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On Thu Jun 21 23:56:11 2001 Marc Bernstein () said:
I wish and hope that this board will be shut down!! To the hateful coward:"O"-You are the most miserable,poor excuse for a human being I have ever seen!! Not once have you shown me any compassion!! I tried to share my thoughts about how diabetes affects my life. I tried to speak about which/what things drive my blood sugars up high. If a viper like you can feel free to post your mean-spirited hostile Crap,then-the hell with this board! I came on here asking for compassion and support,and friendship,all I as a diabetic have received is sick and warped attacks!! Yes,I'm venting my anger. Because there isn't any justice on this board for me. It was futile for me to post again!! I QUIT!@!!! Marc Bernstein.
On Thu Jun 21 23:03:12 2001 () said:
Marc B, SHUT UP FREAK.
On Thu Jun 21 21:12:09 2001 Marc Bernstein () said:
To:The nameless "Lurker-O":I wish you would just leave me alone. BTW,I have the same right to post here as you do:"O". My blood sugar is improving. 4.2. I just don't want to have sugars be up+ down. If I can get it under control and be able to stay there,then I'll be accomplishing my diabetes /doctor's expectations. BTW,how is your glucose readings?
On Thu Jun 21 20:46:58 2001 () said:
Marc B, please go away now.
On Thu Jun 21 20:36:58 2001 Marc Bernstein () said:
CB:I thought beets were high in sugar. Oh,I posted before(As "Former reader") You know,I came on here in good faith,but the sick posters who will never leave their real names just got to me. So,I gave the board a rest. I am just recovering from an infection;(raised blood sugars-real high-like 27.4!) I'm taking two powerful anti-biotics,which along with my being more careful than I used to be(it happened when I was on vacation) now my average (14 day(11) 30 day:(12.3) last time I tested my reading was 5.6. I welcome and need support,but not personal and hostile attacks from nameless and really bitter posters who are cowards,because they won't sign their real names! That is what drives me crazy. It also only helps to raise my bs. Oh,BTW,my condolences to Gordon on his loss. Marc Bernstein.
On Thu Jun 21 20:15:42 2001 CB () said:
More warnings. Overcooked veggies with heated margarine. Nutritional value us minimal. Heated margarine is dangerous because of transfatty acids. Filtered juices, little more than water and fructose. Veggoes that don't need cooking...tomatoesm kale lettuce, cucumbers, carrots, beets (yes! beets!), parsely, spinach. bean sprouts, onions. Mix 'em and put them in a bowl with flaxseed oil, lemon juice, and goat milk feta. Hungry just thinking about it! I will get thrashed for this, but felt like posting it.
On Thu Jun 21 20:13:12 2001 o (o) said:
former...jOhn
On Thu Jun 21 19:55:10 2001 () said:
I guess your not familiar with the term "former"? How can you be a "former" reader and still be here posting? That's because you never left Marc Bernstein.
On Thu Jun 21 19:46:37 2001 A former reader on the chat () said:
I agree with "Concerned reader". The reason that Marc Bernstein left the chat,it is quite obvious:too many insulting,personal attacks by "O". This isn't support. That's all.
On Thu Jun 21 17:51:22 2001 () said:
HERBIE LAYING THE STRAIGHT SKINNEY ON CB ??? WHAT WOULD THE SOUTHERN BAPTISTS SAY ABOUT YOU DOING THAT PLEASE EXPLAIN MORE
On Thu Jun 21 16:03:36 2001 () said:
NO...THAT WOULD BE CB.......HEHE
On Thu Jun 21 15:22:37 2001 () said:
HEY CONCERNED....ARE YOU SOME KIND OF COMMIE PINKO LOVER...OR JUST A GREASER....
On Thu Jun 21 15:17:14 2001 () said:
To Concerned Reader: Those are nice thoughts and good quotes but pertain to your country and this is www. which represents World Wide Web not US of A. Readers would have to view this as a joke and waste of time unless they are entertained by the bizarre quality of what is written.
