Diabetes Education and Research Center
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On Sat Mar 31 21:49:00 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
SQUATFREAK:
I understand your feelings about not settling for things the way they are just
because we have D. I posted about my having walked 5 steps on Friday. That isn't
much but let me tell you why it was a major victory for me. I was fitted with a
prosthesis a year and a half ago. I went to therapy and learned to walk with a
cane, short distances 150 to 200 feet. When I realized that this was not going
to totally remove me from this chair and that I would still have to use the
chair to see drs., go to church, eat out with my wife, or take the grand kids to
the zoo I gave up and said it isn't worth all the work. I developed some
diabetic ulcers on my remaining leg and the dr. who was treating them said "Son,
if you don't use that leg you are going to lose it to!!" I started thinking
(That's dangerous) about all the good times I have had in my life in the
outdoors. I have been fortunate enough to have left boot prints in every major
mountain range west of the Mississippi. I have heard it said that if a man makes
one real good friend in a lifetime that he is fortunate. I have been lucky
enough to have shared campfires with a bunch of real good friends. I began to
realize that I did not have to sit at home and feel sorry for myself anymore. I
may never walk the high country after elk again or stand waist deep in a cold
trout stream with a fly rod in my hand. BUT, there are things I can do in the
woods and on the water. So you know what, I'm going to. I did some leg and ankle
extensions since yesterday and I walked 20 steps with the help of the walker
today. And I'm going to gain on it every single day. I know I have limitations.
I have congestive heart failure with 42% of my heart left. I wear a pacemaker
ICD. At the current time the pacemaker is pacing my heart 55% of the time. The
ICD will give me a serious electric shock to my heart internally just like the
EMT's do with the paddles if my heart goes into either one of the two
arrythmia's (SP) that can be fatal. So I know I will not be running any races.
And I am aware of what can happen by over doing. My major heart attack came when
I was in Re-hab for physical therapy. I had been in the hospital for 2 months
and saw Re-hab as my exit door and I wanted out. So, if they told me to do 20
repititions of an exercise I did 200 to 300. That put me in ICU on a vent and a
heart pump. So I know to go slow and not get in a big rush. Thanks for the
encouragement that it took to get me started again. Herb (Bear)
On Sat Mar 31 20:58:37 2001 Ruth (dart99_99_99@yahoo.com) said:
Oh and Faye
we are having some beautiful weather here in Indiana. A little damp but nothing
thats hard to live with. The temperatures have been in the upper 50's and this
coming week it suppossed to hit 70 at least one day.
On Sat Mar 31 20:56:58 2001 Ruth (dart99_99_99@yahoo.com) said:
Friends and
Hot Wings What do They Have to do with Diabetes? Friends help you through the
bad times and hot wings are usually very good and diabetics can eat them. Fara:
My Aunt gave me my Great-grandmothers confirmation certificate today. It is
beautiful, nothing like the little pieces of paper we receive today. It is
bigger than an 8X10 but smaller than an 11X14. She was born on Feb.12, 1870 and
on April 16, 1916 at the age of 46 she was confirmed. I offered to make a copy
and return it to her but she told me to keep it. I wish you could see it. She
was confirmed in the Evangelical Church. It's amazing what I'm learning from my
Aunt about my Father's side of the family. Good luck with your search. Hope
you're having as much fun as I am doing this.
On Sat Mar 31 16:52:54 2001 Faye Teague (fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
Squatfreak-- My husband just got hom;e with the towns bucket loader to
remove some of the snow from our yard.--So ;you like stir-r=frys, so you. I made
two different ones thhis week and gave half to my diabetic daughter. One was
made with chicken and all the colored peppers, onions and fresh tomatoes in a
soy sauce and the other was with beef, sugar snow peas, shitaki mushrooms,
broccolli, garlic in a teriaki(sp) sauce.. They were sooooooooooo good. If you
want the recipe give me a shout through e-mail and I will send them to you.
Yours sounded good. I suppose I could use the scollops instead of the beef or
chicken in mine.--Now I need to do some kind of exercise to strengthen the
"flab" on the under arm and the upper thigh, since losing weight. Any
suggestions?
On Sat Mar 31 15:47:27 2001 Squatfreak () said:
Fara! Enjoyed your post. It
is warm here in SoCal. Getting ready to make lunch for work. Stir frying pasta,
veggies and scallops. Will have some coffee while I cook. It is sad that
lowlifes with nothing better to do than attack show up here! Take care and have
a good day.
On Sat Mar 31 15:41:50 2001 Squatfreak () said:
To reason with the
wnreasonable makes no sense perhaps, but here goes.... There is more to living
with D than just limitations. those of us who post about doing things are saying
just that! Verbal viciousness is uncalled for. This sort of anonymous attacking
is really cowardly. Perhaps it would be better to say that I can't go to the
beach because I maight get a foot infection, When I get a muscle cramp, I will
go to bed and call the doctor. I can't play golf because I will be on my feet
too much. The possibility of injury precludes football. All bodyweight is bad,
so I gotta waste away. Anonymous poster, is this your mindset? SDtop living
because you have D? Never!!! I didn't succeed in reasoning because the
individual(s)? are unreasonable. It is ok to disagree as long as one is well
reasoned in approach!
On Sat Mar 31 13:52:34 2001 13:48 () said:
DON'T HIT YOURSELF WITH THE DOOR
ON THE WAY OUT.....GARBAGE MOUTH.,.,.
On Sat Mar 31 13:49:58 2001 () said:
I see nothing much changed
here....prehaps time to shut this site down.....
On Sat Mar 31 13:48:11 2001 () said:
WHATEVER SQUATFREAK!!!WHY DO THEY HAVE
TO PICK ON RUTH AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT POSTS ON HERE????DONT BOTHER BANNING ME,
YOU CAN HAVE THIS ALL TO YOUR SELF!!!!!!
On Sat Mar 31 13:18:13 2001 Squatfreak () said:
() to (), Thanks! That
language is unacceptable here. I know of ISPs that filter this site out for that
very reason!
On Sat Mar 31 13:14:25 2001 Squatfreak () said:
Attitude can really make a
difference. In spite of D, is one going to try different activities? Even here,
I read too many posts from which I infer that they have surrendered to
quasi-invalidism! Can't help but wonder if "correct opinion" has made some of my
posts, especially on diet, controversial. E.g. supplementing incomplete proteins
tp get the highest benefit from each gram was attacked. With respect to
activities, yeah, I lift, and will never stop. It's ok if some don't care to do
it. It is another thing if they are SCARED away from it by well0meaning but
untaught CDEs. It's ok if complications prevent intense exercise. It is another
thing entirely if those same restrictions are given to those without
complications. The bottom line here is health and well being. Do the most you
can wioth what Heaven has given you! Waiting to read another post from a brother
or sister of the iron here. Squats
On Sat Mar 31 12:46:26 2001 11:10:35 () said:
WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND ARE
REPORTING YOU TO BE BANNED FROM HERE GARBAGE MOUTH.............
