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On Thu Jun 19 17:11:30 2003 To Squats (You Have To Be Creative) said:
MAIN
COURSE- Make up a pot of bean based chili.Yves soy ground round, very low fat
and good source of protien (or a similar product)is nice added after the
vegetables have been cooked. Cook the vegetables (onions, peppers, mushrooms,
celery,etc) in the microwave in a casserole dish with NO FAT. Remove it and add
canned beans (a variety is good) and a can of tomato product that you enjoy
(whole,diced, squished,or fresh etc.). Add your spices (chili,cilantro,cumin,
whatever you enjoy). Serve with NO FAT sour cream or I like low fat cottage
cheese and a nice green salad with NO FAT dressing. DESSERT- Make an angel food
cake= 0 fat. Cut up a cup of nice fresh strawberries= trace fat. Whip up with a
high speed electric beater 1/2 c. ICE COLD water, 3/4 tsp. lemon juice and 1/2
c. skim milk powder. Beat slowly to moisten then beat at high speed until stiff.
Beat in 2 tbsp. sugar (1 1/2 tsp liquid sweetener for those who use it and I
know you don't) and 1/2 tsp. vanilla. Makes 3 1/2 cups. Use within 45 minutes of
making because it doesn't hold well(trace fat)
On Wed Jun 18 21:47:06 2003 From High Fat Person (((..))) said:
Hello, I
know this fat stuff is tricky... Everything I eat is low fat or no fat.
Occassionally I will split something to get only 10 grams in the serving. Lean
Pockets at 7 grams are a big part of my evening meal. Fruits and veggies and no
butter. It is very boring. I am thin but not skinny. It boils down to rerouting
your tastes buds. I love toast and peanut butter and just make that my Sunday
morning treat. I do not have a clue where the carbs linger while waiting to
merge into the system. That is a great question. If I think about it, I would
say they just ever so slowly seep into the blood stream as the fat is blocking
the way. By that time, 2 hours later, the insulin is disappearing or gone. I
will ask my doc about it or you might ask yours. The stomach problems just
compound the problem. I do know though, this makes a huge difference in control
and was so happy to learn why I had the lows and then the highs. Once you get
this control down it makes you think twice about eating fatty foods, unless of
course you are having a celebration of some sort. Then indulge and pay later,
but atleast you will know why it happened. This is a diabetic fact not a myth.
It is true information or I would not have posted it. I can reasearch the ADA
site and see what they say. I will try to get back to you ASAP. I am just not
online much. Good Luck
On Tue Jun 17 23:02:54 2003 Reply to (High Fat Stuff ) said:
Wow. I'm really
struggling with this one but I'm glad it helps you. "diets high in fat will not
allow the carbs to filter into the system until a later hour in the day, " Is
this a digetion system function or.............? Where do the carbs go while
they wait?
On Tue Jun 17 03:59:14 2003 Squats () said:
& gms/fat per meal? I do not
know how you do it. That means only the very leanest beef, buffalo, and poultry
is allowed. Margarine has 5 gms/fat teaspoon, so even that is out.
On Mon Jun 16 23:29:15 2003 High Fat Stuff ((...)) said:
Hello, I posted a
high fat note about 10 days ago and it disappeared....diets high in fat will not
allow the carbs to filter into the system until a later hour in the day,
sometimes 3-4 hours later. Therefore the insulin goes into the system first,
causing the lows, and then the carbs surge and there is no insulin to keep the
control, thusly another shot must be given as the sugars rise. I am on the pump,
which has a program to control this. Every diabetic (I don't know how a pill
person would do this) must take glucose readings every 2-3 hours to watch for
the rise in sugars and then inject/bolus accordingly. This has been talked about
for many years now, and all doctors should be aware of the fat delema. High fat
: Pizza (cheese) Mac and Cheese, Burgers, Fries, Onion Rings, Butter, Oil etc,
anything with high fat grams. Pumpers have to watch high fat at 30 grams, but
that is way too much, so I started watching at 15gr...it is borderline for the
rise. Now, I keep my fat to less than 7 gr per meal. It's a drag, but I am
definately more stable with this program. Have a good day.
On Mon Jun 16 10:08:04 2003 Squats () said:
If 25-30% of your calorie intake
comes from fat, that is a high fat diet! I was told by a CDE that a 28% fat
intake was recommended to keep bodyweight up. Her meal plan was low protein, so
I was losing muscle mass and strength. BTW, the heart association has said up to
30% of calories can come from fat! Anyway, my bodyweight was mostly fat. I hope
she was an exception! But I fear that may not be the case. As I type, I am
eating breakfast: 1 cup instant oatmeal with flaxseed and 1/2 cup of goat milk.
Also coffee. I agree that it is puzzling to me.
On Sun Jun 15 19:35:18 2003 () said:
Squats Could you tell me why a CDE
would ever reccommend a high fat diet?
On Sun Jun 15 18:04:36 2003 Squats () said:
Friday 4:14 I agree with you on
the informative nature of the discussion! If an individual faces high spikes due
to a high fat diet, then it makes sense to reduce the fat! If a CDE recommends a
high fat diet, then he/she should be told about the froblem!
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On Fri Jun 13 04:14:00 2003 () said:
And squats How would you know this? Are
you the one that is removing information on here? I thought the one on Fat and
the high spike four or five hours later was very imformative. It is the same for
me and I think other diabetics have the same problem. Maybe you don't consume
much fat but then again other's do.
On Thu Jun 12 04:31:07 2003 Squats () said:
Can't make sense of the
removals, unless the whole day's posts are removed if some are bad!
On Wed Jun 11 23:55:03 2003 () said:
squats i posted a question on a bolus
rate also this afternoon,,,it was removed can you check into what may be posted
here
On Wed Jun 11 14:57:59 2003 Faith () said:
Squats, I posted a response to
your post on Mon May 26 16:40:56 2003 right after you posted it, or soon there
after, and it was removed. What I said was, my doctors have recommended my range
not exceed 150. When it does, I'm to bolus in one unit for every 50 over the
150. Seems to work!
On Tue Jun 10 12:26:53 2003 () said:
all posts from last night removed
becausing of yabberng....yab yum yum yeb yummy...
On Sat Jun 7 14:14:52 2003 Poster ((.....)) said:
Squats - I posted
stuff.....it disappeared !!!!! And it was GOOD stuff !
On Sat Jun 7 01:10:57 2003 Squats () said:
No point to doing anything but
lurk, if no one posts! Thank you all, bigots, commies, yammerers, attackers,
etc.
On Fri Jun 6 00:38:51 2003 Squats () said:
NjpThorne: Please post! Some of
us will answer as best we can!
On Thu Jun 5 19:04:03 2003 (NJPThorn@aol.com) said:
I am new to the chat
room and have a few questions about diabetes
On Thu Jun 5 10:37:05 2003 () said:
yammering
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