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On Mon Jan 27 17:03:44 2003 TFaith () said:
Steve, What do you take, insulin
or oral meds. The reason I ask, my husband who is a Type II, and is now on diet
and exercise control, had his doctor tell him that with his A1C's around 5.
something, he didn't have to check so often. He was checking 6-7 times a day. He
was told to check 2-3 times a week at various times.
You also might be interested in the tester that you use on your forearm.
Can't remember the name. B. B. King advertises it on TV.
On Mon Jan 27 16:43:32 2003 Jim () said:
HbA1c conversion chart here.
http://www.geocities.com/diabeteschart/bloodsugarchart.html
On Mon Jan 27 16:36:15 2003 () said:
Intresting FAA is going to start
weighing passengers on small commuter planes. Says some of the women are so fat
they need to have 2 seats to avoid putting the plane overweight on takeoff.
Squats is right.
On Mon Jan 27 16:17:53 2003 Steve () said:
How often do you test (on
average) each day? My latest A1c was up from 6.1 to 6.6, but my doctor says
testing 3 or 4 times a day is sufficient for me (I am a Type 2). I was
disappointed in the results because our goal is to reach and hold a 6.0. I
usually test pre-breakfast, post-breakfast, post-lunch, and after dinner/before
bed. Never had a low at night, only during the day (usually before lunch). I
know it's not a big setback, but when I was first diagnosed my reading was
somewhere around 440 or so. (Don't know what the A1c for that would be.) I know
testing is different for everyone, but also wonder if testing more would help
(not that I want to -- my fingers hurt enough as is!). Thanks!
On Mon Jan 27 15:27:27 2003 () said:
NUKE IRAQ
On Mon Jan 27 15:17:30 2003 () said:
TFaith stop talking about sex with
animals on here !
On Mon Jan 27 15:15:39 2003 () said:
Terrytoo do you like to pet cats ?
On Mon Jan 27 15:13:35 2003 () said:
I LUV MY BRAIN AN TFAITH TOO
On Mon Jan 27 15:11:15 2003 KKK () said:
Remember your race is your flag and
your voice is your weapon
On Mon Jan 27 14:40:36 2003 () said:
NO.IT SAYS ADAM WAS MADE IN HIS IMAGE
AND EVERY ONE KNOWS ADAM WAS A WHITE BOY.....
On Mon Jan 27 14:21:47 2003 () said:
Definitely Maryann. Ginger got too much
'back'. We're going to war with Iraq!!!!
On Mon Jan 27 14:19:46 2003 () said:
IDGIT CANT 'PELL
"INTERESTING".........DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
On Mon Jan 27 14:18:54 2003 Terrytoo () said:
Who says God is white! It, the
Bible, just says all man was made in his image! We all, our spirits, were made
in God's image.
On Mon Jan 27 14:16:59 2003 () said:
Maryanne? Or Ginger?
On Mon Jan 27 14:16:30 2003 Terrytoo () said:
how many were there during
Jesus time? I think this was the operative part of the poster you referred to as
an IDGIT! BTW, Jesus was not from Kuwait! Let's remember Bethlehem! He was
Jewish, a Hebrew of the day. Far from being what one would call white! Now,
who's the IDGIT! But, we digress! Get back to the intersting post on Islets!
On Mon Jan 27 14:12:26 2003 () said:
how many were there during Jesus
time?........WELL THERE WAS JESUS,GOD,MARY,12 APOSTLES,MOSES AND THE REST.THEY
WERE ALL WHITE WERENT THEY???????
On Mon Jan 27 14:05:56 2003 () said:
ALL KINDS OF WHITES IN KUWAIT RIGHT NOW
IDGIT
On Mon Jan 27 13:53:05 2003 Terry () said:
How many whites have you seen in
the middle east lately, but most importantly, how many were there during Jesus
time?
On Mon Jan 27 13:15:28 2003 () said:
JESUS WAS WHITE
On Mon Jan 27 13:05:55 2003 () said:
Bell Curve proves Asian have largest
brains, Whites somewhat smaller and blacks the smallest. Has nothing to do with
racism, just the facts of life.