On Sat Mar 31 11:10:35 2001 () said:
MAR 30 22:14:18......SCREW YOU A-HOLE
AND GET A G-DAMMED LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Sat Mar 31 09:12:24 2001 Faye aka fara (fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
Good morning The snow has stopped after dumping 18 inches upon us. What a
mess. BS fasting this morning is 82. Didn't take any insulin, just my glucophage
and advandia. Will check in two hours. If to high will take a couple units of
regular. Am going to clean house this morning so that I can visit with my
daughter this afternoon Have a great day everyone.
On Sat Mar 31 04:03:44 2001 Squatfreak () said:
Herb, keep at it! Hope you
can quickly adjust to your prosthesis. Did my squat thing at the gym. 255, still
far short of my 300 goal. BS was low at work tonight. Dropprf to 43 before
dinner. Going to bed soon and will have carbs again.
On Fri Mar 30 22:44:18 2001 () said:
WHAT DOES BOYFRIEND AND HOT WINGS HAVE
TO DO WITH DIABETES PLEASE EXPLAIN MORE
On Fri Mar 30 22:14:33 2001 Ruth (dart99_99_99@yahoo.com) said:
Steve and I
went to spend the evening with friends to ring in a new year for one of them. It
was her birthday. Well, she was late because her boyfriend was let. While we
waited for her we decided to have some hot wings. The first time we ate there
the hot wings were delicious. Tonight the chicken wasn't done and the sauce
tasted terrible. Decided to order some chips and salsa for Steve and chips and
cheese for myself. Took 1/2 hr. for them to bring them out and they didn't even
warm the cheese. Gave them back and told her what she could do with them. She
gave me a bad look, oh well. The bill was outrageous, she wouldn't cash a check
and we won't be eating there again. Birthday girl never showed up and we finally
left. We met her at the Night/Day store where we stopped to get me a diet coke.
She really looked nice, different, but nice. She had on a dress instead of
bluejeans. She is a member of our dart team, lousy darter but a wonderful
person, a fun person.
On Fri Mar 30 21:48:44 2001 Gordo (gordom@earthlink.net) said:
Toad: First,
let me apologize. Your e-mail got lost in my income tax. Your tiredness may be a
result of malnutrition from too drastic a cut back of foods or a vitamin
deficiency. We obtain our energy as a result of insulin transporting glucose
from our blood into our cells. We diabetics while fighting to reduce our BG
level can do many things to upset the normal balance of nutrients in our bodies.
There are too many things that can cause your tiredness. I personally get tired
and sleepy when my BG's reach their highs after meals. To me this indicates that
I am headed to my doctor to check on the need for a medication. It appears that
my insulin output is slacking of some as my highs are growing while my fasting
is staying the same with closely regulated nutrient intake. I can't blame this
on stress because my wife does the worrying in the family. The foods you listed
and the preparation of them is satisfactory. The question is, are you getting
enough nutrients and the balance you need to provide you with the energy you
require. If you can e-mail me more specific detail about potrion size, and each
food for each meal, I will review it for you. Do not avoid breakfast as you tear
down muscle when your liver store of glycogen is depleted. You may just be weak
from malnutrition. Drastic weight loss is not recommended. 1-2 pounds per week
is a maximum after the first weeks water loss. Again, I am sorry that you had to
compete with Big Brother as per Marc. Gordo
On Fri Mar 30 20:34:46 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
This is a tuff
topic. My husband and I wanted children and decided not to have them. Understand
when I had to make the decision, there was not even blood testing machine for
the home. You had to rent them during pregancy. It makes me sound old but things
have advanced greatly in the last 15-20 years. I felt I would not live long
enough to raise them. My husband did not want to raise them alone. Times have
changed and I would have them if I could make a decision today. My brother had
great health and died at 42 of cancer. He left behind a 6 year old. He loved her
so much. Not his plan but has a way of dealing some bad cards. We all think we
are going to die from the D. What if cancer comes or an accident? We really
should try to think of all the great things a child can bring to our lives. We
punish ourselves with all the things that might happen. Just think, everything
might be just fine. I hope you all can work it out as a couple and stay
together. -------Toad, I am so sorry to hear this broke you up, there is some
one out there for you that will understan. If you can let us know here on the
board where you are from maybe we can help locate a doctor. Take care, Love
& Luck, Misty
On Fri Mar 30 20:30:19 2001 () said:
but whatever made you think you had the
right to have 8 children.....??...people like you are the reason the world is
starving to death..............
On Fri Mar 30 18:48:44 2001 Ruth (dart99_99_99@yahoo.com) said:
I understand
Marc's problem about not being able to get insurance and also not wanting to
pass diabete's on to his children. BUT, and it's a big but, no one in my family
has ever had diabetes and I have it anyway. As most here on the board knows I've
been doing family history research and 95% of the death certificates I've been
able to get has named cancer, of one sort or another, as the cause. If my family
had decided not to have children because they didn't want to pass the cancer on
I wouldn't be here. The other side of the family died from heart attacks at a
very old age. Any way you look at it you don't know what you may pass on to your
children or your grandchildren. Last time I went to the doctors he told me that
diabetes isn't necesserily genetic. That it is caused from a virus of the
pancreas, spelling is terrible today. Me?, I don't know. I just know that my
children and grandchildren have made my life so full and enjoyable that I
wouldn't change a thing about my past. It's true that I wish I didn't have
diabetes because I, like Mark fear that it will pass on to my children and
grandchildren, but not to have had them? Marc, I don't know how old you are or
anything about you and your life style except for what I read here. Please don't
take offense at anything I say here because this is only my thoughts and
feelings. It's just that my children have helped me get thru so much. My 2nd
husband died at the age of 45 and left me with 8 children still at home and no
life insurance but I made it. It wasn't easy but I did it. The youngest was only
6 yrs. old at the time. She is now, I think she's 27, and just had her 1st child
after being told that she would never have any because of cancer that she had as
a teenager. Believe me Mark, that whatever you decide to do will work out for
you and your wife. If, you want children go for it, there are no guarantees in
this life. There is hope, joy and despair and children can give you all three.
My best to everyone on this board and I mean that sincerely.
On Fri Mar 30 17:51:04 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
I
appreciate your honesty. You sound like you were dead set against children. I
actually want children, but know I have these obstacles to take care of. I do
think therapy can get me to face my fears, and I am working on a financial plan
that would allow her security. So I guess where I am at is the "working it out"
phase, but I do see your position and think it is understandable that if two
people want very different things that splitting is the right thing to do. Can I
ask you this, did you want children at all or did you not want children because
of the potential for diabetic disaster? You see the other side of my situation
is I took a proactive approach by going on the pump, and do have the potential
to get many years out of life without additional problems, that is the "logical"
side of this. My biggest problem is finding a way to get both sides together in
my head. And I guess children are the grand prize if I do.
