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On Sat Jul 27 21:08:08 2002 () said:
I have talk to many DE educators and they tell to talk to my doctor, who's not to good. Are you a diabetic? iF SO WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME FROM EXPERIENCE (Thurman)?

On Sat Jul 27 21:05:02 2002 () said:
Is any one can tell what to do when i take to much insuilin

On Sat Jul 27 20:56:43 2002 () said:
Thurman, you need to talk to a Diabetic Educator to get your meals and food choices looked at. Any Hosp should have a DE you can contact. I would think that will take care of your problems.

On Sat Jul 27 20:52:12 2002 Thurman (lbcwthurman@yahoo.com) said:
I feel like i'm taking to much insulin Istarted out taking 7 g's of insilin once a day and i was alright. Then i'm now taking 15 before breakfast and in the evening. I was told by my doctor over the phone to take more if my sugars gets higher. Anyway I stay sick i'm dizzy although. I take the delay kind (NPH)I have only been taking it over a year. I need some advice, Please don't talk to my Doctor. I'm SEEING A Nurse Practictioner who really don't know. What do I do.

On Sat Jul 27 19:49:24 2002 () said:
Hi Sarah, Paxil is a good choice, is one of the newer class of drugs. Many people on here, wheather they admit it or not are on treatment for depression. It takes couple weeks to have any effect. Your family and friends will see a difference before you will.

On Sat Jul 27 15:55:19 2002 Sarah () said:
Hi, I'm diabetic and on insulin. I've recently been put on Paxil for depression and was wondering, is it a goood choice or are there drugs out there that might be better for me?

On Sat Jul 27 12:27:50 2002 () said:
Gee Thanks Herb ! What would we do without you !

On Sat Jul 27 11:42:25 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
I'm sorry but I don't have computer problems. Norton's is doing a beutiful job of catching these viruses and quarantining them. I just thought that I would warn all of you. Herb (Bear)

On Sat Jul 27 11:11:58 2002 () said:
Jim is sending the virus Blue Water Vending is his son's water company.

On Sat Jul 27 11:10:07 2002 () said:
Herb we really do not care about your computer problems this is a diabetic site , go back to DHD with your virus problems.

On Sat Jul 27 10:34:51 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Make it 8 times, info@whittingtontile&stone and sm77@mail.csuchico.edu Herb (Bear)

On Sat Jul 27 01:19:01 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Make it 6 times. This one was from yoo@hotmail.com. By the way Klez is spelled with a z not an s. Herb (Bear)

On Fri Jul 26 23:42:56 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
I have received the Kles virus 5 times in the last few hours. I received it twice from the same E-mail address (Blue Water Vending) within 5 minutes of each other. The other addresses were TeeGee, MBat, and I don't remember the fifth one. The Norton's anti Virus program we put on here recently caught all of them so I could quarantine and delete them. Becky said that I should let all of you know just in case it is coming from a server that we all use on this site. THANKS!! Herb (Bear)

On Fri Jul 26 17:49:07 2002 () said:
i luv fath

On Fri Jul 26 15:34:31 2002 () said:
Tom, you're getting boring!!!!!

On Fri Jul 26 15:33:26 2002 () said:
See there Faith is being bad. Now she with go to DHD and be sweet as pie.

On Fri Jul 26 15:28:43 2002 Faith () said:
Tom, you're getting boring!!!!!

On Fri Jul 26 15:28:32 2002 () said:
Sorry Faith you are wrong, I never posted anything here from DHD. I always thought even in spite of our differences you had more class than name calling.

On Fri Jul 26 15:13:21 2002 () said:
Faith goes to DHD when she wants to be nice. Then she comes here to show her bad bad side.

On Fri Jul 26 15:08:50 2002 () said:
AKA BIG BUTT

On Fri Jul 26 14:41:24 2002 FROM FAITHS POST (SEARGENT FAITH THAT IS.....AKA BIG BUTCH!!!!!!!!) said:
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On Fri Jul 26 14:32:21 2002 () said:
FAITH YOU ARE NOT A MODERATOR ON HERE.........DONT COME HERE AND GIVE ORDERS CHUBBY....................PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!

On Fri Jul 26 14:28:37 2002 () said:
I HAD A BAD LOW ONCE WHEN I SAW A UGLY SNAGGLETOOTH WITCH ON HERE!!!!!!!!!!

On Fri Jul 26 14:07:01 2002 Faith () said:
Tom, are you having fun?? I sure hope so, it would be ashame for you to stir all this up, after coming to DHD and leaving again, and not have any fun with it. As Jim said, you are pathetic. And Yes, anyone can come in to DHD and leave, just don't do it just to see if you can copy something from there and post it here. Get back to talking about diabetes and get a life!!