On Mon Jan 27 11:48:45 2003 () said:
I LOVE JESUS
On Mon Jan 27 10:36:54 2003 TFaith () said:
On Sat Jan 25 04:19:09 2003
Organ Transplant Support, thank you for the post. I also fit the requirements,
but think the distance from here to their center would be a problem.
I use to go to a site that promoted islet cell study. Then, while I was going
to the site, they were promoting xenotransplantation. (Pig to man) The islets
from a pig that was raised in a protected enviorment, were incapsulated and
injected into the abdominal area. Don't know where that study is now, but it
seemed to be a possible treatment. Doing it that way, with the islets
incapsulated, kept the possibility of rejection to near zero. This study was
being done in Canada.
On Mon Jan 27 05:59:57 2003 () said:
Yes is Bell Curve...a good study
On Sun Jan 26 23:48:11 2003 Squats () said:
The "Ball Curve" was mentioned
in a preceding post. It is the "Bell Curve" and raised controversy when
published. Academic performance is based on numerous variables, including two
parents, requiring kids to study and read, getting them library card, exposing
them to Bach, Mozart, etc. And if Diabetic, maintaining control of blood sugar.
If (for the sake of making my point, the book is true), any limitations CAN be
overcome.
On Sun Jan 26 21:07:50 2003 () said:
To awareness, are you some kind of
TRAITOR ? Get behind our flag or get out !
On Sun Jan 26 20:09:15 2003 Islet Cell Transplant (Sat Jan 25 08:57:47 2003 Sue
(AP) (none) THE CELLS ARE FROM CADAVERS IS THAT OK?????) said:
There has
been a huge interest of late in islet cell transplants. Indeed, an immense
amount of press has been generated since researchers in Edmonton, Alberta
demonstrated remarkable success in transplanting islet cells (harvested from
cadavers) and implanting them in a few individuals with Type 1 diabetes and
rendering them free of the need to take insulin injections. But ... (and I'm
sorry to have to say this): they studied only a very few individuals (about 160
patients worldwide have received transplants as of November, 2002) not all of
the transplant recipients have remained off insulin injections (20 percent have
been back on insulin within one year). all of the transplant recipients have to
stay on anti-rejection drugs or they will reject the transplanted cells. certain
complications may and indeed, do occur from both the transplant procedure and
the anti-rejection drugs including: blood clots ("partial thrombosis of the
portal vein") bleeding (to the point, on occasion, of requiring a blood
transfusion) mouth ulcers worsening of hypertension (high blood pressure)
worsening of dyslipidemia (abnormal cholesterol and triglycerides)theoretically,
one could receive an islet cell transplant, reject it and then be less able to
succeed with a future transplant (when the technique has been 'perfected')
because of a build-up of antibodies to islet cells. Several of the lead
researchers from the Edmonton study have recently published an article in The
Lancet (an internationally recognized and famed medical journal) wherein they
state: "The procedure can...only be justified in patients at great risk
from...severe recurrent coma or metabolic instability despite compliance with an
optimum insulin regimen." So, no it is not a cure. But it is a very favourable
step forward and hopefully as the technique improves it will become an
increasingly effective, safe and useful treatment. The ultimate goal is, of
course, to have an unlimited supply of islet cells available for transplant and
for these cells to be immunologically neutral (which is to say; not being
subject to rejection by the recipient). Most every Type 1 diabetic I have ever
met has been told of an imminent "cure" for diabetes for pretty well as long as
they have had diabetes. Well-meaning friends and relatives call them with the
"great news" about "the cure that they heard about on the radio." And most
diabetics I've known have come to grow sceptical of such repeated
"breakthroughs." And I can't blame them for a moment. They've heard it all
before. Yet, one day there will be a cure. No, I don't know when, but I sure do
hope that there will come a time when my services are no longer needed and I
have to go looking for a new job. Hey, maybe I'll go into writing full time.
(Though what is it they say about not giving up your day job?). I discuss islet
cell transplants further in a recent PowerPoint presentation on new research
findings for Type 1 diabetes that I gave at the Charles H. Best Diabetes Centre
for Children & Youth. It was geared to be accompanied by my commentary, but
you might, nonetheless, find it of interest to look at. More information is
available at the University of Alberta islet cell transplant web site.
