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On Tue Sep 24 23:59:02 2002 () said:
Squats you should read what Faith and the Baptists have to say about you Jews and your half-bible.

On Tue Sep 24 23:57:04 2002 () said:
now we have to use taxpayer money to send troops to that school in the Congo to protect the Baptists that are over there sticking their noses in trying to ram religion down those peoples throats. Their churches pay no takes, they should get a bill or have to pray their way out !

On Tue Sep 24 23:49:14 2002 () said:
Faith how much do you weigh ?

On Tue Sep 24 23:35:43 2002 Squats () said:
Faith, stand your ground! Obviously few here can discuss anything with reason. It looks like you and I are the only sensible ones (with a couple of others) who still come here.

On Tue Sep 24 21:25:05 2002 () said:
Faith there may be a chat devil on your head !

On Tue Sep 24 20:45:45 2002 () said:
WHATEVER FAITH

On Tue Sep 24 19:11:31 2002 Fath () said:
HOW DARE YOU tell me that what I'm doing is is against God our Saviour!!Give me a break.A little nip and tuck here and there is nothing thank you very much.Sheesh!!Honey,try it you might like it and MYOB!!!LOL LOL LOL.BTW,I WILL not be in the line if the cure comes from SCR using babies.Only the good Lord can decide if I'm worthy enough for a cure without doing that.

On Tue Sep 24 18:56:52 2002 () said:
Faith before you deprive your family of much needed money by your self-indulgence read again Isaiah 32:9-11, and that you are being made weak by acceptance of Satan Gensis 3:1-6, 2- Corinthians 11-3, Timothy 2:14, please reconsider what you are about to do in the Light of Our Lords Vision !

On Tue Sep 24 18:56:15 2002 Squats () said:
No! I am saying the dietary breakdown necessary to effectively lose "bodyfat' versus weight is not safe for diabetics, as are protein powders to increase protein. I am NOT pushing these. BTW, please drop the word "chemical". I am tired of saying amino acid chains are FOOD. It's just diabetics must restrict protein. How far is debatable, but the general principle holds. I used the "zone diet" at 2000 calories to illustrate a regimen that, with lifting and cardiovascular training, can drop bodyfat. But many diabetics cannot use it. I would very much appreciate my posts being cited accurately, Thank you.

On Tue Sep 24 18:55:33 2002 () said:
Faith before you deprive your family of much needed money by your self-indulgence read again Isaiah 32:9-11, and that you are being made weak by acceptance of Satan Gensis 3:1-6, 2- Corinthians 11-3, Timothy 2:14, please reconsider what you are about to do in the Light of Our Lords Vision !

On Tue Sep 24 18:42:22 2002 () said:
Squats means that to lost weight you must use the chemical supplements he pushes and endanger your kidneys.

On Tue Sep 24 18:40:34 2002 () said:
"kidney concerns prevent diabetics from getting rid of bodyfat' quote from Squats...now what is that supposed to mean ?

On Tue Sep 24 18:16:38 2002 () said:
Yea Faith..spend the money on couple of black crack babies...what kind of christian are you ?

On Tue Sep 24 18:14:03 2002 () said:
Religion is for making money and giving religious guilt

On Tue Sep 24 18:12:17 2002 () said:
God told me to hate you

On Tue Sep 24 18:11:48 2002 () said:
Faith back to DHD with your religious ranting, or did they chase you over here ?

On Tue Sep 24 17:00:40 2002 () said:
Hey Faith, what gives you the right to accuse me of being bitter? I'm brittle, or so I was told many years ago. They kicked me out of church for not giving enough money, not that I'm bitter towards anyone, so get off your god trip. I didn't have the money I do now. I wouldn't go back if they paid me. It's all just a big story book, something to put fear in all of you who believe. I'm not afraid of dieing, I do not need forgiveness for all that I have done or said, maybe you do. I found something much more important to me, to give my money to. When there is a cure, I bet your sweet ass you'll be first in line.

