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On Thu Dec 19 21:53:15 2002 grannypj (grannypj@hotmail.com) said:
interesting question down the page. Are all the CDEs women? We have yet to see one who isn't. That is not bashing women, that is stating a supposed fact. On Type II - our doctors believe obesity and lack of exercise are contributing factors but Type II Diabetes has a genetic predisposition and runs in families. To 17:33:32 "we" on this site would be hard pressed to agree if the wind was blowing in a hurricane. Nice thought but don't hold your breath! I hope Jean will quickly catch on to the site monitors who are pushing this idea or that, who delete any thought that differs from theirs. There may be a lot of craziness here but the diabetic info is honest.

On Thu Dec 19 21:26:33 2002 () said:
by by jean...

On Thu Dec 19 18:47:56 2002 jean (jboling@virtual1.net) said:
I first came to this site a few weeks ago and will be leaving. I thought we were going to discuss diabetes and find it is nothing but a forum for everything but diabetes. I have never seen such diatribes about such different topics (what does lesbianisn and Godliness have to do with helping us treat our disease?). Why don't you people write letters to the editors or find some other way to promote your agendas? It's a shame that people looking for information have to read such tripe. I'll be looking for another site where adults act like adults and leave their propaganda for others who want to read this. On other sites I have visited, there are moderators who control what is put there. I think this site needs one. So long.

On Thu Dec 19 18:28:05 2002 Squats () said:
For the info of the poster below me who seems to be unable to read, I said "Tenth AMENDMENT" not "commandment". The Constitution, which restricts the powers of Uncle Sam in all areas except for those areas authorized. It ill becomes Diabetics to demand access to the Federal trough. I do not write this in a mean spirit.

On Thu Dec 19 12:46:09 2002 () said:
CB.....WHAT IN THE WORLD DOES THE TENTH COMMANDMENT HAVE TO DO WITH SCR?????????

On Thu Dec 19 11:43:16 2002 U-100 () said:
I'd rether see nothing on here, than all that God garble. So far so good. Lets get back to the main ISSUE here, which is trying to HELP each other out.

On Wed Dec 18 19:28:29 2002 () said:
Agree with Squat if We used more prayer and Faith in God for disease control we would not need to tax ourselves blind ! Thanks Squats !

On Wed Dec 18 18:42:59 2002 Squats () said:
"Gov't funding is constitutionally allowed" Where? Only those powers SPECIFICIFALLY given to the Federal Government may be exercised by it. Constitutionally allowed? Read the Tenth Amendment. Congress may not use taxpayer funds for disease research.

On Wed Dec 18 18:39:22 2002 Squats () said:
All CDEs are not women. I saw my error in my post. thanks for pointing it out. Also, it was not my point to run any of them down. It is always easier to take short cuts. We all do it. But health requires that shortcuts be avoided. E in CDE stands for "Educator"!

On Wed Dec 18 17:33:32 2002 () said:
Write http://www.standord.edu tell them we on this site are AGINST stem cell research for any reason. LET THEM KNOW. Thank You.

On Wed Dec 18 17:26:46 2002 FDA () said:
New diabetes test approved by FDA for over the counter sales. Metrika Alc looks for levels of glycated hemoglobin to report blood glu levels over past 90-120 days. This is useful for the 17 million diabetics, most of which are type 2 caused directly by obesity and lack of exercise.

On Wed Dec 18 17:20:06 2002 Freedom from Religion Foundation (freedomfromreligion.com) said:
At this season of the Winter Solistice may reason prevail. There are no gods,no devils,no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.

On Wed Dec 18 17:15:59 2002 () said:
Squats, are all CDE's women ? You seem to run women down in many of your posts ?

On Wed Dec 18 16:36:02 2002 () said:
CB.....HOW COME YOU DONT REFUTE MY POST ON CONSTITUTION???? BECAUSE I'M RIGHT AND YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!

On Wed Dec 18 16:32:02 2002 Squats () said:
Haven't posted much about eating health recently...not too much anyway. Still reject teh idea of a standard calorie/nutrient breakdown for people. These generalities destroy health and vibrancy. A young ironworker may need 4000 calories per day with 200 grams protein if he is handling heavy steel pipe all day! I did not say "will need", since people differ. Make the CDE "earn" her keep by doing the figuring necessary to fully "customize" the meal plan to meet the needs of real life. Do not accept the textbook suggestion! Make her determine your basal metabolism rate; the minimum calories needed to keep one alive when completely still. Then, the additional proteins carbs and fats to cover activity must be figured in. Again, for optimum health, make him/her do the job. Common sense, but worth repeating.

On Wed Dec 18 16:20:35 2002 () said:
NO!!! GOVERNMENTAL FUNDING IS CONSTITUTIONALLY ALLOWED!!!!!

