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On Mon Jun 18 23:59:11 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
What I meant to say was that I doubted if any one else lived close enough to go to the services of those who shared our love and respect for Gordon but that we were going in an expression of that love and respect. Herb (Bear)

On Mon Jun 18 23:44:06 2001 () said:
Herb your post about Gordon and your doubt about people sharing ...makes no sence...you should read your posts before you send them....

On Mon Jun 18 20:50:38 2001 Herb (Bear) and Jodi (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Jodi and I received an E-mail from Gordon with regards to his wife Lorene's service. Since he lives in a small town just outside Tulsa and we doubt that any body else who admires and respects Gordon for his knowledge of nutrition and his being willing to share it on several boards here on the net we are going to attend her service Wednesday morning representing all of those on the net who love and respect "Gordo". Herb (Bear) and Jodi

On Mon Jun 18 18:10:57 2001 () said:
Herb, we feel pity for you and hope you enjoy the time you have left on here.

On Mon Jun 18 17:58:59 2001 Herb (Bear) (Hjs38@swbell.net) said:
TO MR () ALL CAPS: John V lives on Vancouver island just off the coast from Vancover and John a/b lived Florida as a college student until very recently when he moved up the east coast and went into the real estate business. As far as your other comments go I will respond but this well be the last time. As for as my condition not being as bad as other lets review: I have DM which has produced the following. I have lost my right leg due to Diabetic Neurothapy and poor circulation and am very close to losing the left one. I am nearly blind due to Diabetic Retinopathy. I have 20/600 sight in my right eye and 20/400 in my left eye. With my last laser surgery the dr. thought that this would be correctible to 20/60 and 20/40 but this has not worked out. I wear special glasses to be able to see the computer screen and another pair (quad focals) for everything else. I have less than 40% of my heart function left. This coupled with my arthritis limits the use of my arms and shoulders to where I can only roll the wheelchair for very short distances which has caused the insurance company to approve an electric wheelchair for me that I am supposed to receive this week. When we go to the doctors and have to park in a parking garage, go down in an elevator and through extensive underground tunnels before coming up in the dr. bldg. it is all that Jodi can do to push me that distance, she is 63 and has arthritis. The doctors told me 2 yrs. ago last Novembe that I had 2 years, 3 at the absolute maximum live. We have lost a grand son to a very rare bone marrow disease that is highly hereditary and now we have 2 daughters diagnosed with it. Despite all of this I never said that I was worse off than any body else. I just used the board to share my triumphs and my defeats, and to vent. I don't know who or what gives you the right to choose what some one else can or can not do on this board. But, I will say to you that I have just gone back in the posts and made a list of all the people that have the courage to post with out having to hide behind a mask of anonymity. These are the only people whose opinions carry any weight with me. If just one of them comes forward and asks me to stop posting I will be moe than glad to do so immediately. Outside of this happening take a hike buster because you are so insignificant that I can't even hear you. Herb (Bear)

On Mon Jun 18 16:52:25 2001 () said:
HERB SAID::::I know both of them have conversed with them on other boards. They even lived at opposite corners of this country until very recently. YOU KNOW THEM BOTH??? JOHN V LIVES IN CANADA AND NOT YOUR COUNTRY. BACK OFF UNTIL YOU GET EJAMACATED

On Mon Jun 18 16:38:55 2001 EMAD () said:
ANY REPLY MR.()???

On Mon Jun 18 16:36:15 2001 EMAD () said:
TO MR.() EITHER YOU ARE CRAZY OR YOUR MOTHER WAS PREGNANT IN DONKEY SOME YEARS AGO (HOW OLD ARE YOUY. YOU HAVE EMPTY MIND SUFFERING FROM MENTAL INLLESS. STOP ALL THESE DIRTY , BE A MAN, OR YOU ARE UNISEX? THANX

On Mon Jun 18 16:10:14 2001 () said:
ANY ONE WHO BELIEVES JOHN V AND JOHN A/B ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT FOOLS

On Mon Jun 18 14:55:43 2001 () said:
OF COURSE FAITH IS A REAL EVIL SNAGTOOTH WITCH !! DON'T YOU KNOW NUTIN//!!!

On Mon Jun 18 14:38:16 2001 () said:
And also to you Faith...I do not belive you are a real witch but you seem to get alot of enjoyment from the bickering that you freely add to...

On Mon Jun 18 14:35:07 2001 () said:
Herb...I also agree with all cap-s..we all are getting sick or your self serving soap opera posts on here...you are not the only one with problems, and you are a lot better off than most...so try to THINK before you put your mouth in gear..

On Mon Jun 18 14:13:55 2001 () said:
way to go faith....keep the crap stirred!!!!!

On Mon Jun 18 14:09:31 2001 Faith (same) said:
Herb - way to go!!!

