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On Sun May 13 23:57:14 2001 Marc Paul Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com)
said:
Gordon,this is a fine and sensitive post! Bravo! E-mail me:very happy
to discuss (on e-mail) my own problems with control:re:diabetes. I'm still(in
many ways) a " new diabetic(11 years) I do try to do as well as I can. Dealing
with weaknesses with food,and what/when to eat,always has been a struggle for
me. I know I don't always manage "D" too well. Taken me almost 5-7 years before
I really began to take being a diabetic with greater understanding. I still have
many frustrations about diabetes. On many levels,this requires alot of work on
my part. Being part of this chat and the many supportive people(Marc
W,Gordon,Faith,Fara,etc-thanks.) Marc Paul Bernstein.
On Sun May 13 23:27:02 2001 gordo (gordom@earthlink.net) said:
CB, Marc, and
others: As I see it, we are all saying basically the same thing in different
ways or magnetudes. We are basically saying that understanding the nutrients
ingested into the diabetic body and understanding how exercise affects our BG
level and also our insulin needs or uses, whether from the pancreas,
supplementation of pancreatic insulin production from various oral medications,
supplemented insulin from either one of more needles each day or continual basal
pump injections plus boluses for nutritional intake, the closer we are able to
regulate our BG balance, the less complications we may experience from our
diabetes. Several years ago on this board, we were all concerned with attempting
to get everybody aware of these disastrous complications. Yes, there were many
varied approaches to these problems but our efforts were to help diabetics
improve their lives through better understanding and better control. We also
stressed being a better patient so that our doctors could better administer to
our needs. It seems that we no longer are interested in helping diabetics to
better understand the disease that they have to live with or die with. We
discourage the people that want help from coming here for it. We are much more
concerned about nit-picking other caring diabetic's posts, or getting mad at an
insurance company for not furnishing every item needed to counteract our bad
habits. We do not look to the insurance company's to pay for all of the crap
that we ingest which is commonly called food, that sends our BG levels and/or
our waistlines soaring out of control. We say that we just can't live without
that piece of cake, that bread or pasta with all of the yummy tasting butter,
sauces or gravies that make us want more. Lets try to get back to the basics of
helping diabetics become more aware of what diabetes is and what we each have to
do to improve out lifestyle while co-existing with diabetes. There are still a
lot of newbees out there that are desperately looking for help that each of us
can offer positive input if we can find out more about their individual problem.
Everybody here (the nit-pickers including me), will agree that the knowledge of
balanced nutrition and an exercise program is beneficial to all diabetics. This
varies from diabetic to diabetic. Not even the most astute endocrinologist can
adequately and accurately have sufficient facts available for the best diabetic
management program for each patient, each visit. We are not the best at keeping
records of what they need to make their judgement calls (sometimes calles
guesses). Each of us has something positive to offer that can be of major
benefit to all of us, especially the newbees that are out of control and very
confused. Can't we try to get back to helping diabetics again? Gordo
On Sun May 13 22:28:57 2001 () said:
Accupril is used mostly for mental
illness
On Sun May 13 19:03:18 2001 Faye aka fara (Fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
I
hope every Mother had a great Mother's Day as I did.
On Sun May 13 16:26:22 2001 CB () said:
Hi Marc! I must protest here! I have
never used the terms "fat cow" to describe anyone here, A detractor used it.
Second, onprepared? I hardly think so. I keep my AIG in the 5-6 range. Hardly
poor control. Third, I have never said that wheatgrass is a cureall or organic
foodstuffs are a cureall either for that matter! My point has been that
nutrients can be used to handle certain problems. Not all, but some. Fourth, I
do have things wrong with me. I have had recurring cellulitis in my left foot,
which calls for careful foot care. I take accupril daily (an ace inhibitor).