On Wed Dec 18 15:32:38 2002 Squats () said:
SCR: As long as it is privately funded, objections can be registered with the research institution. No taxpayers' money must go for this! Remember the Constitution. It is good to see a Diabetes-relevant post for a change. Speaking of Diabetes, got sore legs today. Did leg presses yesterday with close to 600 pounds, followed by front squats at 270. Not allowed to train upper body yet, but can gear up psychologically. Closer to std. Diabetic diet now, but have to supplement to prevent wasting away or getting blubbery. Taking essential fatty acids daily, multivitamins, lots of veggies, amino acid tabs and branched chain amino acid tabs. Those are helping on my lowered protein diet. Still into organic whole grains, brown rice, and goat milk products. To protect against colds, taking highly concentrated organic oil of oregano. It burns as it goes down, but helps greatly.

On Wed Dec 18 14:54:07 2002 WOO HOO!!!!!! A CURE COULD BE AROUND THE CORNER!!!! (DEMAND THAT YOUR CONGRESSPERSON SUPPORT SCR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) said:
Stanford University has reignited the debate over the use of stem cells with a top scientist saying the school intends to experiment with cell nuclear transfer technology, an effort many consider to be cloning. "Our avowed goal is to advance science," said Stanford medical professor Dr. Irving Weissman, who will direct the work. "For any group to stay out of the action and wait for someone else to do it because of political reasons is wrong." Much of the institute's research will be geared to treating cancer. Weissman -- and Stanford -- emphatically denied that the project involves cloning embryos. He said that the university's work would involve taking DNA from diseased adult human cells and transferring them into eggs, then growing them in the lab for a few days to produce stem cells, which many scientists believe can be used to treat myriad illnesses. "Creating human stem cell lines is not equivalent to reproductive cloning," the school said in a statement released Tuesday night. "The first step in the process of creating a stem cell line involves transferring the nucleus from a cell to an egg and allowing the egg to divide. This is the same first step as in reproductive cloning. However, in creating a stem cell line, cells are removed from the developing cluster. These cells can go on to form many types of tissue but cannot on their own develop into a human."

On Wed Dec 18 14:44:21 2002 () said:
Feel the love.

On Wed Dec 18 13:15:14 2002 () said:
Jesus loves you too!!!!

On Wed Dec 18 13:14:57 2002 () said:
And I love you 12:17:09!!!!

On Wed Dec 18 12:17:09 2002 () said:
I don't care who hates me, or loves me. All I come here for is information on diabetes, but get all this God garbage. Take it back to church, and leave it there.

On Wed Dec 18 11:53:25 2002 () said:
God loves you 11:36:58!!!!

On Wed Dec 18 11:36:58 2002 () said:
God told me to hate you

On Wed Dec 18 10:50:12 2002 () said:
God IS good.

On Wed Dec 18 03:38:16 2002 () said:
We all get what we diserve, no matter bad or good, just take it and do the very best you can with it. God is not good nor is God bad, it's just a word that has been drilled into our little heads from the day we are born. I would believe it, if someone would show me proof that it ever exsisted, until then, please keep it to yorselves and off this board

On Wed Dec 18 01:11:13 2002 () said:
Hanukkah is Jews celebrating Christs murder

On Wed Dec 18 01:05:55 2002 () said:
God's punishments are just.

On Wed Dec 18 01:02:19 2002 () said:
Crystal were you homeskooled ?

On Wed Dec 18 00:07:04 2002 () said:
YOU PEOPLE ARE ALL FUCKING NUTS, LEAVE THE GOD SHIT OFF HERE IT'S YOUR LIFE SO LIVE IT, DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH IT, GIVE IT EVERYTHING YOU GOT.

On Tue Dec 17 21:43:21 2002 crystal () said:
If we want to hear about region we will go to church. Learn to keep your oponions to yourself. We are not allowed to have region in the schools or any place else because we might affend someone's beleive's so what makes you think that you can bring it on here??

On Tue Dec 17 16:53:10 2002 () said:
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Tue Dec 17 16:48:22 2002 Sam () said:
..so...God does NOT love gays, Zionists , stem cell research, and is Someone to fear, ..what else? You speak in His name, so you should know. Let us understand the rules of this board. I don't know if I dare talk about my diabetes complications now.

On Tue Dec 17 16:35:27 2002 Sam () said:
First time I checked today..I DO write under my name...and I am not a Heathen...just not a religious poster, who declares what is right & true for all. I follow Zen, and have inner peace... that will take me through, MY WAY, to the great Light & beyond.

On Tue Dec 17 15:29:15 2002 () said:
15:28:23 = Sam

On Tue Dec 17 15:28:23 2002 () said:
religious nut chat

On Tue Dec 17 12:42:55 2002 () said:
11:36 YOU will be cast aside in the Rapture. You can only help yourself in HIS NAME.