On Mon Jun 18 13:48:53 2001 A Reader () said:
Herb..It was not Johns or anyone elses place to put that on the internet. If it was shared in e-mail maybe that is where it belonged, or Gordo would have posted it himself. No matter how I feel about ALL CAPS I happen to agree with this one, so go call other people names.

On Mon Jun 18 13:38:00 2001 () said:
SHUT UP ALLREADY HERB

On Mon Jun 18 13:29:42 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
TO () ALL CAPS: I once swore that you were incapable of getting me mad or making me upset. But you've finally gone to far. You have got to be the most insensitive, ignorant, stupid, idiotic, moronic, self centered clod that has ever lived. First of all John V and John a/b are 2 different Johns. I know both of them have conversed with them on other boards. They even lived at opposite corners of this country until very recently. But you vendetta against John V FLAMED John a/b. You shot the messenger. All he was doing was letting some of us who might not have known from any other source that Gordo had lost his wife. And in a situation that needed compassion and tenderness you lashed out in your typical ranting and raving style. I feel sorry for you friend you are a sick and despicable individual. Herb (Bear)

On Mon Jun 18 10:59:59 2001 () said:
As some of us are going blind, check out www.hotbraille.com is a free service to learn and send braille letters and other stuff for visually impaired letters

On Mon Jun 18 10:50:24 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Good morning! We had a ruff week end with the Storm that passed through our town. We even made the CNN news. Many people got flooded out and a lagre apartment building fell down from fire and water. People ;ost theur lives and still some missing. My sister and her family had to stay over night because of so many roads closing and the turnpike was shut down. I feel so lucky that we are all ok. Over 8 inches of wateer in a few hours. The bs went a little crazy from the stress bbut all is fine now. Must go, love and luck, Misty

On Mon Jun 18 09:08:01 2001 () said:
On Wed May 23 11:50:53 2001 JOHN V (()) said: Now Mr. Marc has assumed the role of little dictator telling me which board I can watch and what I can say. He has reverted to the old Marc from before the closing of L net. What bothers me most are his statements which are entirely false. Does that amaze me? Not really, but I was labouring under the mistaken impression that he had grown up some. It is no wonder that Buddies is getting many people coming over from this idiot board to be able to have normal discussions and support in regard to diabetes. I have had it with the EDUCATION and research board. It is indeed quite an education one can get on there, and how!!!!! JOHN. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------TOLD YOU THE DAM BABY WOULD BE BACK. WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A NICKEL FOR EVERY TIME HE HAS DONE THIS.....I THINK I SAW A UGLY SNAGGLE TOOTHED WITCH ON HERE WHO STEALS CANDY FROM LITTLE KIDS....

On Mon Jun 18 09:02:34 2001 Faith (same) said:
John- thanks for letting us know about Gordo's wife! That was very thoughtful of you. Gordo, my thoughts and prayers are with you. Marc- the high was because of eating the night before things I knew I shouldn't have. Well, too much of it anyway. The low, who knows!? Everything has evened out again. I've never had chocolate soup (w/nuts) before, please let me know how it tastes. LOL

On Sun Jun 17 16:21:20 2001 () said:
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. GORDON SHARED THIS IN PRIVATE E-MAIL???? THAN WHY ARE YOU BLABBING IT OVER THE INTERNET??????? WE ALL LIKE GORDON AND FEEL FOR HIM BUT YOU ARE A JOKE....DAM FOOL ANY WAY.....

On Sun Jun 17 13:50:26 2001 JOHN. (a/b) said:
Gordon lost his wife. johnv9v A close friend let me know he lost his wife. I received a e-mail this morning whereby Gordon told me that he lost his wife on June 15 after being together for 27 years. For those who remember him from the old Liberty Net Dia board this news will be shocking. Gordon is a specialist in nutrition a really educated man in that field. My feelings go out to him as I expressed, in my return e-mail to him. JOHN

On Sun Jun 17 09:16:01 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Marc, There is no time frame, just if you see one. Please do not go to any trouble. Thanks , Misty

On Sat Jun 16 23:59:15 2001 () said:
go ahead...how can we help ?

On Sat Jun 16 23:52:16 2001 () said:
want to chat with a diabetic now

On Sat Jun 16 15:32:15 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Misty.. thank you, I forgot all about that, so it was unexpected. I have been looking for that thing for you and can't seem to find it, I thought it would be simple. Do you have a time frame? I will keep looking for it, let me know how soon though. Hi Faithie, my chocolate soup isn't here yet, probably Monday. Your big switch in sugars, did you switch sites? Sorry, haven't been around much and not read up so I don't know what happened to get you so high. But I know with me that sometimes happens when I stop absorbing. Well hopefully you settle down. I will catch up on this place in a couple of days. CYA all later, take care....Marc

On Sat Jun 16 11:42:49 2001 Faith (same) said:
Marc & Jim - have the care packages come yet?! What a difference a day makes, yesterday am 501, today 46! Go figure!

