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On Tue Nov 19 23:33:43 2002 () said:
ARYAN NATION ?
On Tue Nov 19 23:08:44 2002 () said:
If you people would get with your God
given Christian Identity all this fighting would end.
On Tue Nov 19 22:27:18 2002 Squats () said:
To 13:39, This "dufis" (sic)
reminding you that if you can afford to give, donate to a private group
researching for a cure for Diabetes. Confiscatory taxation makes that difficult
for many I know. It is not the in the gov't's power to fight disease! That is
why priovate groups exist. BTW, my political position is more Libertarian than
anything else. Diabetics must not become another special interest group.
On Tue Nov 19 22:17:47 2002 Squats () said:
Jean, it may be that some
medication you are taking is throwing the meter readings off. Check with the
maker's 800 number and/or your pharmacist.
On Tue Nov 19 20:21:35 2002 () said:
PRAY FOR WAR
On Tue Nov 19 20:15:13 2002 () said:
Hi Jean, 50-60 points is a long way
off. I think the meters are accurate to 10 percent or so...about all I could say
is try it again, your Docs meter could be dirty, not calabrated lately..or ? As
to the Glucopage, I used that also before insulin...I seem to remember it gave
me bad heartburn...
On Tue Nov 19 20:11:01 2002 () said:
JOIN THE US ARMY AND FIGHT FOR
ISREAL
On Tue Nov 19 18:12:59 2002 jean (jboling@virtual1.net) said:
i have been
taking glucotrol for about ten years. Lately, they have doubled the amount and
it still keeps going up. I cannot take Avandia or glucophage (they upset my
stomach). They told me that insulin is the next step but I cannot understand why
it has gotten out of control lately. It seems the harder I try it stays about
the same. I have also had some trouble with my monitoring device. I have
replaced it once but when I go to the doctor, their reading is always 50 or 60
points higher. I once tested my husbands blood, he went directly to his doctor
and had them check his reading and it was exactly what it had read when I
checked it at home. I am totally confused about this. Does anyone have any
suggestions?
On Tue Nov 19 15:37:19 2002 () said:
I see nobody here denies that the U.S.
is after Iraqi oil
On Tue Nov 19 14:54:31 2002 To Marc () said:
What if that's a dude you
talkin to? You into that stuff? Sick!!
On Tue Nov 19 14:50:50 2002 Marc W () said:
Ah, come on. You keep bringing
it up, there has got to be some underlying interest if you keep bringing it up.
What can I do to change your mind?
On Tue Nov 19 14:36:54 2002 () said:
NOT IN YOUR WILDEST DREAMS........
On Tue Nov 19 13:59:25 2002 Marc W () said:
12:51, was that an offer of some
sort?
On Tue Nov 19 13:39:39 2002 () said:
SQUATS YOU SOUND LIKE ONE OF THOSE WAR
MONGERING REPUGLICANS......YOU SHOULD TELL YOUR PREZ TO KEEP FIGHTING THE WAR ON
TERROR,THE WAR ON DRUGS,AND LEAVE IRAQI OIL ALONE. THEN HE WOULD HAVE TIME TO
FIGHT THE WAR ON DISEASE YOU MORON........ NO,HE HAS TOO MANY PACS TO KEEP HAPPY
SO HIM AND HIS CRONIES CAN LIVE HIGH ON THE HOG!!!!!!!!DUFIS!!!!!
On Tue Nov 19 13:09:48 2002 Squats () said:
Thanks for the post on the
current status of stem cell research! We cannot constitutionally demand "A CURE,
NOT WAR!" The Federal Gov't's foremost purpose is National Defense. We cannot
put other needs ahead of it. As one has said, "borders, language, and culture."
Failure to protect national sovereignty will destroy us just as socialism
destroyed the British Empire. Those of us who can contribute to research ought
to.
On Tue Nov 19 12:51:20 2002 () said:
MAY BE A PLAY ON SPELLING IGNORANT
MARC......REPUGNANT REPUBLICAN....GET IT???????? AND MARC PLEASE DONT FORGET
ABOUT LEATHER BONDAGE AND DISCIPLINE EQUIPMENT..........I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN.......
On Tue Nov 19 12:47:51 2002 Marc W () said:
Dear 11:27, I for one support
any and ALL stem cell research, as do some others here. Don't speak for us,
thank you. I also support the right to eat a big juicy steak if I so want to,
and carry a leather wallet, wear a leather coat and buy my wife a fur coat if it
wasn't 90 degrees right now. As Faith said, this is MY preference, to each his
own. And since when is there a g in republican? If I posted that there would be
atleast 5 spelling correction posts! Take care and enjoy....... Marc
On Tue Nov 19 11:27:23 2002 () said:
Faith, we do not support stem cell
reasearch here. Please do not push it here. Thank you.