On Fri Mar 30 17:22:52 2001 Dear Marc () said:
My wife and I were in exactly
the same place you are on having children....we went through much counseling and
all it really came down to is weather to get the divorce now or go through years
of hell until we both saw reality. If your wife does indeed want children
nothing will replace her drive to have them...you are most understanding of the
realities of your disease and all the financial and other drawbacks....My wife
and I divorced over this and I have never been sorry...she has remarried and is
on the way to the children she wants and I am alone but without the unending
burden of seeing them in the poorhouse because of my disease....if you refuse to
have children the bitterness will at some point make your life miserable ...
this is why so many disable people find themselves divorced and broke...so,
better to get it over now while it is just you and your wife involved.......
On Fri Mar 30 16:59:44 2001 Toad () said:
Hiya!! I don't often post here but
reading the latest posts, I just wanted to say hi to everyone.:+) HERB! Your
news really makes me feel so happy for you. Thanks for the inspiration. I needed
it today. I'm a newbie here and feel like I'm intruding a little among
established friends (and foes? LOL) I admit I'm ignorant of diabetes. (I'm
learning, slowly) and have yet to find a Dr. in my area that actually cares
enough to set and explain and answer questions. But for the emotional support I
get from this board, I do thank you all. Even the neg. postings have a positive
side. They remind me that I'm not alone or simply being self-absorbed when I
want to yell at something or someone for no better reason than to make them feel
as lousy as I do at the moment. That my world didn't end March 8th, just started
down a road with a different surface. GORDO? Did you get my e-mail? I don't know
what I'm doing right or wrong, but I've gotten my BS down from 260 to between 74
and 146 each day this past week. It's goes up and down, as I'm sure you know,
but I hope that I'm doing more right than wrong. :+) Thanks again. Toad
On Fri Mar 30 16:26:03 2001 Don () said:
Is there something funny about low
blood sugar to you John? Try not to indulge the idiot.
On Fri Mar 30 16:07:28 2001 JOHN V (?????????????????????????) said:
It is
hard to believe you are the same person. You have a low again??????? JOHN V.
On Fri Mar 30 16:05:12 2001 JOHN V (YES.) said:
Yes 0, you made a very good
point there. JOHN.
On Fri Mar 30 16:03:22 2001 () said:
JOHN,.....BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH.......
On Fri Mar 30 15:34:54 2001 () said:
......and on the other side of the coin
we have many (probably most) of the children who were concieved by the spur of
the moment drives and all the children conceived before modern day birth control
methods (yes there is a large group of us who fit into this
category)and..........none of us are immune diabetic or not.
On Fri Mar 30 15:32:20 2001 JOHN V. (TYPE 1) said:
Marc,....that's very well
put. What I didn't talk about was the opinion of the wife in these cases. That
is the other 50% of the decision. Now if the wife REALLY want the
children,....that weighs very heavy in the weighscale. The trouble is, that if
things go wrong and she was in favor and the husband not.....will she blame
herself for it. So when you go for it it has to be a joined yes. Like you say
with the medical development going so fast even if diabetes strikes them they
will be in a much better position then we ever were. Your other concerns are
ligitimate also, you would have to work on that or take a chance. I have heared
about cases where husband and wife would break up over that. That's not good at
all. JOHN.
On Fri Mar 30 15:10:16 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
John.... Here is my take on children. I don't fear passing on diabetes to
them because I believe that by then there will be a cure or something close to
it. My fear is this, that I get hit with some serious complication, one I may
not live through. I cannot get life insurance, trust me I have tried. So I fear
leaving my wife with the responsibilty of being a single parent without the
financial ability. I fear leaving a small child without a father. Now I will say
this does not mean no children, it means I need to work this out with a good
therapist, and get some serious support from Julie. I will tell you she has yet
to understand, she gets defensive and says why bother with therapy you have your
mind made up. This isn't my mind made up, it's just my fears. I watched my
mother die when I was in my 20's, I just can't shake the feeling of my young son
or daughter going through that. This is the kind of thing I think of now that
never ever crossed my mind before the Retinopathy. But it did give me a wake up
call to the fact I am not immune, and does make me think of the future with a
realistic view, although people do accuse me of using it as an excuse. Bottom
line, I think I would be a great father, but I would be an irresponsible one if
I did it without working out my fears AND placing my wife in a financial
situation she would be able to raise our child without me. Well that is about it
for that, just thought I would put that out there and see if there are people my
age with the same thoughts. I think generationally it has changed and the future
looks better for children in relation to the disease itself. ..... Marc
On Fri Mar 30 14:56:07 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Sam... your more than welcome. Did you hear about the new Quickset? It goes
in like the softset (90 dgrees) but it connects at the site, no loop. I think it
will be available next month. That is a great thing about the Silhuoette,
connecting at the site. Check it out next supply order. Take care and how is the
back? Faye, yes I do believe you sound great. I learned to have faith in you
since you seem to now shake off the blahs much better. I am proud of you. Herb..
keep on keeping on man, you got some serious fight in you. Jodi is one lucky
person. Don't forget to remind her every once in a while!Of course we both know
we are the lucky ones! Misty... you reminded me with the cataract that I was
lucky and mine developed quickly, I didn't have any long wait, just a few
months. John... I am going to continue on the next post so this won't be too
long..... Marc
On Fri Mar 30 14:23:35 2001 Sam (raneysam@yahoo.com) said:
Marc W...have a
GREAT concert tonight!! Thanks again for the supplies...you are a neat person.
Hope it goes perfect. Your generosity was needed at a bad time. Peace, Sam
On Fri Mar 30 14:11:57 2001 Faye aka fara (fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
HERB, What great news. 5 BIG STEPS is so wonderful. I just want you to be
careful and not put to much of a strain on that heart of yours. Make sure you
check your pulse before standing and after. Boy, I sound like a mother hen don't
I, but then, I guess I am, as I like to take care of all my children here!!!!!
Now for a storm update. There has been OVER A FOOT of the new stuff today. Don't
know when it will stop. One road has been closed because of a 6 foot snow drift.
They are trying to get it opened now. It is just so heavy and the wind is
blowing hard in places causing the drifts. So far we still have our power. I
won't be surprised if we loose it before it is over.
On Fri Mar 30 13:47:23 2001 JOHN (A/B) said:
Keep it up Herb. You probably
have to develop strenght in that leg over time. Great news!!!! JOHN V.
On Fri Mar 30 13:44:01 2001 JOHN V (A/B) said:
It is a very interesting and
important subject to which Marc referred.The question is, does one want to have
children when it is known that the diabetes problems can be passed on to
them..... When we had our two boys, in 1955 and 1957, it was just before it
became clear that I had diabetes. (1960) I worried considerably about the
possibility that they also may become diabetic. As it worked out, sofar, it has
shown that they were not affected by it. Even our 6 grandchildren do not, sofar,
show any signs. Except my granddaughter who has been showing signs of possibly
having lupus which may have some connection, who knows for sure? (age 18) Had I
known I was diabetic before they were manufactured, would we have not had them?
I suppose under the present circumstances I have to say that it would have been
a mistake not having them. If they would have been affected by diabetes when I
would have had it before going for having children and therefore, knowing that
it was possible, I would have blamed myself for doing so. It is therefore a
difficult question to answer as you can see from my experience. If I was faced
with the situation knowing I had it, we probably would not have gone for it. But
it remains a difficult question to answer. One could try it with one child
first, but sometimes it doesn't show til much later. What to do????? JOHN V.