On Tue Sep 24 16:40:56 2002 Fath () said:
God did not give you diabetes.Maybe you couldn't get along with the people in church because you were a bitter diabetic,I don't know but you shouldn't blame the Lord our God.A better attitude would have went a long way.Abortion is an abomination as are people who support it!!You have your opinion and I have mine.Still can't get my BG down for my surgery tomorrow.Oh well!!!More of the normal things with this 'lovely' disease!!! LOL LOL

On Tue Sep 24 16:29:23 2002 () said:
Faith, I've seen the light, or what I have left in my vision because of diabetes. I was kicked out of church for not giving enough money, so what kind of god would do that to a person? You can keep giving all you want to your false preachers. I'll give to Stem Cell Research to help find a cure. Maybe some day, the light will shine on your thick head

On Tue Sep 24 16:05:15 2002 Squats () said:
I weigh 157, and am not obese! BMI will only work for the sedentary. I know people with less than 10% bodyfat at 5'8" and 250 lbs. Obese? No! I am sure no one on this board (me included) has less than ten percent bodyfat. Muscle is 5x heavier than fat. Being diabetic, I cannot follow a dietary regimen to get bodyfat that low. I know what it would take. Unfortunately, what passes for "weight loss" here is actually MUSCLE loss. But kidney concerns prevent diabetics in general from getting rid of bodyfat. The zone diet 40-40-20 is good, but not for us. On 2000 calories, that would be 200gm protein, 200 gm carbs. 46gm fat. I haven't seen "Ahhnold" recently, so I can't comment. However, you have to distinguish between bodyfat weight and muscle weight. If not, it is very possible to be at "proper" weight, but still obese, i.e. with a high bodyfat percentage.

On Tue Sep 24 14:06:07 2002 () said:
WHY DON'T YOU PUT OFF THE TUMMY TUCK AND FANNY LIFT AND SPEND THE MONEY ADOPTING A COUPLE OF KIDS FROM THE ORPHANAGE???????

On Tue Sep 24 13:37:32 2002 () said:
Too much sex is the same as too much religion , neither is good for the Earth.....get the idea Faith...'go forth and multiply' and kill off everybody else that does not follow your god, or any god...go back to DHD with your preaching.

On Tue Sep 24 13:12:36 2002 Fath () said:
12:19 and 11:47,God put people on the Earth to go forth,multiply,and rejoice in His good name.ALL abortion is wrong and someday,oh someday,maybe yule see the light.Sooooooo, on to other news,I'm getting a tummy tuck and fanny lift tomorrow but am concerned about my BG levels pre-surgery.LOL LOL LOL

On Tue Sep 24 12:19:55 2002 () said:
I totally agree with 11:47:11, Lets all join the wagon and help with this wonderful research. Your so called god,does want this to happen. There are to many people in this world the way it is. Why don't those so called anti-abortion people addopt all the babies that are up for abortion? Faith, Tevas sucks, so does Squirts, may many a weights fall on his pee brain and crush his egoed fat head, by the way Squirts, what is your weight?

On Tue Sep 24 11:47:11 2002 () said:
I for one am thrilled!!! Now maybe the bleeding heart conservatives can find something else to whine about so that we can continue to the cure!!!!!!

On Tue Sep 24 11:35:44 2002 () said:
May the Wrath of God fall on the people that allowed this to happen .

On Tue Sep 24 10:36:25 2002 YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! () said:
SACRAMENTO, Calif., Sept. 22 - Gov. Gray Davis signed legislation Sunday to allow embryonic stem cell research in the state, a direct contradiction of federal limits on the research. Davis has said the legislation is essential to keep California at the forefront of medical research

On Tue Sep 24 10:25:58 2002 Faith () said:
23:34:34. Uh oh, now you've done it! Haven't you heard, DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!