On Sun Jan 26 19:59:33 2003 A.P. with awareness () said:
Are you all BRAIN
DEAD???? We face a WAR..and you bicker over trivil shit!!!! NO U.N. behind
us...you nincompoops, why worry about diabetes, when we face death by Bush! Get
a life...we are in DANGER!!!!!!!!!!! Read the Headlines, and think of the title
"New World Order"...look out your windows..in your pocketbook, the news, or
..are you SO stupid??? YOU ARE BEING KILLED SOON! I am already dead., what about
you?? I warn you be aware. THe Bush Administration is nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOOK!!!
On Sun Jan 26 19:16:27 2003 () said:
18:28 are you gay ? (Queer)
On Sun Jan 26 19:14:21 2003 () said:
And what about The Ball Curve....PROOF
that blacks have smaller brains...stop your whining and stand up for your race
you jerk !
On Sun Jan 26 18:28:29 2003 that is the most racist (thing I have ever seen!)
said:
fits right in with the bigatry here! There is no difference in cells
from one human to another based on race. And throw in sexist as well. A male
lung might be larger than a female lung in most cases depending on the size of
the people invovled. So "17:31:06" suppose you tell us your credentials and
experience! I suppose you are one of those who still believe blacks have smaller
brains....or think race is a matter of blood. Don't give us your name or address
or anything nobody wants to know you! just list your degrees and the medical
university that gave them, and what field you are working in.
On Sun Jan 26 17:31:06 2003 () said:
Sorry Granny, there is a difference in
race in transplants, also a difference in transplants from one sex to
another...ie; a female needing a lung transplant does much better if the organ
comes from a man, also, blacks do better with renal transplants from a white
donor...don't just throw your statements out and expect us to take them as
accurate.
On Sun Jan 26 17:18:24 2003 hey i gotta know (WHO is) said:
marc bernstein?
WHAT is marc bernstein? does anyone care?
On Sun Jan 26 17:17:12 2003 grannypj (grannypj@hotmail.com) said:
I do NOT
think the islet transplant is worthless, they are making progress and will
continue to make progress. It is, short of a pancreas transplant, the best we
have going so far. Test strips cost a little under $1 each here. Cost
differential would depend on how frequently the glucowatch patches are changed.
Hopefully this year's model is more cost effective than the earlier ones. On
transplanted cells - tissue matches are necessary in most and even then they
require anti-rejection meds. And there is no such thing as race in transplants.
Human cells are the same in all races of human beings. Count your chromosomes.
Anyone on here actually using a glucowatch? Anyone had the islet transplant?
On Sun Jan 26 13:18:57 2003 () said:
MARC BERNSTEIN
On Sun Jan 26 13:17:55 2003 () said:
Strange cells ?
On Sun Jan 26 13:15:31 2003 () said:
Please check with Doctor Squat first
and see if he approves.
On Sun Jan 26 12:15:12 2003 () said:
call your congressman today and demand
scr research from any and all means possible take place immediately to save our
skins!!!!!i dont care whether it is from aborted babies or not. call
now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Sat Jan 25 16:28:37 2003 () said:
Strange cells ?
On Sat Jan 25 16:24:15 2003 () said:
what if a person got mixed race cells
?
On Sat Jan 25 16:13:27 2003 Squats () said:
A question about the study...is
the kidney concern due to the necessary use of immunosuppressant drugs? Putting
cells "strange" to the body, it seems, would demand their use.
On Sat Jan 25 16:04:06 2003 To Granny PJ (Re: Cost of Patches) said:
Have
you calculated the price of test strips per day because if a person is testing
4+ times a day there is not much difference in cost for the accuracy of knowing
your bloodsugar every 20 minutes.
On Sat Jan 25 15:49:33 2003 () said:
GRANNY HAS BEEN TALKING TO SQUAT OUR
CHIEF MEDICAL ADVISOR
On Sat Jan 25 15:47:10 2003 () said:
Judy I looked on the Medicare.gov site,
coverage varies by state but it seemed to cover all the diabetic services you
might need. As I suggested before contact a local CDE.