On Tue Nov 19 10:15:27 2002 SAY WHAT???? () said:
FAITH WHAT IF THE MOTHER
WAS RAPED AND SHE DECIDED TO KEEP THE PREGNANCY BUT THE BABY WAS
STILLBORNED?????
On Tue Nov 19 10:09:44 2002 () said:
so...........you accept a repuglican
led war.....but not the cells from a baby that has been
aborted....hmmmmmmm....lets see.....can you say HYPOCRITE????????.......one
other thing......if you supposedly are to accept things as they are like a good
little christian.....why do you have so much cosmetic sergery and mess with gods
temple???????????????
On Tue Nov 19 09:44:35 2002 Faith () said:
15:43:00 - ANY TIME someone uses
my name to try to start trouble, I WILL post that was not me!!
RE: Stem cell therapy! Recently my nephew who was paralyzed in a motorcycle
accident, went to the Ukraine, and received stem cell treatment. (Was NOT
aborted babies!) It has been reported that Christopher Reeve has also had this
treatment! There is 'some' sensation coming back to his (my nephew)legs, but it
is really too early to tell.
I do see that there is a possible treatment here for us, (diabetics), but as
I said before, I would only consent to it if the cells came from the umbillical
cord, of a live birth. That is MY preference, to each his own!
On Tue Nov 19 09:06:31 2002 CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND DEMAND SUPPORT FOR
SCR!!!!!!! (WE DEMAND A CURE,NOT WAR!!!!!!!!!!) said:
In a possible step
toward a new treatment for diabetics, embryonic stem cells were used to produce
insulin and keep diabetic mice alive. Researchers cautioned that the technique
was not yet ready for testing in humans. The researchers at Stanford University
nurtured mouse embryonic stem cells until they developed into a tissue that made
insulin. Then they put the tissue into diabetic mice and showed that the animals
were sustained with the insulin produced by the tissue graft. Ingrid C.
Rulifson, a first author of the study appearing this week in the Proceedings of
the National Academy of Sciences, said the research did not grow fully mature,
insulin-producing pancreatic islets, which are called beta cells. "We've made
something that shares several important properties with the beta cells, but we
have not made beta cells," said Rulifson. "We believe this is the furthest
anyone has gone (in making insulin-producing cells from embryonic stem cells).
The fact that we were able to achieve rescue survival in these mice hasn't been
demonstrated before in this way." Dr. Robert Goldstein, chief scientific officer
for the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation International, said the Stanford
finding is "a significant advance" in diabetes research using embryonic stem
cells, but he said it will have no immediate human application. "The principle
of being able to take embryonic stem cells and reverse diabetes is an extremely
important observation," said Goldstein. He said ultimately researchers hope to
use embryonic stem cells to make new beta cells that could be transplanted into
diabetics and produce normal levels of insulin. He called the Stanford study
"one of the necessary steps toward achieving this goal," but emphasized that the
next steps -- translating the mouse data into human therapy -- can be a long and
difficult process taking many years. "We can't fix people tomorrow," said
Goldstein. Embryonic stem cells are the ancestral cells from which all the
tissue in the body develops. Scientists believe that if they can learn how to
direct the transformation of embryonic stem cells they will be able to grow
fresh, new cells to replace those that have died or stopped functioning. This
could cure some diseases. Some forms of diabetes are caused by the death or
malfunctioning of the pancreatic islet beta cells that make insulin, a hormone
essential for regulating sugar in the blood. Some researchers hope to use human
embryonic stem cells to grow new beta cells, which could then be grafted into
diabetic patients to normalize the metabolism of sugar. In the Stanford study,
researchers used special chemicals to cause mouse embryonic stem cells to
transform into cell masses that resembled pancreatic islets. Test-tube
experiments showed that the cells made insulin. The researchers then used
chemicals to kill the beta cells in a group of laboratory mice. This, in effect,
turned the mice into diabetics. The scientists then grafted some of the
insulin-producing tissue into the animals. The transplanted tissue made insulin,
responding to the levels of sugar in the blood stream of the mice, and kept the
mice alive. Stem cells are master cells that have the ability to differentiate
into other cell types, including those in the brain, heart, bones, muscles and
skin. Control mice, which had diabetes but did not receive the graft, died. But
the test mice survived. To prove that it was the transplanted tissue that was
making the insulin, the researchers removed the grafts after three weeks. The
mice soon died from an excess sugar in the blood. "At least for a short period,
we extended the life of these animals convincingly and showed that upon removal
of the graft the animals suffered severe relapse of the disease," said Seung K.
Kim, a Stanford researcher and senior author of the study. Kim said that the
transplanted tissue produced insulin at only 10 percent to 12 percent of the
levels in normal mice and did not produce some of the other hormones or factors
made by the normal beta cell. "This is one step in the right direction," said
Kim, but he added that before human diabetics can be treated with tissue from
embryonic stem cells, "we have a long way to go."