On Fri Mar 30 13:40:10 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Herb, That is
great! I know you will give your all to do alittle more each day. Sending
strength your way, Love & Luck, Misty
On Fri Mar 30 13:14:39 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
I have been
wearing the alpha liner that goes with my prosthesis f or about 4 days now to
reduce the edema (swelling) in my stump so I could get the prosthesis on. Jodi
just helped me put it on and I stood with the help of a walker and took 5 steps
before the leg buckled causing me to have to set down. Herb (Bear)
On Fri Mar 30 11:31:42 2001 () said:
I HAD A BAD LOW ONCE WHILE ON A
TREADMILL
On Fri Mar 30 11:24:54 2001 Faye aka fara (fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
Good morning to all. What a day it is here in NH. We are having a good north
east, heavy, wet, snow storm. It started about 5 this morning. We have about 9
inches so far. It is going to be a good one. My spirits are still good, even if
the sun isn't shining. Can you believe that MarcW!!!!! My husband took the
morning off from work as he had a doctor appointment, and so did I. He took me
to my appointment to see my heart specialist, and cancelled his. He was so
pleased with my progress and attitude on my outlook on my life. I DO NOT need
the special stress test that he wanted me to have as the problems have gone
away. YAH!!!! and he doesn't want to see me until fall, (unless I have a
problem) and I don't plan on having any!!! Isn't that great!!!----Now for
diabetic talk. My blood sugars are still doing great and so is the diet plan. I
can start the treadmill again, (and that is what I am going to do as soon as I
finish this post) my doctor told me yesterday. If my hip still bothers to let
him know and he will "shoot" it up. We don't like to as it makes my sugars to
high for a few days.----I have talked about the new long lasting insulin with my
Dr. and we are going to discuss it more next month and I may go on it. Does
anyone here use it? Just wondering how it is. And now it is time to go on the
treadmill.-----The schools have just been cancelled for the rest of the day
here.---CHAD, your little 5 year old will be smarter than you realize when you
explain about your sight. I have a 6 year old granddaughter that knows about my
diabetes and the problems that I have. She always asks if I have taken my
insulin before I eat, If I don't feel good she can always tell and asks me if my
sugar is low. I have told both her and her 8 year old brother all about me and
when they should call 911 and what to say and I have showed them where my
medication is so the rescue squad or attendents need to know. They know who my
doctor is and what hospital I go to. When I had my cataract removed and couldn't
drive for awhile, she just said that Grampa or her Mom or Aunt Cathy would take
me. But you never go anywhere Grammie, she told me. She is my love and so is her
brother!!! Everyone have a great day!!
On Fri Mar 30 11:24:45 2001 Misty (same) said:
Marc W.----- Have a GREAT
time tonight! If you run into anyone let it be their problem. I know you will
have love and support right next to you! Please let us in on details
tomorrow.----------So sorry for sp, I ended up awake all night. I should have
stayed on and spoke with Faye. Now I have a full day and my body does not want
to move! my bs is doing well and I will try the temp. basil today. Thanks, Love
& Luck, Misty
On Fri Mar 30 11:17:01 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Cadsulfide -- You
and I have a lot in common. I am blind in right eye. I had as much laser in the
left eye that is possible. I also had a cataract in my good eye. The doctors
wanted to put off any surgery as long as possible because of lack of control and
infection. I stopped driving for a year anda half. I had to make the decision
for the surgery. I could not work or drive. It is very hard to chance giving up
some sight for no sight. I felt like I had to be happy for the sight I did have.
One day I knew it was time for me to go on, the surgery was a sucess and I now
can drive durning the day. Night driving is too difficult for me. Take your time
and you will know when you are ready. Love & Luck, Misty
On Fri Mar 30 10:09:32 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
Cadsulfide -
Marc W. has been where you are, listen to him. I'm sure your doctors will help
you to understand all there is to this procedure. I have cataracts also. Mine
are not at a stage yet where they need to do anything to them, but when they
are, I will have them removed. It is a relativly routine procedure now days. I
like Marc W am on an insulin pump. I would never give it up. Like Marc, feel
free to ask us about it "if" you are interested.
On Fri Mar 30 09:50:02 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Cad.... one other thought. I too am a hard to control diabetic who had a big
time shot routine, up to 6 a day. I went on the insulin pump and it is great, I
have had problems and we are tweaking as we speak, but my control is great. I
don't want to be a pump pusher here so if you do have an intrest, just ask and
myself and several others here would gladly give their opinions on how it has
changed our lives for the better. MISTY.... I am going to that concert tonight
with the back stage passes. I am excited and nervous, that isn't an atmosphere I
have been in since I got hit with the vision stuff. Maybe I will "bump" into
someone famous, literally!....
On Fri Mar 30 09:43:01 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Cadsulfide... I am confused here. Tell me this, why would they NOT remove
the cataract? It is a very simple proceedure that would clear up that portion of
your problem. Having been in your shoes, I suspect there are additional
problems. Help fill in those blanks and I will do what I can. We can talk in
detail in e-mail if you wish. I had laser, Vitrectomy and cataract surgery so
maybe I am closer to the "twin" the other Mark brought up. I talk about your
type of problem all the time with my wife, she wants kids and I am racked with
"what if". I have vision, although not good and partial tear of the retina, in
my "good eye". So your situation is why I hesitate on children. As I said, I
don't think I know your whole situation so e-mail me or post here and I will
tell you my opinion. Cataract only is nothing to put off though if that is your
only visual problem in that eye. Take care......Marc W
On Fri Mar 30 08:50:33 2001 Mark (to cadsulfide) said:
I believe that every
diabetic has a "twin" and that yours is out here somewhere. This site will tell
you that you are not alone in what your facing. I am not that twin but maybe a
distant relative. Your question on the cataract can only be answered by you. The
advice you may get here would be seem more toward the things that we know from
experience that could help aleviate or prevent complications. Since you are
already past that door we can offer encouragement to you. I have had surgery on
one eye but not with the problem of it being the last eye working. I would not
settle for just two opinions on this. I would want the best regional or
countrywide doctors opinion before I decide such a big problem. But ask yourself
if I don't do anything what happens to my remaining eyesight. As for the 5 year
old, they will love you just as much no matter what you decide or what happens.
I don't think they would understand it in any great detail but instead would
listen to the tone of your explaination to give them the clue how to react. If
your in control of your tone, they know you are handling the 'whatever' it is
your telling them about. Then hug each other. Good luck and maybe your "twin"
diabetic condition will read this and respond with how they have handled it.
On Fri Mar 30 07:23:02 2001 Jim (jimfultz@alltel.net) said:
Good morning
everyone. Cadsulfide- I wish I could give you an answer on your problem but I'm
not as qualified as Marc W or Gordon. I'm sure they or someone will address you.
