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On Sat Aug 13 17:24:52 2005 Casss (Boley@pldi.net) said:
Sam: this is for a
very poor friend of mine. She is 40, for some reason hasn't pursued the state
option of insurance yet. Apparently she was covered at one time when she got the
pump, but once insurance cancelled couldn't afford the supplies. She has all the
documents she needs from physician. Can you refill/reuse tubing (i'm sure it is
not recommended but is it feasible)? thanks
On Sat Aug 13 16:37:58 2005 Sam () said:
Cass...she will have to apply to
the State she is in. Have her contact Minimed..they'll know. Older tubing clogs
anyway..I don't think it'll work to re-use. Good luck. S,
On Sat Aug 13 09:38:49 2005 Sam () said:
Cass: You need documents from your
Physician, and a prescription to Medtronic/Minimed. Do you have State coverage?
Most states cover the supplies. What is your age? I am on a Paradigm 712.
On Fri Aug 12 18:01:29 2005 Cass (boley@pldi.net) said:
what can you tell me
about insulin pump supplies, especially re-using the tubing. have very limited
income and no insurance but have minimed pump and could pay for the insulin,
very brittle type I diabetic.
On Thu Aug 11 08:07:34 2005 Squats () said:
I have heard about not mixing
certain starches/carbs with meat in the past. and found it impractical and of
doubtful benefit. The key is moderation and a wide variation of different
foodstuffs. In the red meat category, there is buffalo, highin protein and low
in fat; 4% fat beef is available. Whole sprouted grain breads are great. Yams
are a good source of beta-carotenes, fiber, and low glycemic carbs. Unusual
veggies can be a treat. Arigula and kale in a salad sprinkled with a little goat
cheese and low-fat dressing can be a good change. With regard to fat, a little
almond butter instead of margarine or butter is a good choice. Squats
On Thu Aug 11 06:47:19 2005 () said:
"Normal" is a very relative term with
blood sugar levels. Ask 5 doctors and you will get 10 different opinions (at
minimum). The American Diabetes Association recommends that non-diabetics should
have a pre-meal reading of under 100 and a post-meal reading of less than 110.
Diabetics should strive for pre-meal readings of between 90 - 130 and a
post-meal reading of under 180.
On Wed Aug 10 19:20:56 2005 doug () said:
I know every one is diferent but
what would be a persons normal bs count? I have been doing well after weight
loss 8 years ago but I feel a need to pay attenion so I bought a new meter.
On Wed Aug 10 19:11:51 2005 doug () said:
I know every one is diferent but
what would be a persons normal bs count?
On Tue Aug 9 14:15:57 2005 () said:
A couple of thoughts. (1) This is from
www.diabetes.org re: a healthy diet. "A healthy diet is a way of eating that
that reduces risk for complications such as heart disease and stroke. Healthy
eating includes eating a wide variety of foods including vegetables, whole
grains, fruits, non-fat dairy products, beans, and lean meats, poultry and fish.
There is no one perfect food so including a variety of different foods and
watching portion sizes is key to a healthy diet. Also, make sure your choices
from each food group provide the highest quality nutrients you can find. In
other words, pick foods rich in vitamins, minerals and fiber over those that are
processed." Note that healthy eating includes a mix of items such as protein,
carbs, some fats, and even sugar (from fruits for example). BALANCE is the key
word when planning a HEALTHY diet. (2) Herbal supplements, like Circ-Flo and
Perfect Food -- these are NOT endorsed or regulated by the Food and Drug
Administration. There is no guarantees regarding their effectiveness or potency.
Some supplements may interact poorly with some prescription medications. It is
ALWAYS IMPORTANT to discuss adding any supplement beyond a multi-vitamin/mineral
to your diet WITH YOUR DOCTOR. He/she can provide the best advice on what you
can and CANNOT/SHOULD NOT take. I'd never take any over-the-counter supplement
without asking my doctor FIRST.
On Tue Aug 9 08:50:42 2005 () said:
brittle diabetes — A type of Type 1
diabetes in which the blood-glucose level fluctuates widely from high to low.
Brittle diabetes can be caused by the complete loss of ability to produce any
insulin, by too high an insulin dose, or by other factors. It can often be
improved through a good treatment program. Also called unstable diabetes.
On Mon Aug 8 22:05:47 2005 paulie (pjsarro@bellsouth.net) said:
I've look
threw the web,but still do not know what is meant by "brittle diabetic" please
explain. thanks
On Mon Aug 8 18:21:27 2005 Dear Richard () said:
I do not want your "cure".
With my diabetes my peter is as sweet as it can be. Want a taste? Later DICK
On Mon Aug 8 14:43:45 2005 () said:
what i consider protiens and do not mix
is meats, dairy, butter etc with any carbs or fruit like corn beans potatoes .