On Thu Jun 21 15:06:41 2001 () said:
Concerned Reader = Marc B. Recognize the rambling from mommys boy
On Thu Jun 21 15:04:47 2001 () said:
Hey 14:56:32...BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....YOUR E-MAIL IS XXX????? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US????????????HMMMMMM? BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
On Thu Jun 21 14:56:32 2001 Concerned Reader! (xxx) said:
I watched a report the other night on TV about, the increasing violence in our society. Whole crowds of people fighting at sports games. Road rage to shootings in our schools! My point...I have been reading this board since finding out I was type 2 three years ago. I cannot believe how long the feud has gone on here! Its like the,Hatfield & McCoy feud, which by the way, started over a "pig"! Who every O is...I dare say,is a very bitter & unhappy person with way to much time on his/her hands! I know my letter will not change anything. I have been reading over the "years" the people who have tried to talk to this person(s) & the attacks continue. If others here would just see how silly these attacks really are. In the scope of your life,what this person(s) has to say means "nothing!" Please stop letting this person(s) think his/her words have power over you! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid. " - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855) "His ignorance is encyclopedic" - Abba Eban (1915-) "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. " - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato (427-347 B.C.) "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821) "I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters." (Should now add "computers" to this quote!) - Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959) "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." - Frank Zappa "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. " - Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. " - Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
On Thu Jun 21 14:52:42 2001 CB () said:
Straight skinny? Herb, never heard that one before! Hehe
On Thu Jun 21 14:25:48 2001 Toad () said:
Hi all! It's cloudy today but I'm hoping it will rain so I don't have to water the plants. :+) The new brace works great! It's the first time in months that I was able to walk the mile without fearing falling into the lake. My foot was starting to get numb towards the end, tho. I probably shouldn't have tried the entire mile the first time out in so long, but I did. I'll cut back and start a routine again to build the legs back up. The neighbor invited us to swim in their pool last night, too. It was heaven!!!... MAN guys! What was in those jelly beans you are talking about? Is it on the market or a special blend? Sounds fun...LOL...Herb, thanks for letting us know that Gordo has lots of family around him. I'm glad. Family usually helps in such times...Faith, I truely hope your oral surgery goes well. I have to have someone else drive when I just go for a check up! I hate the dentist. (chicken little here!) Does the novicane (sp) bother the BS or is it my nervousness? Just wondering...Oh, yeah. Susanne? "Hi to you, too"
On Thu Jun 21 13:45:29 2001 () said:
I HAD A BAD LOW ONCE WHEN I WAS SKINNY
On Thu Jun 21 13:33:08 2001 () said:
HERBIE,....SKINNY???? IS THAT A FAT JOKE????I MEAN REALLY!!!!
On Thu Jun 21 13:31:28 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
BRENDA: CB is laying the straight skinny on you. Adjusting your insulin levels can be OK but should be done with the dr's. approval. Herb (Bear)
On Thu Jun 21 13:07:48 2001 Herb (Bear) and Jodi (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Jodi and I were fortunate enough to attend the service for Gordon (Gordo) Miller's wife Lorene yesterday morning. We carried all of the messages to Gordon that many of you conveyed to us. We had never had the privilege of meeting Lorene. Her service was beautiful. It was not a sad mournful service filled with sorrow and regrets it was a celebration of life. A life that was obviously a life filled with service to her family and others. Gordon is going to miss her tremendously. We told him that when ever we come to Tulsa we will call him and meet him for coffee or something. They have a large family. I'm sure that they will do every thing they can to help Gordon. Herb (Bear) and Jodi
On Thu Jun 21 11:49:45 2001 () said:
To *****...yes, diabetics are a bunch of "sicko's"...but this board is where we vent about that. If we were well, we wouldn't write here. What is YOUR problem besides anger???
On Thu Jun 21 11:48:49 2001 no understanding () said:
they should string up that bit*& in texas that drowned her 5 kids in the tub.what the hell is wrong with this world???i support vigilanty justice!!!