On Sat Jan 25 15:44:17 2003 () said:
Granny I read the whole info on the
Islet Cell transplants, you seem to say that the transplant is worthless, am
surprised you know so much more that the Doc involved in the study...where do
you get your information to make such a statement ?
On Sat Jan 25 15:34:54 2003 Grannypj (grannypj@hotmail.com) said:
The
glucowatch has been in testing for years. It was in trials at Mayo Clinic, in MN
four years ago. It works fine but the patches were $3 each which made its use
prohibitive for most people. The problem with the islet transplant was that the
islets do not live long enough to sustain much benefit. On the post about
insulin resistance - you just defined Type II diabetes. For those having spikes
in the night, you might need to adjust the time you take your long-acting. Pete
switched from 5 pm to 9 pm and that stabilized nights somewhat. The nurse who
believes a reading in the 40s isn't possible needs to be reported to the doctor
immediately! She obviously doesn't know what she is talking about and should not
be working with diabetics because she is in a position to make life-threatening
mistakes. This disease would be much easier to deal with if it wasn't for the
fact that each individual has a different set of factors and even those change
day to day. It is good to see some factual posting here again. There is so much
to learn and you all have so much to share. If anyone can find whatever it takes
to ignore the flamers, the site could be functional again. I got a lot out of
reading the posts today and it hasn't been that way in a while. THANKS GUYS
On Sat Jan 25 15:33:20 2003 () said:
Judy, look in your Medicare manual or
call the 800 toll free Medicare line, I can't find my manual right now but it is
all on their web site www.medicare.gov or just search Medicare. Most all Hosp
have free diabetic education services so just call your closest Hosp and ask to
talk to their CDE.
On Sat Jan 25 13:13:50 2003 judy (jdiselin@aol.com) said:
does anyone know
exactlyhlw much that medicare will pay for 30 mins of diabtes education??
On Sat Jan 25 13:03:45 2003 () said:
Hey, hey...THANKS organ transplant
poster!!! Good data!!!
On Sat Jan 25 12:55:43 2003 Marc W () said:
Hey 4:19, organ transplant post.
Thanks for that. That is a great post, I am going to call them Monday, the list
of eligibility I match perfectly. I will post an update after I hear what they
say. Thanks again.... Marc
On Sat Jan 25 11:55:03 2003 () said:
The religionists from DHD come over
here and complain about what is posted. Wish they would keep the religion on
their side of the fence.
On Sat Jan 25 10:05:34 2003 () said:
I think that we all have the right to
post whatever on this board. I would like to read something that effects
diabetics then some of the garbage on here.
On Sat Jan 25 08:57:47 2003 Sue (AP) (none) said:
Please DO NOT post about
stem cell research here. Thank You.
On Sat Jan 25 04:19:09 2003 Organ Transplant Support Feb 2003 issue () said:
"Hope for Insulin dependant Diabetics": Islet Cell Transplants-the Edmondon
protocol-beta cell transplant. The days of daily insulin injections are numbered
for diabetics. Northwestern Memorial Hosp in Chicago is one of two that has FDA
approval to preform pilot trial islet cell transplants(IT) U.of Illnois Hosp is
the other. The sugery is a laproscopic outpatient procedure requiering no
overnight stay. For the 1st 6 mo the recipient will need to visit the transplant
center often for blood tests and monitoring. In most cases all activity can be
resumed in 1 week. Compared to most transplants the procedure is simple. A slit
is made and about a teaspoon on islet cells are poured into the liver. The cells
adhere and start making insulin. Eligibility: Type 1 diabetes, At least 18 years
old, there is no max age, Brittle despite a strict regimen,Insulin reactions
with little or no warning,must have good renal (kidney) function, either by
natural or transplanted kidneys. A transplanted liver will also work
fine.Patients with heart conditions are also accepted. One person in the study
had had triple bypasses. To REceive a free information packet and application
for consideration call Northwestern Hosp Transplant Unit at 312-695-0828 or
Univ. of Illnois Hosp at 312-996-6771. NOTE: a complete reprint of this study is
avail from Organ Transplant Support http://www.geocities.com/otsfriends/ or
email RPMCots@aol.com. Organ Transplant Support is one of the largest Organ
Transplant Support groups. Memberships are available at 12.00/yr which include a
newletter and other material as well as a website and services of Volunteers in
Ill and Wisconsin.