Cereal with no fat, non fat yougurt with fruit, no fatted protiens I guess would
be better.
On Mon Aug 8 14:42:39 2005 () said:
Richard: You are not fooling anyone who
had at least a grade school education. Your attempts to distract readers from
your original post are sadly futile. Your original point was to talk about some
herbal supplements that are available through numerous Internet sites, some of
which do hype them as "cures" for diabetes (Circ-Flo and Perfect Food). What
should work for any diabetic is regular consultations with their own physician
and development of a balanced diet that includes all food groups to help the
individual keep and maintain healthy, stable blood sugar levels. Telling other
diabetics that "I used in the beginning a product called Circu FLo, and about a
year ago started a product called Perfect Food. 2 months ago I stopped all
suppliments, and have had perfect readings, all normal I ate a huge burger,
fries, pie with ice cream and had blood sugars of 140 2 hours later" is patently
DANGEROUS. I wouldn't comment on the veracity of such a statement, as I'm not
sure a non-diabetic would be able to each such a high-fat, high-carb,
sugar-laden meal and have a blood sugar reading of 140 two hours later. Please
continue to back-pedal from your original statements, Richard. It is interesting
to watch your ever-changing song and dance routine.
On Mon Aug 8 12:59:49 2005 () said:
What is concidered protein?
On Mon Aug 8 11:37:41 2005 richard (hadabob@yahoo.com) said:
On Mon Aug 8
10:45:57 2005 . (.) said: This is exactly what I meant when I called Richard
"dangerous". I'm betting he doesn't even have diabetes. It's easy to be faceless
and nameless and prey on people who may be at a vulnerable point in their
disease. Think what you will, I wish I was not diagnosed with it LOL. Besides
prey is also a wrong word to write. Got nothing to sell, peddle, or take from
anyone. Any one who stands in the way of another recieving help and improvement
might be dangerious. As adults we are to share and relate to others, things that
"may be of assistance and help". To impede people from listening to accounts
that may be helpful is much more dangerious. Sorry, when I was diagnosed, I delt
with it as best as i could, changed things right away, and today I am living a
life free of the symptoms ( neuropathy, disiness, blurred vision, tingling in
the legs tired all the time), which I had btw, of this horrible disease. Does
that mean if I started to eat on a daily basis like garbage I would be ok? Not
on your life. I am different than you as you are different from me. What has
worked for me is not mixing carbs and protiens try it for 2 weeks, it may help
you. I have nothing to gain and you have everything to gain if it works for you.
I say it with much love, not as an advasary, but simply as some one who wants to
help. If it does not work then nothing lost.
On Mon Aug 8 11:21:24 2005 () said:
sorry the first thing I responded with
did not display completely. please read a vew posts below to start .
On Mon Aug 8 11:19:55 2005 () said:
You are using your words with an
incorrect application. I do not push anything, nor did I say they are miracle
cures. Only twice have I mentioned what I did and that is not touting. And what
cover? Please re read what I wrote. No one should eat a high fat high carb high
sugar diet who has diabetes. I stated what I ate and was amased at the results,
I did not as you accuse, " starting pushing herbal supplements as some miracle
cure that allows someone with diabetes to eat a high fat, high carb meal with no
ill effects". That is where I am at today. You missunderstood what I wrote. And
I am sure that if I ate like that every day my sugars would be back in the ugly
zone. MY POINT IS FOOD COMBINATION, IT WORKS VERY WELL (for me and others)No
carbs (starches) and protein. mixed together for 3 hours in between meals.
On Mon Aug 8 11:19:14 2005 () said:
then the word pap Etymology: Middle
English 1 : a soft food for infants or invalids 2 : political patronage 3 :
something lacking solid value or substance I assume you are using the term to
relate to your opinion of a product, which of course is your choice. as far as
touting is concerned 3 : to solicit, peddle, or persuade importunately 4 : to praise or publicize
loudly or extravagantly
On Mon Aug 8 11:16:49 2005 richard (Hadabob@yahoo.com) said:
I am sorry what
you read, and what you thought, do not match what I wrote, or the intention of
my writings. If you will look at what I wrote it was simply stating what I did,
period. for example: Main Entry: 1huck·ster Pronunciation: 'h&k-st&r
Function: noun Etymology: Middle English hukster, from Middle Dutch hokester,
from hoeken to peddle 1 : HAWKER, PEDDLER 2 : one who produces promotional
material for commercial clients especially for radio or television If you tell
someone you use a certain kind of gasoline, or that that gasoline makes your car
better, are you a huckster? (or in the words of Foxworthy " you may be a
huckster" You are not hired, nor do you make any money from such a comment. If a
friend asks you where is a really good resturant to eat and you tell him, "you
may be a huckster" If that friend tries the resturant and hates it, should he
then be mean and abusive towards you and call you huckster? All you did was make
a comment. You see a huckster must be paid and also be peddling some thing. then
the word pap Etymology: Middle English 1 : a soft food for infants or invalids 2
: political patronage 3 : something lacking solid value or substance I assume
you are using the term to relate to your opinion of a product, which of course
is your choice. as far as touting is concerned 3 : to solicit, peddle, or
persuade importunately 4 :
to praise or publicize loudly or extravagantly
On Mon Aug 8 10:45:57 2005 . (.) said:
This is exactly what I meant when I
called Richard "dangerous". I'm betting he doesn't even have diabetes. It's easy
to be faceless and nameless and prey on people who may be at a vulnerable point
in their disease.