On Thu Jun 21 11:05:43 2001 () said:
NOT SNAGGLETOOTHED???? NEVER SEEN A BUCKTOOTH WITCH WHO STEALS CANDY FROM LITTLE KIDS BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Thu Jun 21 09:50:30 2001 Faith (same) said:
Marc & Jim, very funny!!! NOT! LOL Boy, this oral surgery knocked my bgs for a loop! From a 60 to a 303. Am on a sliding scale to keep tighter control. I have a feeling I may be on a roller coaster today. All the shots the dentist gave me yesterday had about worn off by the time I got home. Remember, I have to drive 58 miles. My husband had to go and get the pain pills, (Vicodin) and after taking two at 5:30 and pressing an ice cold rag on my mouth, by 6:00pm, I was feeling a lot better. Got to drink a chocolate shake, but watched the bg's very closely. I can't believe I will have to go through this again two more times. But, I want to hang on to 'all' my teeth for a long time. (Sorry (), contrary to some of your assertions, I'm not a snaggle tooth!) LOL
On Thu Jun 21 09:29:55 2001 Marc (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Jim... they must make us do the opposite of what we normally do, because I always want to swear and go to a bar!....Marc
On Thu Jun 21 07:56:20 2001 Jim (jimfultz@alltel.net) said:
Good morning everyone. Sam- Thanks for the clarification. I guess I was thinking like Marc (now that's scary) on the insulin issue and that's why it wasn't 100% clear to me. CB- I don't have an Endo. My doctor is a GP. He is well educated. Thanks for the reply though. Marc- You wanted to read the Bible after the j-beans? You must have gotten the top of the bag, because after eating some of mine last night, I had this urge to swear and go to the bar. Gordo- Hope you're doing ok. We're thinking of you. Jim
On Thu Jun 21 05:29:41 2001 susanne (susanne@christensen.ac) said:
Hi
On Thu Jun 21 03:09:11 2001 CB () said:
Brenda....Is your spouse on a sliding scale with multiple injections? If so, providing he KNOWS how to adjust, he MIGHT be ok. The key is blood glucose control. He needs to test 2 hours following a meal to se where he is. It is, of course, an individual thing, and he needs to talk to the doctor about it. U have never been able to eat the same each day since schedule and activity vary so much. I have had to adjust my sliding scale depending on glucose level. At any rate, the doctor NEEDS to know.
On Thu Jun 21 01:31:57 2001 *********_________************ (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) said:
This board drives me crazy. I have been reading since early April. You are a bunch of sickos. One is leaving/returning; whiney people who would rather complain than act; one who gets mad when someone states the truth about him and one who believes vitamins/exercise are a cure-all for everyone. Then there is the self-righteous who profess to have religion while they antagonize. I think the only one of you who has it all together is () who at least tells it like it is. Get a life or at least enjoy what you have left of this one.
On Wed Jun 20 23:50:54 2001 CB () said:
To Jim and the anonymous poster. Most physicians have VERY little nutritional training. Some do opt for further training, which is fine, I am not thrashing the medical community!!!!!!!! Same old, same old. Again, most physicians do NOT have extensive training in nutrition. Alpha betic, I have been told, is a good product, Not very potent. My concern is with absorbtion. Ideally, vitamins, minerals and enzymes should be gotten from RAW veggies or those lightly steamed. Heat destroys enzymes, which help digestion. I use Men's Blend because my nutritional needs are higher than most, expecially in the area of antioxidants. I used to take 4 Centrums/day. Jim, if your endo is knowledgable in nutrition, great! By all means he should be heard. But when will THIS end? Will someone have the integrity to check the label? AAAARRRCCCCCHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
On Wed Jun 20 23:47:48 2001 Brenda (thunder_runner@hotmail.com) said:
My spouse has type 2 diabetes and plays with his insulin intake without benefit of his doctors approval
On Wed Jun 20 23:41:11 2001 Reader-2 (NA) said:
make a blood donation, you must: be between the ages of 17-70 (save for first-time donors who must be under 60) be in general good health, and weigh at least 110 pounds (49.8kg.) have eaten within four hours prior to donating not have an iron deficiency (will test at clinic) bring one piece of photo I.D. or signature identification. You cannot donate blood if you have any of the following: diabetes on insulin hepatitis or high risk of AIDS exposure most cancers blood diseases or blood pressure problems heart problems. Timing is also of great importance. Here are suggested waiting times following an activity or ailment. Pregnancy - six months after delivery Dental visit - 72 hours If you have been in a country where malaria is a risk - six months after return If you have had ear or body piercing - 12 months If suffering from a cold, flu or sore throat - when recovered. Refusing a blood donation from someone who has diabetes and is on insulin is for the donor's benefit. Such a donation could interrupt your balance or glucose control. In addition, there would be concern about having to treat a low blood sugar reaction, something which could occur on site or, more problematically, on the way home. Those who control their diabetes through diet, exercise or oral diabetes pills are able to donate under most circumstances. On the day you donate, you will be asked if you have kept to your regular diet and exercise pattern. As noted previously, blood pressure and heart problems are restrictions on donating. Many people who have type 2 diabetes (non-insulin dependent) have such problems, and would therefore be kept from donating. If you have no risk factors to prevent you from donating, I recommend having something to eat and drink prior to making the donation. Snacks are often provided on site, either before donating, or after. It is also wise to check on your blood glucose levels, note any changes, and act accordingly. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed Jun 20 22:58:05 2001 Shelley m. strause (lanfeardark5@aol.com) said:
I have type 2 diabetes . i was wondering if any one can give me any helpful hints on controll and dealing with it
On Wed Jun 20 17:41:56 2001 Sam () said:
...also...too much insulin in the bloodstream..is called "hyper-insulin-emia"...(hyphens) May do damage to kidneys. I went to a lot of lectures at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester Mn..seminars every year for awhile. People walking in, blind, on crutches, in wheelchairs, toes gone. Feet, legs. I stood up when it was question time, from the experts..it was at the end of the D.C.C.T. testing...asked if I was in excellent control, as a type 1, could I avoid this damage? They shook their heads, didn't know. Scary.
On Wed Jun 20 17:35:56 2001 () said:
It's a cousin to EJAMACATION!!!!
On Wed Jun 20 17:34:16 2001 Sam () said:
Marc..yes. He is. Type 2. Your Dad is insulin resistant...has to take insulin to supplement. He, like other type 2's probably has large amounts of insulin circulating in his bloodstream..it just cannot get in. A type 2 is never a 1. Sometimes fat fills the receptors. Type One's never make any insulin after the "honeymoon" phase, when the rest of the beta cells are being killed. My Mom took more insulin than I..was rather round, she was a type 2...I am a thin woman, never overweight, not prone to type 2 diabetes. However, I heard a that a type 1 can get type 2 also, if they get fat!! (over 50-ish) And be both. Go figure.
On Wed Jun 20 16:52:53 2001 () said:
whats egnant ??
On Wed Jun 20 16:27:48 2001 () said:
FAITH,.....YOU PUT THE E IN EGNANT
On Wed Jun 20 16:23:07 2001 () said:
OK PAM DON'T HIT YOUR ASS WITH THE DOOR......GOOD BYE
On Wed Jun 20 16:10:00 2001 () said:
I THINK I SAW A WITCH ON HERE
On Wed Jun 20 15:56:46 2001 Faith (same) said:
I think we can also donate our lenses! No blood passes through them. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Bambi, I was surprised about the blood. Have been told by the doctors we couldn't. Just got back from the dentist. Had some periodontal (sp) work done. Not feeling very good. He really loaded me up with the lidocaine and long lasting mariocaine (sp?) Don't know what all this will do to the bg's levels. Sure am feeling queasy!! Shucks Marc, you found me out!!! LOL I wish that really would work!!! Sorry, couldn't help slipping that in! Toad, your welcome. But if you ever get to the point where you need insulin, or did you say you were on it, don't discount the pump. I know it isn't for everyone, but we did talk Marc into getting on it. Boy, was he ever a hard sell!! LOL
On Wed Jun 20 15:04:04 2001 Bambi (Email is still out of order) said:
Red Cross takes diabetic blood. I just did it a month or so ago.