On Fri Jul 26 13:59:26 2002 () said:
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On Fri Jul 26 12:41:12 2002 () said:
test

On Fri Jul 26 12:36:07 2002 . (.) said:
Herb: Don't you have far more important things to be concerned about? I can't believe that with all that is happening with your family, you choose to focus your attention anywhere other than your daughters...oh well, your choice. I can understand the need for a diversion, but still......

On Fri Jul 26 12:30:37 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Let's see if we can analyze this situation. On the one hand we have a man who identifies himself and flatly states the no one has been asked to leave the DHD site by a moderator or the owner who are the only ones with the authority to ask any one to leave. He openly says that any statement to the contrary is a bald faced lie. Now on the other hand we have a poster who hides behind the cloak of anonymity (SP) while claiming receipt of a letter asking him/her to leave DHD while so admirably protecting the identity of this anonymous requester. Go figure?? Herb (Bear)

On Fri Jul 26 11:58:29 2002 () said:
Gee Faith, we thought people were welcome to take a look at your site and stay or leave as they wished...? Now you are on Tom for taking a look...or is it the religion issue ?

On Fri Jul 26 11:47:27 2002 () said:
So, Jim, caught in the act again and now you slink away in shame and guilt. We feel sorry for you ... always trying to be the center of attention and always managing to get caught in your lies and deceit. Whatever... hope you and yours have a CALM, non-profanity filled weekend (is that possible, Jumbo?)

On Fri Jul 26 11:41:37 2002 Jim () said:
I won't reply to you again today. Your post is trash, just like you. Also, not angry. Just feel sorry for you and your pathetic life. Jim

On Fri Jul 26 10:57:49 2002 () said:
There you go again, Jim, with the profanity. Seems like you cannot control your anger. So sad. Anyway, why are you continuing to stir the pot? We know you are still a member of DHD although you don't post anything (at least nothing of value -- which is sort of similar to what you do here!). So who's the real idiot? Looks like it is you for trying to stir up problems again. Sounds like you're the AP on here trying to start problems by posting to tell people to join DHD. Sounds like you're the AP trying to bring this place down. That would follow your standard operating procedure: create something, bail out, blame others, cuss and fuss, then start all over somewhere else.

On Fri Jul 26 10:41:23 2002 Jim () said:
I didn't stir the pot you idiot. Someone posted that I got booted. Faith posted that no one was booted or asked to leave. I said I left on my own or did I leave?. It was/is really none of your damned business, so you'll have to guess. There. I hope you can asborb that and understand. If you can't understand it now, go ask one of your pets. They'll get it. Get a life you boob! Jim

On Fri Jul 26 10:10:53 2002 () said:
Faith, why not ask JIM to give up his "stirring the pot" with his post (maybe I left, maybe I didn't). While you are at it, why not ask all the DHD members to quit stirring the pot here.

On Fri Jul 26 09:40:06 2002 Faith () said:
Let me re-phrase this, IF, and that is a big if, anyone was asked to leave, I'm not aware of it. I'm sure if they were by the owner or one of moderators, I would have been told. So Tom, give it up already!!!!

On Fri Jul 26 09:38:05 2002 Faith () said:
I never said anything in my previous message no one was ever asked to leave over a religious issue. I just said Jim wasn't asked to leave. Tom why do you keep coming to the DHD site almost day in and day out then leave again. If that isn't someone looking for a reason to stir up trouble, I don't know what is.

On Fri Jul 26 08:53:01 2002 () said:
Jim, were you lying then or are you lying now? Please note: On Thu Jul 25 14:56:14 2002 Jim () said: Thanks Faith for clearing that up. They're just trying to create controversy where there is none. AP'ers- I left on my own. Or did I? How could you AP'ers possibly know what my yahoo name is? It's a nice club, and all of you should try it out. Have a good day, Jim

On Fri Jul 26 08:38:08 2002 Jim () said:
Good morning everyone. Not that I HAVE to explain this, but my yahoo handle is brownsin02. Feel free to join DHD to see that I AM there. DHD is a group of very nice, decent people, and don't deserve your assault attempts. Jim

On Fri Jul 26 02:12:45 2002 () said:
Oh yes.....Please Note !

On Fri Jul 26 02:10:46 2002 () said:
Sorry Herb that mail was for me alone, I respect that persons reasons for telling me to leave and am not going to allow you to try and defend yourself by making it public. You sound guilty by being the big loud one shouting to support your DHD group. Why don't you go back there and mutter your religious nonsense where it is accepted.