On Mon Aug 8 08:06:10 2005 () said:
Richard: This is what you originally
posted here a few days ago -- "Today, however, I can eat anything it seems
including sugar and It has no effect on my sugars. Simply put I eliminated
combining carbs and protiens of any sort. I used in the beginning a product
called Circu FLo, and about a year ago started a product called Perfect Food. 2
months ago I stopped all suppliments, and have had perfect readings, all normal
I ate a huge burger, fries, pie with ice cream and had blood sugars of 140 2
hours later." That is what I refer to as pap and hucksterism; trying to tout a
product as some miracle cure when it isn't. Try backpedaling all you want, but
you blew your cover when you starting pushing herbal supplements as some miracle
cure that allows someone with diabetes to eat a high fat, high carb meal with no
ill effects.
On Sat Aug 6 22:47:00 2005 hadabob (hadabob1959@yahoo.com) said:
Hi, Thanks,
I do and it works! My wife does it and it works. Instead of potatoes mash
ruttabega boil them. Really tastes great and u can use them just like potatoes
and no carbs.
On Sat Aug 6 21:00:44 2005 () said:
Thanks, richard...why not try it?
On Sat Aug 6 19:20:51 2005 richard (hadabob1959@yahoo.com) said:
oh well
guess I am huckster in your eyes peddling nothing. Have nothing to sell, nothing
to gain, everything to loose. Listen to your Gods, have your limbs go numb and
youe eysight fail, organs fail, dont listen to your inner self, or your body. I
had ac1 of 12.5 now I dont. I had lots of troubles now I dont, I had high sugars
now I dont. I am not alone there are others who threw diet and excersise have
overcome, in the same way. I guess some people don't want solutions, or don't
want to look at ways to possibly get better. AGAIN TO THOSE WHO WILL LISTEN TRY
NOT MIXING CARBS AND PROTIENS FOR 3 HOURS BETWEEN MEALS AND MONITOR YOUR SUGARS
SEE WHAT THEY DO TRY IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS TAKE YOUR MEDS FOLLOW YOUR DOCTORS
ADVISE BUT SIMPLY TRY IT SEE IF IT WORKS FOR YOU. so there is my huckster
advise.
On Sat Aug 6 17:11:02 2005 margaret (queenbeemom@webtv.net) said:
my husband
was recently told he had diabetes, and now neuropathy on his left side has set
in, with tinglingness. do you know of an exercise that he can do to strengthen
his knee and leg?
On Sat Aug 6 08:11:56 2005 () said:
Richard: Your "ideas" have no foundation
in real medicine; the products you tout are not cures and could be dangerous to
some people. No one believes your pap, so maybe you can go try to peddle your
"miracle cures" somewhere else. Most people here will listen to their doctor
before they listen to some unknown huckster on an Internet message board.
On Fri Aug 5 15:37:37 2005 o (o) said:
Has anyone heard of the new insulin
out called Byetta?
On Fri Aug 5 10:27:45 2005 Sam (raneysam@yahoo.com) said:
Has anyone, with
an insulin pump, gone on regular insulin? I have been on Novolog, and now can't
afford it, since I bought a house. I have 2 insurances, but still have a co-pay
of 20% for insulin, here in this new area. It'll add another payout of 30-50
dollars. I need to know if I can use the same amount of regular insulin, with a
longer time frame, of course. The pump people can't help. I have until September
to figure this out. Thanks.
On Thu Aug 4 13:06:38 2005 () said:
you no what take no notice of what this
arse says, if it works for you then great, at the end of the day you are telling
us about your experiences, people can either look into it or
dont...............their choice, I am glad you have found something that works
for you and your wife.
On Thu Aug 4 11:18:24 2005 () said:
I pray your mind will be opened, as it
seems to be closed, and unteachable. It would seem your assesment is based upon
ignorance, or rather what you percieve as truth. It is said people who have
diabetes have lost the sweetness for life. It seems you would rather fling
accusations and assumptions rather than have healthy dialogue. I do not mean any
of the above words in an ugly manner nor have I ever attacked or demaned any one
on this sight. So please refrain from your ugly, angry, and demeaning comments.