On Wed Jun 20 15:02:48 2001 () said:
Make up your mind, is it brainles or brainless?
On Wed Jun 20 14:32:01 2001 () said:
IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE,......BUT YOU IDIOTS JUST KEEP ANSWERING...THATS IGNORING????????????Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....HOW ABOUT BRAINLES BRAINLESS BRAINLESS!!!!!!!
On Wed Jun 20 13:26:28 2001 Toad () said:
Thanks guys..:+) It's so nice to read REAL posts in here again.... Marc W. as to the donations? I still give my share every 6 to 8 months. They simply ask me what meds I'm taking and the dose. I never thought about it really, I've donated blood since college days (way back there when they paid poor starving college students $5.00 to give.) and when I told them I was diabetic they only asked if I'd eaten within the past couple of hours. Could it be that they filter the blood or something? I'm always called when the van comes to town because I'm type O. Now you've got me really wondering!... Thanks for the vitamin info Jim and CB! I'll check it out. (althought honestly, CB, I don't think I want to put anything that says "Men's Blend" in my mouth that comes from a bottle. Nothing personal, ya know... Just kidding.).... Herb and Faith, thanks. You've helped me to relax a little. As you can tell, I'm a 'newbieD' only diagnosed 7 months ago and luckily at the very first signs(by accident to boot!) With absolutely no one else in my family tree as far back as Europe and then some, having any problem with sugar it is a totally new experiance. I was surprised to find that for a des. that has been recognized as long as ours has, most of the info and help is self generated. Which I kinda like really, it's fun to go to the Dr's office to enlighten 'her' for a change. It is a shame that we can't charge for consulting fees? Haha!... Faith? My ex taught me how to Ignore, Ignore, Ignore...:+) Thanks all, have a great day!!! Sun's out here, I got a new knee brace and am on my way to the park to try it out.
On Wed Jun 20 12:58:53 2001 () said:
NFL.DIABETICSTHATWHINEANDBETONASUPPORTSITE.COM PUHLEEEEEAAASSEE!!!!!!!!!!!!AND NOW GAME SHOWS??????????PATHETIC!!!!
On Wed Jun 20 12:03:56 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Pam... good one.Alessia.. No, we can't. Actually I am 90 percent sure of that. I know we can't give blood, I think organs we can't either. Sam... I too get confused about this. So say someone like my father, who originally was dxed at age 29, was on meds for a few years and now for the last 20 something years is on insulin. I had always considered him type 1 for being dependant on insulin, he then is actually type 2? JIM...FOOTBALL!!!!! He I think the goodies Faith sent are good, except after eating the jelly beans I had this urge to read the bible...AH MAN she did put something in them! Love ya Fathie....Marc
On Wed Jun 20 11:42:30 2001 Pam (bldgcontr@aol.com) said:
As a regular visitor to this site and infrequent contributor I just wanted to add my condolences to gordo. The loss of ones life partner must be one of the most difficult experiences to go thru. My thoughts and prayers are with you Gordo. To the rest of you, Ruth, Misty, Mark, Herb, Faith, et al. Thank you for your continued excellent postings. To the jerk poster, YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK. GOOD BYE
On Wed Jun 20 10:59:30 2001 Alessia () said:
Can a diabetic be an organ doner? I often think about this subject but never decided to ask someone except my sister!!!
On Wed Jun 20 09:29:08 2001 Sam (raneysam@yahoo.com) said:
Jim...type 1's don't make insulin. None. Type 2's become insulin resistant, and sometimes have to take more insulin down the road that a one, but are never classified as type 1's. Mostly those are children. Some adults (like me) got exposed to something toxic, maybe as kids. The chemicals attach themselves to the beta cells which produce insulin in the Islet of Langerhans. Your own body attacks your beta cells, thinking they are bad.