On Thu Jul 25 23:41:06 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Please note that I am not afraid to state who I am nor what is true and untrue. With regards to the accusations that any one has been asked to leave DHD for any reason let alone religious reasons is a bald faced lie. If you care to counter this with some sort of fact instead of garbage I suggest you cut and paste the COMPLETE E-mail message asking any one to leave and post it here. Herb (Bear)

On Thu Jul 25 22:20:56 2002 () said:
Faith, I was one that took exception to the religious bent of DHD and I was asked in a off list email to leave as it was a Christian directed group.....so please do not state on here that no one was asked to leave over the religion issue. Had you stated in the group goals that DHD was a Bible based group I would have never joined.So at least be honest. It would have saved some bad feelings about DHD.

On Thu Jul 25 16:53:15 2002 () said:
CB, one of the reasons you get "attacked" is that you seem unwilling to admit that others who have differing views than you hold can also be just as right as you are! You seem to imply that you are the fountain of all knowledge, wisdom and understanding about diabetes and everyone else is just plain WRONG. Sorry, I don't buy that. Yes, I trust my doctor, my CDE, my other health care professionals. Have they helped me so far? You bet they have! Do I have absolute, complete, tight control every minute of every day? Nope - I doubt I ever will. Do I have good control? Yes. Am I satisfied with what I do and what works for me? Yes. For me that's good enough! Maybe if you realized that you'd find people willing to listen to you more.

On Thu Jul 25 16:26:12 2002 CB () said:
Does this mean to "get it"? Stiff this morning, so I musdt stay in bed and call the doc for a med. Gaining weight, uh oh! Gotta deop muscle fast! After all, weak is healthy! Groan! I have diabetes, sigh! I will do the best I can to live with it. I need info on the following: insulin inhalers, pumps, diets to lose muscle fast, a walker because I can't have dairy and therefore will experience diabetic muscle fragility, it is hot, but the Government says only 80 oz water per day! I guess I can exercise by walking around the house! Yeah, I do get it! It is called thrash CB! I defend a post, I get attacked! Take issue, I get attacked! Advocate lots of veggies I get attacked! Oppose vegan diets, I get attacked! Advocate exercise, even non restistance, I get attacked! Post virtually any nutritional info I get attacked! Again, I do get it! Most of you will not get off your rears and do anything. You use diabetes as an excuse to waste away. Not all, and definitely NOT those people who can't move around much for whatever reason. Ironicaally, Herb, Faith, Jim, and others really try, which is more than I can say for the attackers. Am I egotistical because I go with what is tested and proven, therefore reject what is not? Hardly! Objective truth that can be tested and confirmed is to be accepted. This is why I find sports nutrition so helpful; it is tested! Sports nutrition is geared to having the body function at its best. Is it hard to see that a metabolic disorder like Diabetes can be helped by such an approach? The benefits of glutamine have been confirmed, for example, by testing! It is found safe even in high doses. But your CDE might not know this. I keep posting because I really care! OK APs, have a field day with this one! I am going back to a handle I use elsewhere; Squats!

On Thu Jul 25 15:32:29 2002 () said:
Hmmm, bailed out again, Jim? Afraid of any type of commitment? I hope you treat your real-life friends (if you have any) better than you treat your online "friends" (assuming you have any of those left!).

On Thu Jul 25 14:56:14 2002 Jim () said:
Thanks Faith for clearing that up. They're just trying to create controversy where there is none. AP'ers- I left on my own. Or did I? How could you AP'ers possibly know what my yahoo name is? It's a nice club, and all of you should try it out. Have a good day, Jim

On Thu Jul 25 13:49:13 2002 () said:
In regards to the previous post, right right right. Everyone has been booted out. Some unsubscribed from here, stayed a few hours to see what was going on, then subscribed again. Again I say Everyone has been booted out. Everyone of the scuds. Love, Faith

On Thu Jul 25 13:44:39 2002 Faith () said:
In regards to the previous post, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. No one has ever been booted out. Some subscribed from here, stay a few hours to see what is going on, then unsubscribe. No one has been booted out.

On Thu Jul 25 13:07:22 2002 () said:
yep, he told them to stop posting all the religious crap, then, BLAMMO.....booted out!

On Thu Jul 25 12:57:20 2002 () said:
I HEARD HERB AND FAITH THREW HIM OUT FOR RUNNIN HIS MOUTH..........BANISHED FOREVER.........HEE HEE......

On Thu Jul 25 12:14:04 2002 () said:
yep, am a member, Jim was asked to leave.....

On Thu Jul 25 12:03:07 2002 . (.) said:
Oh please tell more! Are you serious?!

On Thu Jul 25 11:39:35 2002 () said:
JIM GOT KICKED OUT OF THE NEW DHD CLUB........HEE HEE..........

On Thu Jul 25 10:39:42 2002 . (.) said:
God CB - you are so freakin thick-headed!

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