On Tue Dec 17 11:36:19 2002 () said:
No just tolerant.

On Tue Dec 17 11:34:53 2002 () said:
9:28 ARE YOU A QUEER ?

On Tue Dec 17 09:28:48 2002 () said:
God loves everyone including the sinner (you). Peace be with you in Jesus' name.

On Tue Dec 17 09:23:25 2002 () said:
09:12 GOD does NOT love those who engage in homosexual acts. Please read the punishment Genesis 19:24-25. Please do not discuss YOUR homosexual lust on this site. This is for diabetes. Thank You in HIS NAME.

On Tue Dec 17 09:12:09 2002 () said:
That story teaches tolerance, and also with God all things are possible, That makes my diabetes better. Jesus loves you my friend.

On Tue Dec 17 09:05:06 2002 () said:
08;32 WHAT DOES YOUR LESBO LOVE STORY HAVE TO DO WITH DIABETES PLEASE EXPLAIN.

On Tue Dec 17 08:32:07 2002 What a wonderful story of tolerance and Jesus' love passing from person to person. () said:
Their story has played out like the name of a popular lesbian movie: "The Incredibly True Adventure of Two Girls in Love." It started last month, when the girls -- longtime high school sweethearts -- were voted "cutest couple" by their fellow seniors at Crete-Monee High School in the suburbs south of Chicago. This isn't 1952 anymore....If 15- and 17-year-olds are mature enough to handle this, the rest of the country can. -- Rachel Urban, 17-year-old Crete-Monee senior Administrators balked, at first. Then several students walked out of class to support the girls. It is a drama that, for a time anyway, awakened this sleepy town, lined with antique shops, churches and cafes, and still surrounded by corn fields. In the end, the girls' parents -- though a bit shell-shocked -- agreed to let a photograph of the couple appear in the school yearbook. And last week, district superintendent Roberta Berry wrote a letter praising the students at Crete-Monee High: "I am proud to say that while other schools continue to address issues such as alienation, bullying and hate crimes, we have a student body that not only accepts each others' differences, but also celebrates them." Upset, some parents and community members have called to complain and written letters to the editor of local newspapers. But others are supportive -- a sign, students say, that times are changing. "This isn't 1952 anymore. I think people need to realize there are different people everywhere," says Rachel Urban, a 17-year-old Crete-Monee senior. "If 15- and 17-year-olds are mature enough to handle this, the rest of the country can." Signs of support There are other examples of students supporting their gay, lesbian and bisexual peers. In 1999, an openly gay high school student in San Anselmo, California, was elected homecoming king. Last year, a lesbian from Ferndale, Washington, was elected king at her prom. Meanwhile, students at an increasing number of schools are forming gay-straight alliances to support one another -- and more school districts are training teachers to work with gay students. That's all happened at Waltham High School in Waltham, Massachusetts, where school nurse Nancy Ryan oversees the gay-straight alliance. Still, she says, the school has a long way to go in helping its lesbian and gay students feel safe. I think people voted for them because they're so open about their relationship -- and how good it is. -- Danielle Cheatom, a 17-year-old senior "I don't think they fear for their physical safety," she said. "But I think they still are hearing things that make them uncomfortable and make them afraid to come out." It is, for example, still common for students at many schools to use the word "gay" to describe something they don't like. And "fag" remains a common slur, teachers and students say. A 2002 report by the Gay Lesbian and Straight Education Network, a nationwide group of students, parents and teachers, notes that only nine states and the District of Columbia have some form of protection for students, based on sexual orientation and gender identity -- California, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and Wisconsin. The lack of protection, students and others say, makes it that much harder to come out. At Crete-Monee, officials and even students have chosen not to reveal the names of the "cutest couple" girls, whose parents didn't know they were dating until the vote. "The girls are understandably overwhelmed and so are their families," school district spokeswoman Sue Rossi said. Competing couples Choosing senior "bests" is a long-standing tradition for Crete-Monee seniors. Each year, they cast their votes for everyone from the "most likely to succeed" to "most likely to shock us at our reunion." While there were three or four senior couples who'd been together through a good chunk of high school, the majority voted for the girls. Classmates say it was done with sincerity. They say the girls -- popular students who are active in sports and other extracurricular activities -- can often be seen holding hands in the school's hallways. "I think people voted for them because they're so open about their relationship -- and how good it is," says Danielle Cheatom, a 17-year-old senior. "They're actually in love and care about each other." Adds Nick Renfroe, another 17-year-old senior: "They really are the cutest couple." Renfroe was among about 60 students who protested last month outside the school, fearing that administrators would withhold the girls' photo from the yearbook. Several students were suspended for two days for taking part in the protest. Maris Formas, a 17-year-old senior, says the issue brought students to the forefront who'd never been class leaders before. "The teachers are amazed at our dedication," she said. "I was, too."

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