On Wed Jun 20 09:02:19 2001 () said:
KNOW-IT-ALL IS BACK!!!!!NOW IT WILL BE FOOTBALL ALL THE TIME ON HERE!!!!
On Wed Jun 20 08:11:47 2001 Jim (same) said:
Toad- One other thing. There are more type II's on here than you may realize. Any yes, we are REAL diabetics. I'd like to think we're all in this together regardless which type we have. Many of us type II's may have to take injections down the road anyway. I think we'll still be classified as II if that happens, but I'm not sure. Does anyone know the answer to that? I've always been curious. Jim
On Wed Jun 20 07:44:43 2001 Jim (jimfultz@alltel.net) said:
Good morning everyone. Toad- My doctor (who knows nothing by the way, depending on who you talk to) told me to take "Alpha-Betic". It's a multi-vitamin formulated specifically for diabetics. I get mine at Wal-Mart. You'll just have to make up your own mind. You have the doctors on one hand telling you you should take them, and the health freaks on the other telling you that they're worthless. I'll take my doctor's advice. Herb- When my bs gets real low I get extremely sleepy, and when it skyrockets, the only way I can tell without testing is that my feet start killing me due to the Neuropathy. Marc- I've been really sick for a week but it had nothing to do with the stuff Faith sent me as I haven't had any of it yet. I'm starting to feel better but maybe you could try your winnings first and let me know how you feel afterwards (just kidding Faith). Traing camp for football only weeks away! Have a good day everyone. Jim
On Wed Jun 20 04:53:41 2001 () said:
AND ANOTHER SHOT AT MEDICAL SERVICES BY OR OWN DEATH DIET PERSON...CB................
On Wed Jun 20 04:25:58 2001 CB () said:
Toad and Herb: The best vitamin I have found is Men's Blend by SuperNutrition. Ot is great for the immune system . Doctors di NOT know nutrition. They have very little training in it at Med School. In general, the people at the health food stores are RIGHT about commercial vites.
On Tue Jun 19 19:14:53 2001 Faith (same) said:
Toad, I don't know how long you have been "D", but I've been for nearly 33 years. And I have found the longer I am one, the less I feel the lows coming on. Just the other morning it was 45 and I didn't feel bad at all. It is just one of the things that happen to us speacial ones. That is why it is so important to keep a good check on our levels all day long. You never know when one will come on. Welcome back to the site, BTW! In spite of things, we still see some good support here! Just hang in there and Ignore, Ignore, Ignore!!
On Tue Jun 19 19:12:51 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
TOAD: One of the beautiful things about this wonderful disease that we share is that it never allows us to get bored. Just think how boring it could be if we all had exactly the same symptoms and reacted to meds in exactly the same ways. Also think how totally boring it could become if we would react the same way day after day. "NORMALLY" I react to a low by my eyes not focusing when I reach the 60's and I start sweating like a hog in the sunshine when I reach the 50's. But this morning at breakfast I had none of these symptoms and my BS measured 42, go figure. When mine gets high I get sleepy "NORMALLY". Yet kids without diabetes get hyperactive when they get to much sugar????? Vitamins, if enough people respond to your question you will find 2 basic theories on vitamins. Most doctors will tell you to take any good all purpose vitamin. The health food afficianados will tell you that these do absolutely nothing for you, that their contents are all exited from your body in your urine. I really don't know. If I can't trust my doctor to prescribe a vitamin for me how can I trust him to prescribe all of my meds for me???? I hope that I have been of some help to you. Herb (Bear)
On Tue Jun 19 18:59:24 2001 A Visitor () said:
To () Please do everyone a favor and get off this site! You do nothing to help anyone of us. Why you come to this site is beyond me. Go pick on some other chat site. We are so tired of you and your heartless comments.