BTW, my post listed things I don't have trouble with, at least not yet. BTW, I
have two cousin s with D, one is blind; the other has his cousin's kidney. I
have always been serious about control. That is why I steer clear of fast food,
fried foods, concentrated sugars, and saturated fats I think hooking up for
lunch might be a good idea! CB
On Sun May 13 12:58:01 2001 Pavon () said:
Rashid, You say your blood sugars
are always high! Because of your diet. All I can say to you is, at the age you
are right now, you need to try your best to control your blood glucose levels,
bye what ever means you can. If you do not do this right now, then later on you
are going to have many complications. Due to your lack of control. It is very
important to watch what we eat, and get enough exercise. It is also very
important to do the monitoring of blood glucose daily. It is not normal at all
to have very high glucoses. Please do not waste time, get busy and try to keep
your sugars within the range that they should be.
On Sun May 13 12:33:42 2001 () said:
DEAR TOAD, STOP WHINING AND TRY SOME
VIAGRA....MIGHT NOT NEED FOSTER KIDS FOR YOUR EGO....
On Sun May 13 12:29:22 2001 rashid (bukhari21_pk@yahoo.com) said:
i'm 26 and
have diabetes at age of 24. my level is always too high b'coz i'm careless about
my diet. level shoot up a few times uptill 550 but i'm absolutely ok. there r no
effects. some doctors say that may b your blood chemistry is like that. pl
comment. thanx
On Sun May 13 12:16:53 2001 Toad () said:
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY to all the
Mother's out there!!! Although I have no children of my own, I've fostered 15
over the years and know how you feel. I only come in here once or twice a week
anymore. I got tired of all the fighting going on. I can get that from the West
Wing clubs I belong to. Not to mention my own Mother. Being 45 I can think of a
lot of reasons for the aches and pains, bad temper days, growing need for new
glasses and other "things" that some people seem to only want to blame on having
diabetis. I call it "living life". My BS is up and down, like most people's, 214
is the highest though and I know it could be wrose. I rebel against the constant
schedule and the feeling that diabetis is controling my life and not visa versa
and I get angry that my insurance will only pay for enough test strips to check
BS once a day. But, that's the challenge I've got right now. I do my best. Why
get angry and post my frustrations or take out my anger on others here that may
be having a bad day too? I just don't see it. Sorry. I hope all of you are
having great Spring/Summer days and are feeling good (or at least better) about
life...... Toad
On Sun May 13 10:47:29 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
So
let me get this straight CB, from your last post I can summize that anyone who
has eye problems, foot problems, kidneys, heart,nerve and any of the other
problems this great disease can cause, well are we to feel responsible? Should
we look at you and think, well damn I might see better if I only would have put
down that taco and lived on wheatgrass? Your right, it could change, and one day
it will. And you won't know what hit you, you are the most unprepared of anyone
I have seen. And if you don't like to be attacked, here are some samples you
post that piss people off. Fat Cows, people can control their diabetes if they
got off their sedetary butts, and followed Tony Robbins aka CB's advise. Also,
you brag about nothing wrong with you, well good for you, i wouldn't wish it on
my worst enemy. But don't you dare try to insiuate that any one of us should
throw any more guilt onto the heap off crap some of us deal with daily with this
disease. You have no understanding at all to what one goes through mentally when
something goes wrong, and I don't need some Popeye loving Napoleon wannabe
telling me I should look at the fact that he has diabetes for over 40 years with
no this and no that. Enough is enough CB, I have an idea. You live close to me,
why don't I drive to you, we can meet for lunch and I could look you in the eye
when I tell you what a pathetic loser you are. My name and e-mail are on this, I
am proud to oppose your views.......Marc W.
On Sun May 13 03:17:02 2001 CB () said:
To (), For the record, I am not
trying to make anyone feel stupid. I am diabetic too. I am at risk for
complications too, just like everybody else here. It just gets a little old to
be attacked for posting valid info! It gets old when stomach problems can often
be taken care of with yogurt daily, (with living acidophilus) or enzyme
capsules. I post, and get attacked. I have been diabetic well over 40 years. At
53, I still have my vision; I can walk without pain, I can push around 200 lbs
in the gym. I have no joint, tendon, or ligament problems. By G-d's grace this
is true now. It could, of course change. I doubt very much my diet would cause
serious complications. As a bodybuilder, I should be ingesting 150gms protein
daily. I am well below that figure. I am somewhat smaller and weaker because of
it, but there is no alternative to this. Sorry for the long post, had to speak
my mind.