What I CAN tell you, is don't be afraid you are sounding like a "whiner". The
only way you can get the help and support you need is to ask. If that makes you
a whiner, then we all are. Jim
On Fri Mar 30 05:34:52 2001 cadsulfide () said:
Hello, to all. I am "New" to
this. So, Please excuse ANY mistakes that I make. I have been a Diabetic for way
too long. I take numorus injections daily just to keep blood sugars within a
"Semi" normal range. I am a just plain "Hard to control Diabetic". I have been
"Trying" for years. And yes, I have many complacations too. But, this one has
presented a "Huge" problem. I am just asking for some thoughts. I only have
sight in one eye. I have a cataract on the "Good" eye. I cannot pass a Driving
test because of the cateract. I have to depend on other people for rides. This
not only poses a problem for me but, how do I explain this to my 5yr old? Also,
"Do I have the cateract removal and posssibley loose All sight"? Each Doctor I
have been to seems to have a "Different" opinion on this issue. Thank You,
Cadsulfide Please, I do not mean to sound like a "Whinner" but, I would like to
hear your opinions on this next "Twist" that being a Diabetic hhas thrown at me.
On Fri Mar 30 00:44:38 2001 Misty (chmgm@yahoo.com) said:
Marc, Herb, CB,
Sue, JohnV, and Faye! Thanks so much for all the kind words. I know you all are
good hearted people and that means alot to me.----------Herb, I agree with Marc
on your eye sight. Enjoy every minute of the good times. I am very glad for the
sight I do have. It makes some things harder to do but it is much better then No
sight. ENJOY, ENJOY, ENJOY! Take care all, Love & Luck, Misty
On Thu Mar 29 22:24:53 2001 Ruth (dart99_99_99@yahoo.com) said:
Fara: I was
glad to. No, I don't have high blood pressure, it's the only thing normal about
me. Glad to hear your family search is coming along good. I'm going to give you
the address of my new family site, check it out and see if it's something you
might want to try. I've had quite a few relatives contact me because of it and
received a lot of help with my search.
http://pages.zdnet.com/familywoman/familytreegenealogysite I've really had a lot
of fun with it. Take care Faye
On Thu Mar 29 21:01:45 2001 Mark () said:
JUST AN FYI FOR ALL DIABETICS
CURRENTLY ON INSULIN THERAPY, A NEW LONG ACTING INSULIN WILL BE AVAILABLE IN
MAY. THIS APPARENTLY IS A VERY WELCOMED ADDITION TO THE INSULIN MARKET ACCORDING
TO MANY ENDOCRINOLOGISTS. THE NAME IS LANTUS(INSULIN GLARGINE) AND IS A TRUE 24
HR DOSE TAKEN AT NIGHT. THIS MAY BE NICE FOR PEOPLE ON 2 DOSES OF NPH OR NOT
CONTROLLED ON THEIR CURRENT THERAPY. I BELIEVE THIS CAN BE TAKEN WITH ORAL
AGENTS AS WELL.
On Thu Mar 29 20:52:21 2001 () said:
Well..DK, how Christian of you...
On Thu Mar 29 19:34:52 2001 Faye aka fara (fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
Ruth, so glad that your arm and ribs were not broken. Just being bruised can
sometimes feel worse. Do you have blood pressure problems? When that use to
happen to me it was because my blood pressure dropped down low. Glad you are
doing so well on your genealogy. I am coming along with mine pretty good.
On Thu Mar 29 18:05:52 2001 Ruth (dart99_99_99@yahoo.com) said:
Ok, someone
made a remark to me about CB, by the time I read the rest of the posts I forget
what it said, I do know it was negative though. CB helped me a lot on this
message board and through e-mail when I was going to the fitness center. I
finally stopped going to the fitness center because the more I did and the more
I enjoyed it the more the trainers told me to slow down and back off. I was
really getting into the aerobics, the weight machines and at least an hour on
the treadmill sometimes longer. If it hadn't be for CB and others on the board I
wouldn't have lasted as long as I did. I haven't been to the fitness center for
over a year now. So say what you want about CB but he will give encouragement to
anyone that needs or wants it either here or in e-mail. KEEP IT UP CB I love
Gordo for all his nutritional advice which most of it I didn't follow but he
couldn't make me follow his advice but he offered it anyway and he helped many,
many people. He even offered to help my youngest brother who was told that MAYBE
he was diabetic. Lucky him he wasn't, but the offer of help was there. He
personally e-mailed him because I asked him to. Thats a true friend. LOVE YA
GORDO Yesterday I took a bad fall, don't know what happened. According to the
doctor I blacked out for just a split second and be the time I hit the ground I
had come around. That is the 2nd time I've had that happened and was told the
same thing the 1st time. I for one think it's bull. I hit the ground hard enough
that I wasn't able to get up for several minutes and no one was around to help
me. I fell on my right arm, my dart throwing arm, and landed hard on my right
side brusing not only my arm but also my ribs. I was really worried that I broke
my arm and cracked a rib or two. Turned out was all I did was get bruised up but
was unable to throw darts last night. Probably good thing for the team. After
all we did get 14 points. Now we're back in last place. Needless to say I was
terrible last night and bitched about anything and everything. Thankfully
everyone knows how I am and didn't get upset with me. By the end of the evening
they all had me laughing along with them. WHY CAN'T IT BE THAT WAY HERE? This
morning I received a phone call from my youngest daughter, the one that had the
baby right after Christmas. He weighs 16 lbs now at the age of 3 months. The
reason she called is because she is scared. She goes into the hospital tomorrow
for tests. They believe she may have colon cancer. She fought vaginal cancer for
several years and finally beat it and now this. She knows how heavy cancer runs
in our family. I told her to try not worrying because that won't help at all but
to remember that even though 95% of our relatives died of cancer they still
lived to a ripe old age. Most all of them were in there late 80's or early 90's.
She will call me in a few days with the test results. My family history research
is coming right along. I have started a new site for it and I really like it. I
can do just about anything I want to do on it. It's not limited like most of
them. Because of that I put the web site for SEIDA on there too. That's our
darting association. Well, enough for today. I just want everyone here,
especially all my friends from before that I'm still alive and kicking and
getting ready to fix dinner for husband Steve. I love everyone of you for all
the hope, friendship and encouragement I've received over the years and hope to
continue to receive from all of you.
On Thu Mar 29 17:32:52 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Just
like old times here again. They should have learned when they reopened to put in
controls, oh well. Hi Faye... you just keep on losing weight, buying new clothes
would be the best hassle you would deal with , huh? I played 18 today, what a
beautiful day. I never went under 80 or over 100 the whole day. When it is
working, nothing beats the pump. Hey Dark Knight, it doesn't matter who you are.