On Fri Jan 24 16:20:02 2003 Important Type II Info- Do You Have Insulin
Resistance????? (http://www.diabetesheadstart.ca) said:
Ninety-two percent
of people with type 2 diabetes may have insulin resistance, but most don't know
it. Insulin resistance occurs when the cells in your body cannot use insulin
effectively, and harmful levels of sugar accumulate in your blood. Over time,
blood sugar levels rise and type 2 diabetes may develop. By treating insulin
resistance, you may be better able to manage your diabetes.
On Fri Jan 24 15:37:17 2003 Squats () said:
Dandy Randy and Mark, I haven't
had an A1C that low for years. My Goal is to keep it between 5 and 6. RE
nightime spikes, I can tell if I am going into one by testing BS 2x, 1.5 hours
apart. Glutamine helps moderate it, but I do not take it every night. For me, 2
units humalog keep the BS within a reasonable range without a serious low. My
morning blood sugars average 55-80. As for "going by the book", most here know
that I do not 100%. That is just I. I know my body, and have to do what "works".
On Fri Jan 24 15:24:29 2003 TFaith () said:
I can't imagine have an A1C down
in the range mentioned. I'm not saying it is desirable, but with the way mine
will drop, and I don't feel them coming on much any more, I think I'd be
constantly worring about lows.
I still can't get over my doctors nurse telling me to check my monitor,
because she thought the readings of 43, and 47 were wrong. She said I should
have passed out with them that low. Heck, the one I woke up with in the middle
of the night and could hardly think straight was 27, still was walking, but not
making too much sense.
I'd much rather have high readings sometimes, then low ones I don't feel
coming on.
Question, lately I have been having some pain shooting through my toes. I
know I have some neuoropthy in my toes, is this pain because of that or just
plain ole neuralgia. Any ideas?
On Fri Jan 24 13:21:34 2003 () said:
LOOK AT MARC AND JIM BEING ALL COZY
WITH EACH OTHER AFTER RUINING THIS
PLACE.................HMMMMMMM............
On Fri Jan 24 13:08:15 2003 Marc W () said:
Jim... me too man. Same problem,
that is what I mean when I say my nightime spike. Have you ever done the all
night thing, get up every hour or so to figure out when it goes up? Check this
out, I have many times, and never once did it go high or low, stays the same
throughout the night. Then, boom, 250 plus the next morning. Then 120 the
morning after that. This disease can drive you nuts.I guess we all have
different ways to deal with it, I kinda like Randy's comment. I want to live
like I want to live, deal with the highs when they come and move on.On one hand,
if I shorten my life a little but enjoy it, I am ok with that. On the other,
it's hard to argue with a guy would has had this disease for 50 years, is that
how long you have had diabetes CB?Well, take it easy everyone. It's 75 and
sunny, time to play golf!!!!!!!!! Sorry to all you guys under SNOW.
On Fri Jan 24 12:54:19 2003 . (.) said:
Either the woman who played "Mama"
or Shirley Hemphill ALSO died of diabetes several years ago.
On Fri Jan 24 12:53:32 2003 Dandy Randy () said:
Christ, a 4.4 is 76 average
BG. Give me a break already. Sounds to me like this disease has control of you
SQUATS, I want to live like I want to live, not have diabetes control my life to
the point of doing everything by the books. What fun can that be.
On Fri Jan 24 11:19:10 2003 () said:
TANK ASS
On Fri Jan 24 11:07:13 2003 Jim () said:
The problem is that 150 is not my
high reading. I wake up with 170-260. It drops off to about 100 throughout the
day. Maybe it's nothing to really worry about but it was too good for too long
and it bothers me. Marc- I agree about the old timers. Jim
On Fri Jan 24 10:58:23 2003 () said:
"Hey Hey Hey, What's Happenin'" was the
black series with Roj, Dee, Rerun and some fat chick played by Shirley Humphill
on What's Happenin'. Fat Albert used to say Hay Hay Hay, It's Faaaaaaaaaattttt
Albert.