On Mon Nov 18 15:43:00 2002 SURE FAITH......AFTER YOU........... () said:
On
Fri Nov 15 10:28:09 2002 Faith () said: Marc, I did not post that last one with
my name on it. I did not ask for you to email me! It's the AP'ers playing their
stupid games!
On Mon Nov 18 15:42:51 2002 () said:
Jim do you speak for just yourself or
everybody ? Please explain better. What about your heart attack post ? Why do
you intrude on us that do not care about your heart attack ?
On Mon Nov 18 15:39:15 2002 () said:
14;31 would you rewrite your post
please. I don't remember ever hearing that people who choose to be members of a
organization are employees. Please let us know where you found that
information.
On Mon Nov 18 15:10:21 2002 Faith () said:
Could we meat eaters, and all you
vegan's agree to disagree and go back to talking about diabetes?
This is getting very old and boring!
So, can we get back to diabetes, and diabetes related topics?
Pretty Please????
On Mon Nov 18 14:31:22 2002 (:) () said:
It has been established in our
courts for years that an employer is responsible for his employees actions while
on the job. Does PETA accept esponsiblilty for all their members actions when
they represent PETA? Do they do any thing to refute the actions of their lunatic
fringe. Do they do any thing to put some distance between them and the actions
of the nut cases in their organization. I have not seen any such actions.
On Mon Nov 18 13:40:10 2002 Jim () said:
That's the problem with PETA
people. You always go uninvited to where you're not wanted, preaching things
that most people don't want to hear or care about, lots of time breaking the law
to get your point across. None of us signed up for your PETA newsletter. Why
don't you give it a rest? Jim
On Mon Nov 18 13:07:49 2002 Peta (Peta.org) said:
Read on line Peta's Animal
Tines Holiday issue "Beating Diabetes with Diet" , also Neal Barnard,MD artical
on colorrectal cancer " "If beef is your idea of real food for real people
,you'd better live close to a real good hospital" Also, look at Peta
investigations on PETAtv.com
On Mon Nov 18 09:46:54 2002 Jim () said:
All diabetics or heart attack
victims should read the story at the following link. Jim
http://www.msnbc.com/news/836311.asp
On Mon Nov 18 00:13:25 2002 grannypj (grannypj@hotmail.com) said:
sorry to
disappoint anyone but no, I am not a Democrat. I am also not a Republican nor a
member of an organized Independent Party. I split the ticket according to the
quality of the individuals running. I live in a state predominantly Republican
but some of the Congressmen are Democrats, one Senator is a Democrat and so is
the new Governor. May the best man/woman win and if that doesn't happen there is
always the next election.....
On Sun Nov 17 23:52:41 2002 () said:
Granny stop play democrat.
On Sun Nov 17 20:14:10 2002 () said:
DAMM DOG BITME YA KNOW
On Sun Nov 17 20:11:11 2002 () said:
MY DADDY USED TO GET CAT POISON AT THE
FARM AND FLEET STORE WHEN WE LIVED AT THE FARM.
On Sun Nov 17 20:09:21 2002 () said:
Granny are YOU the Democrat that keeps
causing trouble here ?
On Sun Nov 17 19:57:45 2002 Squats () said:
I will not debate this one,
since it is a no-brainer. Weight training IS diabetes related, since it
increases metabolic rate and lowers blood sugar. I will not bother with certain
cases where a diabetic ought not to lift; that must be discussed with a
competent kinesiologist/trainer. Same with dietary adjustments; those are
individual issues. It is enough to say that playing Democrat and scaring people
is inane!
On Sun Nov 17 19:52:28 2002 Squats () said:
Grannypj: There is a vegan radio
program I listen to from time to time and I don't hear much moderation there.
However, someone who would club puppies and throw them in the trash deserves to
go to jail. Same with abuse of cats. At the same time, red meat, poultry, and
fish are legit sources of proteins our bodies need and cannot manufacture. In
the absence of that, it must be asked "Protein powder, anyone?" If anyone here
feels a vegan diet will help diabetes control, see your CDE first, then ask
him/her about JUDICIOUS use of amino acid caps to provide what the all plant
diet cannot.
On Sun Nov 17 18:32:40 2002 () said:
AND NOOKIE TOO
On Sun Nov 17 17:54:12 2002 () said:
and witches, warlocks, pagans,
religionists, atheists, jew haters, catholic lovers,rednecks,satan worshipers,
chat devils, whiners, muslims, and pay for view wrestlers.
On Sun Nov 17 16:39:36 2002 () said:
that's right! Everything is on this
board but diabetes!
On Sun Nov 17 14:10:45 2002 () said:
and religion, peta, meateaters,
weightlifting,KKK, and gay pride.
On Sun Nov 17 11:17:45 2002 mandy () said:
I think you have all forgotten
that this is a forum for "DIABETES".
On Sun Nov 17 10:58:38 2002 () said:
inadequate intellect
On Sun Nov 17 00:55:02 2002 () said:
numquat
On Sun Nov 17 00:54:25 2002 () said:
raghead
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