On Sat May 12 20:48:09 2001 () said:
PRAY FOR DEATH !!! ONLY 29 DAYS TILL
THE EXECUTION
On Sat May 12 18:38:15 2001 () said:
CB,WHY DO YOU ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE US
FEEL STUPID?????YOU ARE NOT GOD A#$%OLE!!!!!!!!!!
On Sat May 12 18:02:37 2001 anna rossi (annae@yahoo.it) said:
hello
On Sat May 12 14:06:00 2001 CB afa Squatfreak () said:
If I didn't know
better, I would say there are some payoffs from processed "food" companies here!
Diabetes is a metabolic disease, so intelligent eating is crucial! In response
to (), adiet of death, according to one poster here, is high fiber, organic, law
saturated fat, whole grain based! Why stress the system with the plethora of
poisonous chemicals used in processing? Sadly, the poster is ignorant. Most here
will not ask their dietitians about some of these things or even try them, like
the low calorie wheatgrass and spirulins!
On Sat May 12 12:00:51 2001 () said:
..what does McVeigh's death have to do
with diabetes? Do we have to go through this for 29 more days????? Please
EXPLAIN???
On Sat May 12 11:04:39 2001 () said:
PRAY FOR DEATH...WATCH THE MC VEIGH
EXECUTION ON CRIME.COM THE 30 DAY COUNTDOWN PRAY FOR DEATH....
On Sat May 12 08:43:36 2001 Sam () said:
SOME of the new research on stem
cell transplants does NOT use human embryo's. Uses adult humans instead. Bone
marrow. Look it up in search engine under "adult Stem Cells".
On Fri May 11 18:57:02 2001 () said:
CB, SHUT UP ALREADY YOU FATHEAD QUEEN
OF THE QUEER SQUATS!!!!!!!
On Fri May 11 17:47:02 2001 () said:
whats a "diet of death....???"
On Fri May 11 17:15:45 2001 CB aka Squatfreak () said:
Some
clarifications....Yesterday's posts did not deal with proterin intake, That
being the case, labeling the dietary suggestions "a diet of death" was wrong.
Fish oils, flaxseed oil, cold pressed olive oil are all better choices than
margarines and std. cooking oils. Browm rice is higher in fiber, as are whole
grain organic breads. Vitamins from whole foods are better absorbed than the
chemicals that make up Centrum. This is standard stuff! About carb and fat
loading, if 90% of calories come from carbs and fat, you ARE carb and fat
loading. Total calories make no difference! Again, I am not addressing protein
intake! Gotta get to the gym and get freaky! heh heh!
On Fri May 11 17:13:28 2001 () said:
PRAY FOR DEATH PRAY FOR DEATH watch
countdown to the ME VEIGH EXECUTION ....CRIME.COM real time on scene
camera....PRAY TO GOD FOR HIS DEATH PRAY PRAY
On Fri May 11 16:42:16 2001 CB () said:
Marc B. Check into a chiro for help
with the back! Also, try pushups if doc oks them. A 10 pound disc on back will
help. Do them slow and hold a couple of secs near the bottom. Faye, good news! I
will get back to you!
On Fri May 11 16:20:54 2001 () said:
Rock-a-bye baby on the tree top...your
momma's a tramp and I'm not your pop..... Ah the memories at bed time as a
kid
On Fri May 11 16:17:51 2001 () said:
what a putz!
On Fri May 11 16:10:38 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Hey
15:14... I haven't a clue what your talking about. Then again, neither do you.