On Tue Sep 24 09:31:08 2002 () said:
Squats, according to the NIH, Arnold Swartzenegger is OBESE! As well as Michael Keaton, Michael Douglas, Sharon Stone, etc. Almost 50% of Hollywood stars, Miss America contestants, etc. are OBESE according to this report. Now you are back to bashing CDEs. Maybe your diet of death works for you, but it may not be what works for EVERYONE.

On Tue Sep 24 09:18:17 2002 Squats () said:
Post below was not mine!!!!! The 49% figure is terrible, to say the least. The figures for men are little better. Judging by Forecast Mag info, it is not possible to be both diabetic and fit. It isn't! Self absorbed? I hardly think so. But then again, it is easy to attack when you don't address any of the issues raised in the post you attack!!! That always happens here. Faith gets attacked, Jim gets attacked,Marc gets attacked, I get attacked. 'bye!

On Tue Sep 24 08:57:14 2002 Squats () said:
Remember 48% of American women over age 29 are obese. Quoted from NIH report 8/02.

On Tue Sep 24 08:31:59 2002 . (.) said:
CB: if you had any clue was a self-absorbed asshole you are, you wouldn't even open your mouth. I'd give anything for those damn weights to fall on your fat head and crush your ego.

On Tue Sep 24 08:16:29 2002 Squats () said:
Isn't "Diabetic Athlete" an oxymoron? An article in Forecast some time ago about the "inner athlete" seemed to say as much! After all, non diabetics eat better and train harder. The sedentary type diabetic diet, lacking in macro and micro nutrients won't work for those who would compete athletically. Now walking up to the platform, the diabetic powerlifter to deadlift 470 pou,,,Uh oh, he can't budge the weight. His training diet of 1800 calories lost him strength. Embarrassed the former lifter goes home. Score one for the CDE! Another athlete destroyed. Seriously, diabetics can't do whatever they want sports wise. Their diets are geared toward muscle wasting and loss of strength. Therefore, a diabetic "athlete" will always be second rate, unless he or she does it right. In part that means making sure that protein goes to build and maintain lean tissue, not used for energy as the ignorant writer said. Carbs and fats should go for energy, exclusively. Sadly, when you are behind the times, you do not know any better. Same ol same ol! Carb and fat load. I wish that mag would get better writers. I guess being diabetic means I cannot be fit. I am sick of this foolishness. I do not for a moment believe any of this is tested on a real person. They would have to go a different direction after seeing some athletes destroyed. They wouldn't though! Hey! How about arm curls with a roll of tp? Oooooooooooooooooh! That is intense.

On Mon Sep 23 23:34:34 2002 () said:
Hey Faith, When the movie cooms out, make sure you get front row seats, aren't those saved for the handicapped, and mental people in your town, in that crappie state of Texas?

On Mon Sep 23 16:02:46 2002 () said:
Get a grip!!!Get a grip!!!Get a grip!!! Get a grip!!! Get a grip!!! Get a grip!!!Get a grip!!!Get a grip!!!

On Mon Sep 23 14:07:34 2002 Faith () said:
13:07:26 & 13:13:52, My, My! aren't we touchy! I don't remember cramming anything down your throat! Just stated my opinion as you did. SHUT UP!!!! Didn't say a word, just typed it! Get a grip!!!

On Mon Sep 23 13:07:26 2002 () said:
FAITH YOU COME ON HERE AND SHOVE YOUR OPINION DOWN OUR THROATS AND WE CAN'T OFFER OUR????????? TO HECK WITH YOU!!!!!!!!

On Mon Sep 23 12:41:48 2002 () said:
baby killers

On Mon Sep 23 12:29:13 2002 () said:
WHATEVER

On Mon Sep 23 12:07:19 2002 Faith () said:
11:58:11 - Your theory sounds like a poor script for a bad movie.

On Mon Sep 23 11:58:11 2002 () said:
You tell em Faith, I sure hope that your nephew gets the treatment, and it works well for him. The stem cell research is the best thing going at this time for a normal life for all of us. If I had my way I'd make lots of babies and have them aborted for the sake of helping others live a normal life. God wants it that way.

