001 () said:
CB we know you do not like women, but knock this stuff off

On Sun Aug 5 02:28:20 2001 () said:
???and now we are the smut chat ?????

On Sat Aug 4 23:56:17 2001 smile time (I needasmile@once) said:
Doctor Stories A man comes into the ER and yells "My wife's going to have her baby in the cab!" I grabbed my stuff, rushed out to the cab, lifted the lady's dress, and began to take off her underwear. Suddenly I noticed that there are several cabs, and I was in the wrong one. At the beginning of my shift I placed a stethoscope on an elderly and slightly deaf female patient's anterior chest wall. "Big breaths," I instructed. "Yeth, but now they droop a bit," remorsed the patient. One day I had to be the bearer of bad news when I told a wife that her husband had died of a massive myocardial infarct. Not more that five minutes later, I heard her reporting to the rest of the family that he had died of a "massive internal fart," I was performing a complete physical, including the visual acuity test. I placed the patient twenty feet from the chart and began, "Cover your right eye with your hand." He read the 20/20 line perfectly. "Now your left." Again, a flawless read. "Now both," I requested.There was silence. He couldn't even read the large E on the top line. I turned and discovered that he had done exactly what I had asked; he was standing there with both his eyes covered. I was laughing too hard to finish the exam. During a patient's two-week follow-up appointment with his cardiologist, he informed his doctor that he was having trouble with one of his medications. "Which one?", asked the doctor."The patch. The nurse told me to put on a new one every six hours and now I'm running out of places to put it!" The doctor had him quickly undress and discovered what he hoped he wouldn't see.... Yes, the man had over fifty patches on his body! Now the instructions include removal of the old patch before applying a new one. While acquainting myself with a new elderly patient, I asked, "How long have you been bedridden?" After a look of complete confusion she answered, "Why, not for about twenty years-when my husband was alive." I was caring for a woman from Kentucky and asked, "So how's your breakfast this morning?" "It's very good, except for the Kentucky Jelly. I can't seem to get used to the taste," the patient replied. I then asked to see the jelly and the woman produced a foil packet labeled "KY Jelly."

On Sat Aug 4 21:32:59 2001 . (..) said:
Herb Beware of the Great Deceiver

On Sat Aug 4 17:43:48 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
TO (): As usual you are way off base. You assume that he e-mailed me when the truth is that I e-mailed him and asked him if he knew that he was a major topic of discussion on this board. I for the live of me cannot understand how you can get so upset about some else that you think is an AP'er when you are one yourself. Thank you for being so civil and courteous in your posting. Herb (Bear)

On Sat Aug 4 16:58:14 2001 () said:
SHUT UP HERB FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!!!!!!!EVERY ONE KNOWS THAT JOHN V IS AN AP'ER.READ YOUR POST FROM THURSDAY. IF HE E-MAILED YOU ABOUT WHAT YOU POSTED,DONT YOU THINK THAT IT MEANS HE DOES IN FACT COME AROUND HERE AND KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? HE IS A FRIGGIN LYING AP!!!!!!On Thu Aug 2 13:10:29 2001 Herb (hjs38@swbell.net) said: (): Aren't you attacking John and calling him names without using your name. Why is it OK for you and wrong for him??? On top of that I think you are wrong about it being John. I have talked with him recently via e-mail and he had no idea what was or was not going on at this site. Herb (Bear)

On Sat Aug 4 16:45:52 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
SABRINA: Don't let the AP's get to you. If they, he, she, it, find a spot they think they can get under your skin it will be dug at until you get frustrated enough to go some where else and we need all the good people on here that we can get. Hey every body I got an e-mail yesterday indicating that when I said that even if John was the AP'er that I was indicating that I thought that he might be. Let me set the record straight. I don't believe it, never have. Now you have a right to disagree with me but please do so civily. Herb (Bear)

On Sat Aug 4 11:50:00 2001 () said:
I think I saw a dyke on here.

On Sat Aug 4 11:37:47 2001 sabrina (sabrina_and_bob@yahoo.com) said:
who's a witch?

On Sat Aug 4 08:20:32 2001 () said:
23:46:59 you..must be a diabetic Warlock. Only a Warlock can recognize a Witch. So..what are YOU doing on here? Get with the agenda, and talk about your diabetes...

On Sat Aug 4 07:14:45 2001 C.M. () said:
Herb, you must have misunderstood. I am not leaving, I just said I won't take the time to get involved in the drama here. I have my reasons for thinking who is who but in hindsight that makes me no different than them. So your right, who cares if it is or isn't him and if someone thinks I am someone else. Diabetes is the subject and I will keep that in mind. Peace, Charlie.

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