My fan club will think it is me no matter what. Not worth the typing to fight
it. Take it easy.... the real Marc W
On Thu Mar 29 17:16:01 2001 Gordon Miller (gordom@earthlink.net) said:
Bambi: I think in most, but not all, diabetics, stress elevates the blood
glucose level. From the thousands of posts I have read and people I have talked
to, this is the case. This can be emotional stress, physical stress and stress
to your immune system. This is the unique side of the nervous system. I believe
that stress has a multiple effect on many diabetics. While it is definitely
affecting our nervous system, many of us are not as aggressive in the management
of our diabetic control under stress as we are without its influence. Various
stressful incidents affect each of us somewhat different. Some can't sleep, some
indulge in eating or drinking what we shouldn't, some get headaches, some have
ulcers, some are very nervous, it all depends on the individual. We also have to
try to factor in the effect of the medications we are currently taking and what
they do to our interrelated body systems. If our kidneys are stressed by
diabetic complications, what effect does that have on our endocrine system that
has so much to do with our digestive, circulatory, lymphatic, pulmonary,
cardiovascular,reproductive, urinary, and nervous systems. That leaves the
Muscular, integumentary, and skeletal systems that also could be affected. Our
bodies are very complex when everything is working correctly, but wow, look at
the mess when it isn't working correctly, especially with extra stress. To ()
3-28, 16:48: Yes, including you. Sometimes you stimulate thought, and sometimes
you overdo it. But who on here doesn't at times. Jan 3-29, 10:55: If your kids
play rap music, they can teach us all some bad words. Vinny: If Big Brother is
reading, Just take a page out of Slick Willie's play book and tell them you
didn't inhale. Gordo
On Thu Mar 29 16:54:28 2001 THE dark knight () said:
Well, since it has now
been reduced to posting using anothers handle it is time that I leave. I am
sorry if I have encouraged MR.IHAVENONAMEOFMYOWN to post such worthless garbage.
I hope each of you is able to get the support you seek in spite of a certain
individual. I will look for MR.NONAME at www.theviewisokfrommygarbagecan.com
On Thu Mar 29 16:46:23 2001 Faye Ellingwood Teague (fteague@sugar-river.net)
said:
Herb-- Great post. This board means a lot to most of the people that
post here, CB, Gordo, MarcW, Jim, Faith, Misty, Ruth, Anita,JohnV, Bambi, and
Vinny, just to name a few. I respect all of them and everyone of them have
helped me in some way in the past 4 years that I have been here, with the
exception of when it was down, and then some of us found each other on other
boards. We have all got to stick together and stay with being here. Don't let
the trouble makers get the best of us.--As for JohnV telling me "not to get to
skinny as I might not look good", I know he was joking and that he is proud of
my accomplishment no mater what it is. He knows what I have been through. CB
knows some of my past medical problems as do all the rest here and shows
encouragment in what I try to do, even the short time on the treadmill, he was
proud of me for trying. I admire him for his weight lifting and squatting. That
is his way of keeping fit. Gordo has sent me much information on nutrition that
has been very helpful and I still read it. If you have a question about
nutrition, he is the man to ask and he is always willing to help. I admire him
for the way that he has his diabetes under control, and is not letting it
control him. Now for my dear MarcW. We have shared a lot on the board and
through e-mail. He has set me straight a few times, and is always there with
good words, and yes, sometime harsh words, but I don't take it as trying to
cause trouble. If you want to know about eye problems, he is the man to ask. He
and Faith talked long about the pump. I learned a lot from their conversations.
I love to here about the daily routine of everyone and what makes them happy and
what makes them sad and how we can be of help to each other. So lets stick
together and forget about the ones that don't understand our family!!! Didn't
mean to get carried away.
On Thu Mar 29 16:44:51 2001 dark knight () said:
i play with dolls....i want
to come out of the closet about you know what......hmmmm...should i?????can you
tell me how???????
On Thu Mar 29 16:40:28 2001 dark knight () said:
Wrong again.
On Thu Mar 29 16:39:27 2001 () said:
Well..DK, how Christian of you...
On Thu Mar 29 16:37:36 2001 Bambi (bambilovestim@email.com) said:
John:
Thanks for trying. I think that in humans, it used to be called "5th Disease",
and was the 5th childhood disease after measles, mumps, chicken pox, and
rubella... then this was the "5th Disease". Anyway, she was actively ill with
swollen hands, red "mask" on face, and very very tired. Her viral tests were
positive for parvo infection. Now, a month later, I've got the same thing! And
high blood sugar readings for several days now. Anyway, thanks again for trying
to help.
On Thu Mar 29 16:34:43 2001 () said:
and marc w takes on another identity at
16:17:35.......
On Thu Mar 29 16:17:35 2001 dark knight () said:
'devil worship'?
hmmm.....seems you know nothing about me. I came to this site to perhaps help
someone....I don't appreciate your dribble....somehow how I don't believe any of
the others here do either...seek help whoever you are.....you need it. try and
have a good day. dk
On Thu Mar 29 16:09:57 2001 JOHN V. (A/B) said:
BAMBI AND VIRUS. BAMBI,...I
have been looking for the relationship between the parvovirus and bloodsugar in
diabetes. Apparently the Canine virus is deadly but humans cannot catch the
parvovirus from dogs. Dogs cannot catch the human virus. About 50% of adults
carry the virus, often without knowing because they did not have a sickness
involving the virus. It seems to be dangerous for pregnant women whereby the
death of the fetus is about 10-15%. However not a word sofar about diabetes and
the parvovirus. There is very limited treatment for it. JOHN V.
On Thu Mar 29 16:03:45 2001 () said:
gee herb, do you think you would like
to be in charge..?
On Thu Mar 29 16:01:33 2001 () said:
DARK KNIGHT TAKE YOUR DEVIL WORSHIP
SOMEWHERE ELSE....
On Thu Mar 29 15:25:53 2001 () said:
YOUR RIGHT HERB....IM SORRY
On Thu Mar 29 15:16:55 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
HEY FOLKS:
Let's all as my doctors would say "Step back take a couple of deep breaths and
refuse to get stressed out>" or maybe as my kids would say maybe we all could
take a chill pill. I we all need to take a long look at what is happening here.
How long has it been since a "newbie" came on here and asked for help. And can
we blame them for not wanting to step into the cross fire that is going on here.
I think that we all need each other and all should be committed to helping out
everyone else on here. We can't afford to let he, she, it, them, or they to ruin
what can and should be a valuable tool to all diabetics. Just look what has
happened to us. We are fighting amongst ourselves just like a bunch of kids. We
have allowed ourselves to get caught up in a squabble that should never happen
here. Why don't we all back off, think it over and regroup with a vow to not do
or say anything that is not a positve form of support for the group or for the
individuals who make up the group???? Herb (Bear)
On Thu Mar 29 14:49:48 2001 () said:
And by the way who started the
arguement with his posting about diabetics being fat and weak??
On Thu Mar 29 14:48:21 2001 () said:
CB, Are you naive enough to think that
() is just one person?? Sometimes () asks good questions or says something
amusing. Should you be deleted for not posting your e--mail??? I think we should
take a vote. I refuse to put my name and then get attacked or wind up in one of
your silly little arguements about squatting.
On Thu Mar 29 14:33:56 2001 SQUATFREAK () said:
Sorry, wrong handle.