On Sat Jun 16 11:23:58 2001 Janice (na) said:
What happened to Gordon ? is he still a member here ?

On Sat Jun 16 10:42:24 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Marc, this ones for you. LA LAKERS RULE! Enjoy! Love & Luck, Misty

On Sat Jun 16 10:28:11 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Hi Sandie, thank you. I am glad things with Joshua have gone back to normal. I know the next few weeks have you on the go so please let us know how you are doing. Thoughts and prayers, Love & Luck, Misty

On Sat Jun 16 00:06:12 2001 Sandie (Simom527@Aol.com) said:
Well Just wanted to check in and see how everyone was doing, and Give and up date on Joshua..As most of you know he was DKA last friday, and we are happy to report that he is doing well and back to being a typical 14 yr old Young Man. Hope all of you Fathers out there have a wonderful Father's Day. A special thanks to Misty for being a great support...Y'all Take care. Sandie

On Fri Jun 15 22:53:34 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Herb, be careful with your low bs and all the extra activies with the kids coming. I know you all will have fun. .....Faith, I have had the bs that high with the meds I am on, it has not happened to be being on the pump, yet. I hope everyone has a Happy Fathers Day, will check in on Sunday night, Love and Luck, Misty

On Fri Jun 15 16:47:30 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
MIKE: Although I ran a boys camp for a number of years I am not familiar with the camps in your part of country. I would suggest that you contact your nearest chapter of the American Diabetes Association and I'm sure that they will be glad to furnish you with the info that you need. Herb

On Fri Jun 15 15:56:25 2001 mike () said:
I have a friend who's daughter has diabetes and is at a camp in Virginia. Do you know which one would be for intesive help that would keep her there for 2 months?

On Fri Jun 15 14:39:05 2001 Fraud News... (None) said:
The Federal Trade Commission and the Food and Drug Administration are cracking down on companies marketing fraudulent health products over the Internet, The New York Times reported. Leading the effort, the trade commission told six companies to stop making claims that their products treat serious illnesses such as cancer, diabetes or Alzheimer's disease or "face fines and other penalties," according to the article. Health authorities said the companies' herbs, supplements or electrical devices that "supposedly give viruses a fatal stun" were "ineffective against any ailment" and could make certain illnesses worse, according to the article. Both government agencies said fraud charges will be filed against several other companies during the "crackdown on unscrupulous marketers who use the Internet to prey on the sickest and most vulnerable customers," the newspaper reported. (The New York Times, 6-15)

On Fri Jun 15 11:36:15 2001 () said:
THATS MY POINT!!! PLEASE EXPLAIN MORE FAITH

On Fri Jun 15 11:33:49 2001 () (()) said:
11:27:03 - Nothing, so what's your point? What does the post you made have to do w/D?

On Fri Jun 15 11:27:03 2001 () said:
WHAT DOES CLEANING THE HOUSE HAVE TO DO WITH DIABETES?????PLEASE EXPLAIN

On Fri Jun 15 11:10:13 2001 Herb (Bear) and Jodi (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
FAITHIE: It would scare me to death if mine ever got that high. Althugh I am sure that there were periods when I did not take this disease seiously and was not monitoring that mine was in all liklihood that high or higher. Mine has probably been over 300 2-3 times in the last 2 years. I get upset if something goes wrong and it goes over 200. (Twice in the last 2 weeks) The tiredness you are experiencing is the way I always feel when my BS gets high. I don't understand why it effects us like that and sugar makes kids hyperactive, go figure. 3 of our 5 kids are coming in tonight for Father's Day. I've got to help Jodi with her getting ready. Don't misunderstand she does not keep a dirty house but I don't understand why if it is OK for us to live in why does it all have to cleaned and polished because the kids are coming???? Herb (Bear) and Jodi

On Fri Jun 15 10:59:04 2001 () said:
hello??? well did you drive everyone away mr. marc?????

On Fri Jun 15 09:49:28 2001 PASTOR WILL (REPENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) said:
MAY THE GLORY OF GOD BE KNOWN TO ALL HIS CHILDREN,,,,AMEN

On Fri Jun 15 08:51:56 2001 Faith (same) said:
Herb, those numbers would make me very happy. My doctor told me to bolus in (pump) if BG was over 150. The low number would be heaven to me. Of course, we are all different. I "really" had a hight this morning, 501! I know exactly why too. We were invited over to a couple's house from our church, and she is a wonderful cook. I just ate too much! I should have stopped at one serving. Right now, I'm so tired I can hardly keep my eyes open. Oh well, live and learn. Ya'll take care!

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