On Fri May 11 16:03:41 2001 Marc B. ((as above)) said:
Oh yes,re:taking of
Vioxx-side effects:some people react differently to different drugs/(incl.type 2
"D"'s) Close monitoring by GP helps. My doctor told me to try this drug. I'm
gonna try it for two weeks;he said to see him in approx 2 weeks(or less) to see
how my back is..Since I understand that pain can drive bs up-real
high..so,hopefully if the imflammation is less,then that is also important.
Yeah,side effects include upset stomach,still I'm sure many of these things
affect each diabetic (type 2) in different ways.
On Fri May 11 15:53:37 2001 Marc Bernstein ((as before)) said:
The following
info was copied by me from Health Canada's Website.
Avandia,Celebrex,Actos,Vioxx,all listed under possible adverse reactions for
some people. For further details,visit the Health Canada Website:(Or):(Canadian
Adverse Reaction Monitoring Program.:(CADRMP):(or e-mail:-cadrmp@hc-sc.gc.ca
Good luck.
On Fri May 11 15:14:35 2001 () said:
MARCYBOY,....YOU TALK IN
RIDDLES......YOU WANNA MAKE AN OMELET YOU GOTTA BREAK SOME EGGS......STOP BEING
SUCH A PUTTS.....YOU WANT A CURE OR NOT????????????
On Fri May 11 15:09:01 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
I
can't tell you how mad that post makes me because I am a Bush supporter but have
read that last week in the LA Times. I think they are having OK results with
adult stem cell research which will maintain it's funding, and private industry
will be the ones to carry this thru to a cure, not a federally funded group. But
as a supporter I am less than thrilled with the Bush administration putting up
more obstacles (sp)to deal with. But that news is encouraging, plus there was a
drug approved yesterday that had great results in treating cancer. I don't know
the info on that but it looks as though we should see some of those breakthru's
we hear about everyday. On the Viox issue, I said this many times. My doc won't
allow me to take it because of adverse effects on the kidneys. He actually would
rather treat the pain with narcotics (oxycontin) then let me take Viox. Just his
opinion, but something to look into if your taking it. And as Toad said, they
have adverse stomach reactions too..... Marc W
On Fri May 11 14:56:58 2001 KEEP ABORTION LEGAL AND CURE US (WRITE YOUR
CONGRESSMAN) said:
Experiments with embryonic stem cells in two studies
taken important steps toward finding new treatments for diabetes and for
Parkinson's disease, scientists say. The two studies, appearing Friday in the
journal Science, were conducted in laboratory mice. The Bush administration
continues to ban federal funding of research using human embryonic stem
cells
On Fri May 11 13:20:45 2001 Toad () said:
Marc, I've taken Vioxx for the
past two years for torn lig. in my knees and the artheritis and the torn rotary
cup in my shoulder. HAH! Ya know after 45 I started to fall appart!!! :+) If I
take it at night without something on my stomach and lay down within an hour, I
get to feeling sick to my stomach the rest of the night. I also take celebrex at
times. Gives about the same relief but doesn't upset my stomach it seems. I
really don't know where the "mostly for mental pat." comes from. Vioxx is just
the medical world's latest wonder drug for ouchies. :+) I hope this helps some.
FAYE; Thanks sooooo much for the ice cream cookie!!! Just in the nick of time
too... I've been baking for two weeks for funerals and now Mother's Day and was
about to go nuts.(Have done pretty good tho, only licked the spoon once. But
today is the day of baking cookies and I'm not sure how I'll do THAT with both
hands tied behind my back.) I love cookie dough!!!! :+0 Wish me luck... Have a
great day all!!
On Fri May 11 13:03:28 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Hi Faith,Misty,here is some info on Vioxx:(copied from medical patient
brochure):"Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug which reduces joint
swelling,pain of arthritis. Drug is prescribed for relief of osteoarthritis.