On Thu Mar 29 14:32:38 2001 CB () said:
It is sad when a board for support
turns into something else! I remember getting thrashed for my recreational
activities (lifting) and sharing nutritional info I have found. Enough about
that.....I have posted technical questions here with no answer even attempted. I
will lurk and post I guess, but this site really is lacking. BTW, why can't ()
be deleted?
On Thu Mar 29 14:08:00 2001 () said:
"Don't know if skinny will look good on
you.!!!!" WHAT A STUPID THING TO SAY TO SOME ONE...TO HELL WITH FEELING GOOD
ABOUT ONES LOSING WEIGHT......BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
On Thu Mar 29 14:03:03 2001 JOHN V. ( type 1) (A/B.) said:
Gordo,...thank
you for your posting. I was very amazed about what I perceived was a rather less
than pleasant posting by you about me. Obviously I perceived wrongly. Sorry I
may have been a bit sharp in my reply. We know each other for a long time in
this diabetes business and just exchanged info not long ago by e-mail. So, I
didn't know what it was that you ment. I have always respected you for your
knowledge about nutrition and always will. .....................Misty ,...I'm
also adding my condolences for your loss. It takes time to get past that. Sad
things, that's for sure. Because of my age I have been in your position many
times, so I know and commensurate with you................ Herb,...what a
pleasure to see you back, was getting worried about you when I didn't receive
any answer on my e-mail. Things can happen just like that and I never
underestimate the possibility of that.............Faye,...don't lose too much
weight.!!!!! You have to buy new cloth all the time. Don't know if skinny will
look good on you.!!!! Congrats anyway....JOHN.
On Thu Mar 29 12:57:58 2001 BIG FAT COW WOMAN () said:
HEY
KNIGHTS........YOU 2 GIRLS PLEASE STOP THE TRAMP WAR.....RIGHT
NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
On Thu Mar 29 12:57:30 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
Faye - I guess
I've joined your club of not sleeping. For the past two nights I can not sleep.
Last night it was sometime after 3 AM before I dosed off. Did get my closet
sorted out some though.
On Thu Mar 29 12:56:49 2001 Bambi (below) said:
My lunch reading is 239. Did
anyone have a thought about viral infection raising blood sugar levels? (See my
first post below)
On Thu Mar 29 12:29:42 2001 dark knight () said:
not suprised to see your
intelligence, or lack thereof, show through W.K.
On Thu Mar 29 12:17:59 2001 White Knight (()) said:
Jan, what kind of
negligent mother are you to be letting your kids read here. This is clearly
adult, and a responsible parent would understand that.
On Thu Mar 29 11:15:13 2001 () said:
VINNY....WHAT DID THE COKE
DO???????
On Thu Mar 29 11:11:44 2001 vinny (vinnym@myexcel.com) said:
BUD During my
smoking years, I found the biggest problem with pot was the munchies. Pot, I
found, does lower blood sugar, although I can't say it is the cause of munchies.
I did a check one time. Tested BG, smoked a doob, waited an hour or so and
re-checked. It was down 10-12 points (it was many years ago). One thing I did
was switch to such things as celery w/ peanut butter for the hungries. Hope Big
Brother isn't reading:)
On Thu Mar 29 11:07:00 2001 dark knight () said:
MR. ALL CAPS: Your theory
that 'most are behind gayle' is inaccurate. BTW: Since when does the majority
make something right? Ever watch 'Who Wants to Be a Millionaire'? Polling the
audience does not always produce the correct answer. Please stop yelling....you
are giving me a head-ache.
On Thu Mar 29 10:58:20 2001 () said:
GAYLE...HANG IN THERE...MOST OF US
AGREE WITH YOU...
On Thu Mar 29 10:55:54 2001 () said:
Dear Joe....would you please watch your
swearing....my children read this service.....I do not care if you are a homo or
whatever.....just please be more adult with your writing..thanks Jan
On Thu Mar 29 10:53:30 2001 () said:
On Wed Mar 28 16:48:47 2001 Gordo
(gordom@earthlink.net) said: To ALL: Wow, the glucose control bug is flying high
today.I think that if everybody takes a close look into their memory bank, it is
easy to relate aggressive moods to diabetic problems. If you look at all posts,
whether each of us deem them to be relevent, we can relate to the expressed mood
by the problem existing at the time. I consider each of you my
friend..........INCLUDING ME GORDON??????????
On Thu Mar 29 10:51:00 2001 () said:
Dear Joe....would you please watch your
swearing....my children read this service.....I do not care if you are a homo or
whatever.....just please be more adult with your writing..thanks Jan
On Thu Mar 29 10:43:34 2001 () said:
JOEBLO......YOU SAY DUDE OR DUDETTE AND
THEN YOU SAY KNOW WHO I AM??????PLEASE EXPLAIN MORE.........
On Thu Mar 29 10:38:21 2001 Bambi (bambilovestim@email.com) said:
I have a
dumb question: does viral infection raise blood sugar the same as bacterial
infection? I think my friend's daughter gave me parvovirus. Blood sugars are
through the roof! Doc appt is Monday to check for sinus or other bacterial
infection, but there's really nothing to do for it but let time cure parvo.
On Thu Mar 29 10:31:39 2001 Joe () said:
Well this is the last time I'm
gonna address chickensh!t. Dude or dudette or whatever you are, you're pretty
pitiful! Well, if calling me a queer or whatever makes you feel like 'a man'
then go ahead...'cause in the grand scheme of things, you're not worth the
thought to type about. Later...hope you get treatment and some sort of purpose
in life soon! By the way...I know who you are.
On Thu Mar 29 10:27:20 2001 Sue (sueshappy@hotmail.com) said:
Misty, sorry
for your loss.
On Thu Mar 29 10:06:26 2001 Marc W (sdlightningbolts55@yahoo.com) said:
Herb... I smiled when I read your post. I did the same thing when I got the
patch off after surgery. I read everything like a little boy just learning to
read. Julie just smiled, I knew I was driving her crazy but to see again, don't
feel sorry man, be proud. Life goes on, you show me that. Sometimes this disease
takes a 2 x 4 upside your head, don't feel guilty for feeling bad. That's the
one thing I try not to do, although human nature does take over, is to compare.
Because what happened to you stands on its own and is bad, you have a right to
deal with it just like that, you know. Trust me, when it happens to you, it's
worst thing in your world, doesn't matter if someone is worse technically
speaking, this is YOUR life now. I think you know what I am getting at. CB.....
I said several nice things to you yesterday and I want you to realize that. If
need be, please go back and read what I said. I am not looking for
acknowledgements for it, but your understanding that I feel although you won't
inspire the whole group, you do inspire some and as you said and I always say,
it takes just one. Now I am off to go deal with one of my limitations by going
golfing, so Herb, don't feel bad, cuz I still go do it no matter how hard it
is!.....Marc
On Thu Mar 29 09:57:31 2001 () said:
IM GOING TO GO SEE THAT NEW MOVIE JOEsy
AND THE PUSSYCATS..........