On Tue Jun 19 18:35:33 2001 Toad () said:
Hi all. It's been quite a while since I have visited here. Got fed up with the bickering and lack of support. But, I thought I'd give it another try. It sounds like there are some really friendly people stopping in here now and then, and that's what a support forum is for. I got the feeling that those of us not on injections or the pump (I still don't totally understand what that is) aren't "real" diabetics, and shouldn't post here. It's so gratifying to read that that experiance isn't the norm here any longer.:+) I was so sorry to hear about Gordo's loss. My prayers go out to him. It's really nice to see Jim, Faith, Misty, Marc and the rest of the regulars names still on here. I've wondered how you all are doing and how the summer is treating you. I do have a question? Is there a multi vitamin that is best for diabetics? Over the counter please. (I'm one of the poor diabetics. LOL) I miss taking them and want to start again. And, this may be a real dumb question, but, so many people have told me that they always get some kinda of sign when their BS is getting too low. I have had tests of 52BS and don't feel any different. I get dizzy when it gets up around 200. Am I just missing something? I hope everyone has a lovely summer! I'm so glad to find actual supportive posts here again. Friends, Toad
On Tue Jun 19 16:22:56 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
I went for my test today and Herb and Jim were right. To check out my circulation they put gel on different parts of legs and feet and a picture showed up on the screen of how much bllod flow there was. Then they put blood pressure cuffs on my entire legs and pumped them up very evry tight. Next they put litt;e probes on each toe. No pain involved! Now wait and see what the doctor has to say........Faith, I sure hope you feel better soon, keep sipping warm tea, that some times helps. .....Herb, please give my regards to Gordon. Take care all, Love & Luck, Misty
On Tue Jun 19 16:18:42 2001 () said:
HERBIE THIS IS ONE OF MANY...NUFF SAID...TOLD YOU SO.....On Mon Apr 23 20:06:06 2001 JOHN V. (Type1) (A/B.) said: Marc W,....yes looking at you , you look fine. You must have posted while I was typing. My doc. says the stuff is addictive, but I agree if it hurts....stop it. Three postings in one day. What is the world coming to?????? JOHN V.
On Tue Jun 19 15:05:05 2001 () said:
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.IF I SAY HOW IT DRIVES ME CRAZY OVER PEOPLE FEELING SORRY FOR THEM SELFS,DEATHS NOT INCLUDED,THEN I AM A BAD PERSON??I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PLACE TO VENT??OH WELL!!!
On Tue Jun 19 14:47:06 2001 Faith (same) said:
Herb - you have nothing to be sorry for! This is what this site is for. To express what drives you crazy, and if all the things you have wrong because of "D" isn't enough to drive one crazy, I don't know what is. The one(s)who are giving you a hard time are not worth the worry. You continue to vent when ever you want. We all have our problems because of this disease, and we all have blessings to count, if we bother to. I wish I could be there tomorrow for Gordo too. But thank you for stepping in for those of us who care for him. Please give him my best. He is in my prayers. I hope the pressure of all this is not causing havoc with his "D". Again Herb, thanks for keeping us all informed about Gordo and his pain. I haven't been on sooner today because I've been sick. I'm not on my pity pot either. Just stating a fact. There is something wrong with my throat. Just staying in bed as much as I can. Hope to be back to work tomorrow.
On Tue Jun 19 13:23:40 2001 () said:
can't we all just get back to diabetes?
On Tue Jun 19 13:18:56 2001 () said:
YES STEVE YOU ARE RIGHT TO TRY AND CONTROL YOUR TEMPER ON HERE....
On Tue Jun 19 13:10:52 2001 () said:
YOUR RIGHT HERB.MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT IT ALONE INSTEAD OF YOU AND FAITH CAUSING ALL THIS.HAPPY NOW??????
On Tue Jun 19 12:45:32 2001 () said:
Southern Baptists...art't those the ones that want to start a religious war with the Catholics....??