On Mon Sep 23 11:45:23 2002 Faith () said:
10:22:02 - Hey, don't get yourself so worked up! You have your opinion and I have mine. You are shouting at us, you shouldn't get too excited, you might have a stroke!

10:45:27 - you are so wrong! Why don't you give it a rest too!


On Mon Sep 23 10:45:27 2002 () said:
!):21 is all a Goverment lie, they all come from killed babies. Jesus Rest Society.

On Mon Sep 23 10:22:02 2002 () said:
WHAT THE HELL IS THE BIG DEAL IF THEY ARE FROM ABORTED BABIES????????? THE KEY WORD IS ABORTED!!!!! WHY NOT HAVE SOMETHING GOOD COME FROM SOMETHING TERRIBLE?????? YOU RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITES WOULD BE THE FIRST IN LINE FOR THE CURE IF IT CREATED ONE SO SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Mon Sep 23 09:58:28 2002 Faith () said:
STR...Speaking of this, my nephew who was paralyzed a couple of years ago, is leaving today for the Ukraine. There he will receive three injections into his spine of stem cells. (BTW, they are NOT from aborted babies!) I surely hope this works for him, and pray to that end, but, I hope he hasn't gotten his hopes up for nothing.

On Mon Sep 23 04:52:27 2002 () said:
There are religionists on here that do not want STR and would rather you die for God.

On Sun Sep 22 23:47:07 2002 Squats () said:
RE foot creams, what's wrong with Nivea? Also, certain fats help with skin dryness, namely flaxseed! I have not found overpriced "diabetic" products to be worth the price. BTW, I do check my feet daily and use lotions to keep the skin on the feet moist. After cellulitis, I don't dare fail in this area.

On Sun Sep 22 23:21:18 2002 () said:
Let's talk about stem cell research, who's to stop us?

On Sun Sep 22 23:19:30 2002 () said:
I support stem cell research, the sooner the better.We will all be better off in the long run. Keep up the good WORK. Three Cheers

On Sun Sep 22 23:18:32 2002 () said:
Why can't we talk about stem cells on here ? Strange rule I think.

On Sun Sep 22 23:16:15 2002 () said:
thats nice

On Sun Sep 22 22:23:00 2002 () said:
I went to the search engine "google" and looked up Diapedic Foot Cream and came up with a site for Anastasia Marie Laboratories and discovered that they have a number of products specificly for diabetics that look interesting.

On Sun Sep 22 22:15:04 2002 () said:
mark

On Sun Sep 22 19:28:32 2002 Squats () said:
Organ Transplant support...Thanks ofr the info. If and only if the Food and Drug Administration does its job, and if this is workable in human beings, many lives could be saved amd quality of life raised. Thanks again!

On Sun Sep 22 19:24:05 2002 () said:
Pam I use Keri Lotion, you can find it in the diabetic supply section, also Avon Moisture Therapy Lipid Complex is great. Both are somewhat expensive but work well.

On Sun Sep 22 14:32:57 2002 () said:
Pam, are a lot of those today, you can pick up a issue of Diabetic Magazine at your local bookstore and you will find all kinds of ads that will help you. Also, going to any pharmacy and asking will help you also, I use some stuff I get at Walmart but I can't think of the name right now....

On Sun Sep 22 12:38:07 2002 Pam (j-p.attbi.com) said:
I am inquiring about a medicine which is suppose to be for diabedics. It is a foot creme and was wondering if anyone knows about it. I am inquiring for my sister. Her doctor has never heard of it. Does anyone know about Diapedic Pure Skin Therapy? It is a foot creme.

On Sun Sep 22 08:38:03 2002 () said:
To: 21:23:15 Thanks for the information but we do not talk about Stem Cell Research on this place. WE ALL care about unborn life on here. Thank you anyway.

On Sun Sep 22 00:04:27 2002 () said:
Hey Squirts Looking for trouble?

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