On Thu Mar 29 09:52:58 2001 () said:
HEY JOE....CALM DOWN QUEENIE
On Thu Mar 29 09:31:02 2001 Joe () said:
To whoever posted at 2:59: Calling
me a queer? Pretty brave words from a piece of chickensh!t (who's probably only
14 or something), who won't even post his name and just spams the board.
Yeah...real brave. 'Look...I'm the man because I post crap on the board and make
fun of everyone'....Are you really as stupid as you appear to be on the board or
did you have to work hard to get that stupid?
On Thu Mar 29 09:29:50 2001 bats () said:
CB: Howdy bro....keep training!
Despite what some nay-sayers believe you KNOW you are on the right
track....don't let the negativity of a few dampen your enthusiasm. JOE: Nice
one....couldn't have said it better myself....but I will try...GAYLE: WOW
girl......such hostility....can you sleep at nite? I feel bad for you. The
success of another has you so bent. You stated it was CB himself that you didn't
like....you don't even know him.....this is not reality....it is the
cyber-world....I realize you probably know that but I think you may have needed
a reminder. Don't hate CB because he is excited and has goals....not to mention
determination and spirit. I am sure or at least hope that you have a passion in
life....share it with others....or didn't you ever learn to share. Wishing CB
would drop a dbell on his 'fat head' was disturbing....especially considering
this is board is for SUPPORT. I think you embarassed yourself with your
outburst. I am going to the gym now. Best wishes for you all. Even you Gayle.
bats
On Thu Mar 29 08:58:05 2001 Jim (jimfultz@alltel.net) said:
Not much to say
this morning except good morning and everyone have a good day. Jim
On Thu Mar 29 05:20:17 2001 Faye aka fara (fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
Good morning everyone. I have been up for what seems like hours. Couldn't
sleep, again. Well guys, I am so proud of myself today. As you know, I joined
Weight Watchers last week to hopefully help me lose sme of these pounds that I
have to lose. I followed the Food Plan faithfully and found it very easy and
didn't have to make any special meals for myself. Ate what I fixed for my
husband. Last night was my first meeting since joining and WOW!! a 6, YES, a SIX
pound weight loss. Having spent hundreds of dollars over the years to lose
weight, never having any luck, I think I have found the program that is going to
help me. I have lowered my daily insulin already, have more energy, the
neuropathy in my feet is better, and my BS's have been under control, the first
time in all the years that I have been taking insulin,10 years. So, guys, that
is why I am feeling the way I do this early morning.-----Misty, I live in the
Lakes Region of NH, Sunapee to be exact, right near the harbor of Lake Sunapee,
a 5 minute walk from my house.
On Thu Mar 29 02:57:19 2001 Jet () said:
Has anyone had any experience with
Siberian ginseng? I read on a diabetes bulletin board somewhere that it can help
lower blood sugar but I'd like to know more. I asked my doctor if it was alright
if I took it and he looked at me like I was nuts! Maybe he's right! I think he
was too stunned to object. Second, we used to say that the reason marajuana
caused the munchies was because it lowered your blood sugar. Now that I'm Type
II I'm wondering if there was any truth to that. Comments?
On Thu Mar 29 02:14:59 2001 () said:
HEY JOE...WHO MADE YOU THE CHAT POLICE
? OR ARE YOU QUEER FOR CB..? YOU WHINER....
On Thu Mar 29 01:50:51 2001 CB () said:
To Misty: Condolences on your loss.
To Joe: Thanks bro! I guess Gayle couldn't handle the ABB boards. What she calls
"self-absorption" is focus. Middle aged? So what? Mr. Universe wannabe? No, but
a sood squatter, bencher. and deadlifter? You bet! It is indeed a compliment to
call me "Freak." That puts me in good company. thanks again SQUATFREAK
On Thu Mar 29 01:17:23 2001 Joe (ja_113@hotmail.com) said:
To Gayle: I don't
normally post, I just lurk to see what's happening but this really bothered
me....In a post below your wrote CB: Try dropping one of those weights on your
fat head - might not do much for you - but it would make me feel great! You are
a first class idiot. Then you also wrote It's not just what CB said in his last
post - it's CB himself! For crying out loud, how many times must he preach about
lifting?? Does he not realize that most of us a NOT impressed. Why must he go on
and on and on.....great, fine, lift all you want - cars, trains, planes - so
what. Just shut up about it. He is nothing but a self-absorbed, middle-aged, Mr.
Universe wannabe. At least he's got the "freak" part right. Class...as in
NONE!!! What is up with the attitude? Are you always this negative? So CB posts
about lifting but you know what, if you read the posts that go on here daily,
then you'll see that certain people post about the same stuff sooner or later.
Also, are you pissed at CB because he really does have a holier than thou
attitude or are you pissed because CB is actually not letting diabetes etc get
in his way and you are unable or unwilling to do so? Would CB dropping a weight
on his head make you feel better because it would be one less person with a
better attitude and mind set than you and you wouldn't be feeling so inadequte?
I have to wonder about your posts because really, if you didn't care about CBs
lifting or weren't impressed by what he had to say then it really shouldn't have
bothered you. Oh well...whatever...I guess I won't be coming around too much
after that display...I might get picked on for something I do! Later folks
On Thu Mar 29 00:15:23 2001 Gordo (gordom@earthlink,net) said:
John V.: I am
sorry that I offended you. It was not intended that way. I have much respect and
admiration for all mentioned in my post. I did not say that I disliked hearing
about your daily needles. I meant that I didn't want them meaning that I was
going to try to control or manage my diabetes so that I could postpone those
complications as long as possible. I still include that May 24, year unknown,
testimonial of yours with my informational e-mail to newbees and anyone else
interested. I have drawn fire for being to blunt and scaring the newbees. I
think they each need something to impress on them the seriousness of this
disease and its complications I am sure that is what you also try to do in some
of your posts, as do many others. Some of us vent when we need to vent while
some of us ramble about things that relax us and decrease our stress level. All
of this and much more is directly related to helping diabetics. Marc's comments
about his experiences with his new pump were very timely. He didn't quit because
of it, but found out what was the problem and proceeded to do something about
it. The diabetic must continually learn and adapt to new information. I see in
the future that the pump will come with its own computer and continuous reading
glucose monitor for maximum glucose control automatically. Again, John, I did
not mean to single you out derogatorially but only because I have deep respect
for each of you and for your advice. Gordo (today, most of my fat is obviously
between my ears).
On Thu Mar 29 00:03:28 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Misty -
Marc W: I don't know exactly how to say this. I felt so sorry for myself the
last 2 years because of my severly limited eyesight. I now feel guilty for being
so self absorbed and selfish as to bellieve that my problem was so severe. All
the while I had the hope of seeing again, which I am now doing. In fact I am
about to drive Jodi crazy reading signs and billboards to her. It's exciting if
you haven't seen them for 2 years. But when I consider the two of you and your
lack of hope that you will ever see better again it makes me feel guilty for
being so childish about my good luck. Beleive me when I say that from this day
forward not a day will go by that I won't think of the 2 of you and pray for you
and your welfare. Herb (Bear)
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