On Tue Jun 19 10:57:28 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
I am extremely sorry that I seem to be at the center of all of this controversy, especially right now. I apologize to anyone who thinks that I seek pity. I have much to be extremely thankful for at this time. Ninety % of my drugs are paid for by insurance. The same insurance that is buying a $10,000 electric wheel chair for me at 90%. I couldn't afford the drugs 10% ($450 a month) if it were not for the excellent retirement I have through the Southern Baptist Convention. With my convention retirement plus Jodi's and my social security we make slightly more than my salary when I worked full time. We have 5 great kids who love us and show that love all the time. We have a beautiful, big, old house that the boys are working their heads off trying to get fixed up for us. We have a church and a church family that we love and loves us. And most of all I have a wife who loves me despite all my faults and for whom I feel a love that cannot be described in words. You see I have much to feel fortunate for and do not wish pity even when I vent regarding a negative happening in my life. But right now I can not get Marc's words out of my mind. What if Gordo came here for support and found us fighting and squabbling like we are and especially what we are squabbling over?????? Herb (Bear)
On Tue Jun 19 10:37:06 2001 Steve (()) said:
To the poster at 8:38 and 9:16 today -- take some time to consider the following quote: "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." Someone shared that with me after I blew my top at another person. It made me stop and think about my life, my reactions and how I treat others -- especially fellow diabetics.
On Tue Jun 19 10:20:15 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
First, my thoughts and prayers to Gordon. We are here for you if and when you need us. Maybe we can not go to the service on Wednesday but we all could spend a moment of silence at 11am (est). I know I will. This is a part of life, and thats when we need our friends and love ones to be by our side. No one can take the pain away for Gordon, we want to celebrate the fact that his wife enriched many lives when she was here and will be remembered in great ways. I hope we all take time every day and show the love to our families when we can. I hope everyone has a good day, Love & Luck, Misty
On Tue Jun 19 10:19:10 2001 NOW SHUT UP!!!! () said:
Main Entry: tripe Pronunciation: 'trIp Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French Date: 14th century 1 : stomach tissue of a ruminant and especially of the ox used as food 2 : something poor, worthless, or offensive
On Tue Jun 19 09:29:38 2001 () said:
whats tripe ?
On Tue Jun 19 09:16:35 2001 () said:
THAT IS MY LIFE. NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT. HAVE TO MOVE ON. WAS TALKING TO HERB NOT GORDON. HERB IS THE ONE IN HERE WANTING THE PITY. YOU ARE A ARSE MARC
On Tue Jun 19 09:01:19 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
8:38... that post proves what an absolute low life you are. Your contribution to this world is less then the flea on my dogs ass. I hope Gordon doesn't decide to come in here to get support and read this insanse crap. His loss is tremendous, and your attitude is, hey, that's life, get over it? That may be your life, but not the rest of this board.....
On Tue Jun 19 08:42:14 2001 () said:
Whats tripe ????
On Tue Jun 19 08:38:00 2001 () said:
LISTEN...WE ARE ALL DYING...WE HAVE ALL HAD PROBLEMS AND DEATHS IN THE FAMILY...IT IS PART OF LIFE.....NO SENSE IN SITTING AROUND HAVING A PITY PARTY OVER IT......SOME OF US CANT EVEN BUY OUR MEDICINE EVERY MONTH BUT YOU DONT HEAR US CRYING ABOUT IT....FACT OF LIFE PAL,,,,GET OVER IT.....
On Tue Jun 19 08:30:06 2001 Steve (stevew_johnson@hotmail.com) said:
Herb: I am impressed by the courage you display in spite of the adversity in your life. I also admire your tenacity in putting up with the tripe that the anonmyous (i.e., COWARD) poster spews on here. Thanks for sharing about your life here.
On Tue Jun 19 07:59:47 2001 Sam (raneysam@yahoo.com) said:
Herb (Bear) ..thanks! I need your wisdom. You have been through a lot, and thanks for sharing. It makes my problems seem less. Gordo...so sorry about your Wife. Thoughts to you. sam
On Tue Jun 19 00:04:12 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Thank you for pointing out my poor posting. If you examine my postings you will note that I often leave out words and some times complete phrases. As slow as my mind works my fingers are even slower and my mind compensates for it by just having my fingers leave something out so they can catch up. I'm sorry. Herb (Bear)

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