I do not anticipate any appology, I suppose you will fling more trash at me and
that is your choice. I too was diagnosed with this disease and have found what
has worked very specifically for me. By not engaging in healthy dialouge who is
endangering who? I do not want to hurt anyone and I have met a number of people
who have done what I have done and sucessfully, without meds, lowered their
sugars. Does that mean that any one should not take meds, no of course not,
should they be open and see what works for their body, I would think any one
should see what works for them and consult with their doctor. Do I want to see
people helped of course. Do YOU?
On Thu Aug 4 08:55:26 2005 . (.) said:
Because you are dangerous - that's
why. Oh, and you're full of crap too.
On Wed Aug 3 12:55:51 2005 hadabob (hadabob1959@yahoo.com) said:
(.)I don't
know why you are seemingly being so mean. What did I say to offend you, or why
are you not interested in what I am saying. Please help me to understand. I
wanted to share and help and give ideas that have very really, worked for me,
and my wife too. I assume people have been saying a bunch of things that may
seem like high tales. Yet no one asked me any questions to seek knowledge as to
what may have happened in my case. It seems you have blasted me. why? do you
know my intent, which is very serious, and to share and give ideas that helped
me, which may help someone else.
On Wed Aug 3 10:19:25 2005 () said:
My GI diet is going really well, I
haven't put anymore weight on I am still 9st 3lb, but thats ok, and I am walking
to work still, so I feel great.
On Tue Aug 2 09:52:21 2005 () said:
Mandy, How are doing on the GI diet? We
haven't heard from you for awhile.
On Tue Aug 2 09:50:46 2005 . (.) said:
Great. Now go express your thoughts
elsewhere.
On Mon Aug 1 16:25:47 2005 HADABOB1959 (HADABOB1959@YAHOO.COM) said:
Hi,
Remember I said I have taken no suppliments for about 2 months. I am totally
serious. Really no tall tales, I do not eat those things on a regular basis at
all I just did it at the time cause I was curious. I am totally serious and I
can document my diagnosis,and confirm that for years I had very high blood
sugars. I just stated what I did and I am in amasement and do not have the
answers. I am just telling what hapened. Many of my friends know how I have
eaten for years, which has been very healthy an occasional burger, no fries, no
sugar of any kind, no potatoes, rice, beans, starch, corn, etc, any thing like
that for years. If you dismiss what I am saying you are dismissing my actual
account and the truth. I did not know those 2 products claimed that. I am only
saying what has happened in my life. Yeh I cant believe the "tall tale" either
of the fries burger and ice cream. It totally shocked me. But it is what the
meter said. And besides I am not peddling anything I have no interest in selling
anything. Try not mixing carbs and protiens and see what it does. Look 3 years
ago I was in shock that I was diagnosed with it, and I immediately dealt with it
as I am sure you do. My one week average as of today is 108. Besides my wife has
diabetes and not mixing carbs and protiens brought her levels down to the normal
range. Her ac1 is in the 6's where it was in the 12's I believe before. However
she takes medication. But very specifically the not mixing carbs and protiens at
the same meal has kept her sugars down also. We both noticed that once we mixed
bread and butter say our sugars went way up. But use promise spread which has no
protien on bread and our sugars were not effected. Say what you will, think what
you will. thanks for letting me express my thoughts.
On Mon Aug 1 10:35:45 2005 () said:
Circu-Flo and Perfect Food are just a
couple of alleged "super-supplements" marketed over the Internet as "cures" for
diabetics. It would be wise for anyone to print information about these products
and consult with your own doctor BEFORE ordering or taking them. Diabetics need
to be very cautious about adding supplements or making changes to their diet
without consulting with a doctor first. There are NO miracle cures for diabetes
and certainly there is no supplement available that would allow a diabetic to
eat "a huge burger, fries, pie with ice cream" and have resulting "blood sugars
of 140 2 hours later." Sorry, Richard, but I am not buying your "tall tale."
On Mon Aug 1 09:46:34 2005 . (.) said:
Nickyhockey: start with the juvenile
diabetes research foundation www.jdf.org. Good luck!
On Mon Aug 1 09:45:03 2005 . (.) said:
Richard: you are doing a not fooling
any of us. Take your poor diet habits (huge burgers, fries, cakes, and pies are
not advisable for ANYONE)and peddle your miracle potions elsewhere. The people
on this site are serious about dealing with their disease and that includes
taking their meds as precribed and following healthy diets. Squats could teach
you a thing or two.
On Mon Aug 1 08:01:59 2005 nickyhocky (nicbudge@netspace.net.au) said:
I
have recently had my 6 year old diagnosed with Type 1 diabeties and really want
to find a chat line of other parents dealing with this and cant find
anything...can you help?
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