On Fri Jan 24 10:56:47 2003 () said:
JIM 60 MIN WORKOUT EVERY 4 DAYS IS NOT
ENOUGH TO GET THE MORNING GRITS AND JELLY OFF YOUR BIG MOUTH. HI FAITH !
On Fri Jan 24 10:53:55 2003 () said:
TANK ASS
On Fri Jan 24 10:31:06 2003 Marc W () said:
Jim, sounds like you are on the
right track, hopefully things fall back into place for you. Faith, I am just
like you with the numbers. I look at 150 as ok and will bolus if I am higher,
but I DON"T knowingly go under about 110. I seem to drop from there to the 40's
in minutes without a clue that it happened. Like most on insulin for most their
lives, I don't feel low until 40 or under. What's scary for me is the memory
loss after a real bad low. My doc feels that highs take their tolls over time,
but a real low low can hurt right away cuz it causes a lack of circulation to
the brain. That's why I question a 4.9 and am blown away with CB's 4.4. I run in
the 5.8-6.2 range which I couldn't be happy with, well except for a nightime
spike every single night, but that's another story. Nice to see us oldtimes all
talking again. Take care..... Marc
On Fri Jan 24 10:11:21 2003 TFaith () said:
Jim, If I had an A1C like yours,
my lows would be having a field day. The lowest my A1C's have been is 7.6. My
doctor said he would like them down to 7, but, not much lower than that.
I'm with Marc on the 150 BG readings. When ever I am that I dodn't really
worry. My avg is usually around 155. When I go over 150, I usually start
bolusing. 1 unit for every 50 over 150. This seems to work the best for me.
I seem to react to insulin rather quickly, so I'm very cautious on how much
bolusing I do. For example last week when I was having all those lows, (43, 47,
etc.), were soon after bolusing to correct a hi reading. It just proves how one
should be very deligent in testing BG.
Have a good day every one!
On Fri Jan 24 09:47:55 2003 () said:
TANK ASS
On Fri Jan 24 09:12:58 2003 () said:
JIM 60 MIN WORKOUT EVERY 4 DAYS IS NOT
ENOUGH TO GET THE MORNING GRITS AND JELLY OFF YOUR BIG MOUTH. HI FAITH !
On Fri Jan 24 09:10:13 2003 () said:
Sorry Jim, but blubbery is as blubbery
does, I agree with Squats..you are just another fat cow husband. Have a good
day. Hi Faith !
On Fri Jan 24 09:05:44 2003 Jim () said:
Good morning everyone. Marc-
Numbers in the 150's ARE low for people that run in the 200's, but keep in mind
150's is nearly double for me after maintaining extremely tight control for 2
years. With my heart problems and severe neuropathy, I can ill afford high blood
sugars, not that anyone else can either. Squats- I have an elliptical glider
that I work out on 4 days a week, 15 - 20 minutes per workout. Been doing this
for a long time so it's not like I live a really sedentary life. Do have a
little abdominal fat and working to get rid of it. Thanks for the advice. Hi
Faith! Jim
On Fri Jan 24 04:24:01 2003 () said:
Have a good day from the so called
experts
On Fri Jan 24 04:19:12 2003 Jack Be Nimble () said:
According to all the
posts below, Neil died of all the things a diabetic should avoid. But oh well,
we all can't be perfect. Didn't Fat Albert say, HEY, HEY, HEY? Do any of you old
timers that were here when this place started, when it was a good place remember
seeing Neil post here looking for help from all you so called experts, and
caring diabetics? Squats, that 4.4 is to low, what do you think you are now?
I've talked to others that say their docs don't want them below 7.0 for fear of
losing it. They take insulin, pump action. So we are all so different with this
disease. What works for some. might not work for others. I myself would rather
hear about what doesn't work, that way I can make up my own mind. Have a good
day.
On Fri Jan 24 03:25:22 2003 Squats () said:
Marc: At one time, my A1C was
4.4, with glucose readings of 60-104. Care team was impressed, but I was
dropping muscle rapidly and experienceing weakness. I'll be getting another one
in a couple of weeks.
On Fri Jan 24 01:14:28 2003 () said:
NO STEM CELL RESEARCH !
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