(Joint disease-result:gradual breakdown of cartilage in
spine,result:inflammation,stiffness,physical disability." It is a fairly new
drug;not supposed to cause stomach problems. Since my vertibre were fused when I
was born,this seems to be the result. Luckily,I am feeling better. My concern is
that recently,my vertibre (spinal cord) have begun to cause pressure on my
heart. It had affected my breathing,since I have asthma,it made it worse. If it
works,then,well-I'll see what my x-rays show. Can't have surgery;would cause a
stroke. Main concern:how long can I continue in my job,with disability (spine)
becoming more curved. So far,I feel much better. Bs had gone down in the three
days;ranging from 5.3(fasting) to 9. I'm at stage where "D:" more frustrating to
deal with. Doing best I can.
On Fri May 11 10:42:08 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Faye, It sounds
like you have us all hooked on this ice cream sandwich idea. I will try them as
soon as possible! It sounds like a PMS life saver....Marc B, I sure hope you get
relief and can get back to enjoying life.... I want to wish all mom's a HAPPY
MOTHERS DAY! Take care, Love & Luck, Misty
On Fri May 11 10:20:14 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
MarcB-I wish I
could tell you more about Viox, but all I know is that it IS for pain and body
tension. I hope you get some relief from it.
On Fri May 11 09:58:14 2001 () said:
Dear Marc B...Viox is used mostly for
treatment of mental illness.
On Fri May 11 09:51:52 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
Faye thanks for
the number. I will call today! And I'm w/Bambi, I'm getting those graham
crackers and cool whip today! When I was expecting, before I knew I was
diabetic, I would crave ice cream sandwiches. Use to make my husband go out and
get them late at night! LOL CB - don't ever stop w/your advice! We all can and
could learn from you. I'm w/Faye! BTW I have trouble walking for exercise. I
get, (I think I've said this before), but nevertheless, I get what I call shin
splints in the front of my ankles. It will start burning so bad, I can't walk.
So I give up. BUT, I've got to start doing something! Any ideas CB?
On Fri May 11 09:21:12 2001 () said:
YOU CALL CB "NORMAL"? MORE LIKE
"FREAK"!
On Fri May 11 08:30:46 2001 Faye aka fara (Fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
CB--you were not who I was referring to in my post. I like your posts and
get quite a bit of help from them, even though I can't do what you do and when
you told me to get the weights for strengthening my uper arms I did and it is
working. Now I need leg exercises. Have not got much muscle tone in them. Can
you help me/ I know you can. Just remember that I am an old lady of
63!!!!!!!-------Bambi-- I am sure you will enjoy the Ice Cream Sandwiches.
On Fri May 11 08:13:47 2001 Bambi (bambilovestim@email.com) said:
Faye, I'm
going to get graham crackers and cool whip this evening when we buy groceries!
Thanks for the good idea!
On Fri May 11 07:25:18 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Hi there. I haven't posted in a long time. After taking several x-rays of my
spine and neck,my GP put me on Viox. Anyone on it? I'm to try it for 2 weeks,to
ease the pain. It seems to,to a pretty fair degree. I'm on 25 Mlgrm each day.
How does it affect bs? I'm now measuring mine 6 times a day. (keeping a diary) I
had been in alot of pain,really bad-sugars had been horribly-for almost 2 weeks
had problems with controlling bs 'cause of the pain-spine is becoming more
curved. Last Wednesday,when I fasted+ saw GP,my veins kept collapsing,too cold.
they had to get the blood from my hand. I'm feeling better now,though. My spine
had become very brittle-pressing into my heart. CB:or Marc W,any exercises I
could do to help with this? My GP thinks it is osteoarthritis.
On Fri May 11 04:54:56 2001 CB () said:
Faye! I was in the mood to argue
earlier, so I did. Just read something about investing in one's body to keep it
fit and strong. That is why I spend the extra money to eat well. Enzymes,
antioxidants from whole foods, whole grains, healthy fats all play their part in
fighting the ravages of Diabetes. I admit that today I acted like a jerk. At the
same time, civil discussion should be possible. Thanks for the even tempered
post! I agree with it.
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