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On Wed Jun 19 20:54:30 2002 () said:
you poeple are all insane!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Wed Jun 19 20:03:49 2002 () said:
BWD !

On Wed Jun 19 15:52:21 2002 () said:
MARC LOSES ON AWARD NIGHT TO A DIRTY PYGMIE GOAT NAMED SAMMY

On Wed Jun 19 15:48:46 2002 () said:
APPLAUSE APPLAUSE APPLAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MARC GETS NOD FOR ACADEMY AWARD//////DRAMA QUEEN CATEGORY

On Wed Jun 19 15:47:54 2002 () said:
Then Marc rides away into the sunset leaving his damsel behind. The End. {curtain draws to a close and music rises.}

On Wed Jun 19 15:46:34 2002 Faith () said:
Marc,I'm crying.

On Wed Jun 19 15:46:10 2002 Marc () said:
Sorry Faith, I must.

On Wed Jun 19 15:45:45 2002 Faith () said:
No Marc, you musn't!

On Wed Jun 19 15:45:20 2002 Marc () said:
I must Faith.

On Wed Jun 19 15:45:02 2002 Faith () said:
No Marc, don't go!

On Wed Jun 19 15:38:37 2002 () said:
GOODBYE UNTIL HE AP ATTACKS AGAIN........HIS FAVOURITE THING TO DO!!!!!!!!!!

On Wed Jun 19 15:28:06 2002 Marc W () said:
Faith, thank you but as I said, I am not part of the solution here. Anyways, staying around would be a step backwards on my goals. If you can do me one favor though, if Amy Hess comes in here can you let her know I would like to speak to her. She knows how to find me. Take care and this must be goodbye for me. I wish you well.... Marc

On Wed Jun 19 14:12:43 2002 Faith () said:
Ok Marc, thanks!! Now, let's get on to helping each other as diabetics!

On Wed Jun 19 13:42:11 2002 Jim () said:
To 12:11:13- Thanks for posting that. This is exactly why I had a near fatal heart attack. A regular stress test revealed nothing so they gave me a clean cardiac bill of health, and then 10 days later it was almost over for me. The Dr I see now wants me to get a Nuclear stress test every 6 months. This test shows insufficient blood flow to the heart as well. Jim

On Wed Jun 19 13:34:23 2002 Marc W () said:
P.S. both Jim and Faith, you are referring to a post I didn't post, I think it was the second one with Marc W at the end. I hope that clears up any misunderstanding guys....

On Wed Jun 19 13:32:44 2002 Marc W () said:
Jim... that's ok that you don't believe me. I saw weeks ago where you said you thought it was me, but that's ok. Jim, I too thought we were friends and no, I haven't posted since Dec. 14th. But Jim, let me go back a little bit to when we were friends. As a friend, I would be concerned that a friend of mine who has high blood pressure and heart problems is excuding so much negativity. From a physical stand point you have many better options to use your energy for. And Jim, I read what I wrote after I posted and it sounded like crap, so I don't blame you for not buying it. But I have no reason to defend, I only felt compelled to do one of the steps I am involved with and that is to appologize for my actions. It has been made clear to me not to focus on the forgiveness part but to focus on my true need to be positive and right the wrongs I can, and that I must accept those I can't. Crap, maybe, but it's MY truth... Take care friend......Marc

On Wed Jun 19 13:30:07 2002 Jim () said:
And, for the record, I left BWD on my own accord long before Kerry took it private. I started 1 (one) club that I can remember on Yahoo. I made someone a co-founder to help me run it, and THEY deleted the club. After that I never started another one. Let's keep the facts straight. Jim

On Wed Jun 19 13:24:38 2002 Jim () said:
Sorry Marc, not buying your last post. In that post you referred to me as Jumbo, which if anyone wants to read back, they can see that certain posts, with the same style of writing as you, refer to me as, "Jimbo, Jumbo, Dumbo, Jimmy-Boy etc. I don't believe you haven't been posting, and those posts (the ones with all the name calling and personal attacks) exhibit the vemon that is classic of you. Sad thing is, that at one point I though we were becoming fairly good friends, and shared some problems while trying to help each other out with things going on in our personal lives. IF, your last post is sincere, you still have an anger problem as far as I'm concerned. I was your "friend" once, but will never be taken for a fool again. Sorry. Jim

On Wed Jun 19 13:12:35 2002 Marc W () said:
Faith, the first post to me was what I was referring to. Your first reaction was to accuse, as mine was before. All I am saying, and Faith, this is a complement, is you are a better person then that. I will try and refrain from preaching the positive and explaining the energy negativity depletes from you because I hated being preached at myself. Take care Faith, be good....Marc

On Wed Jun 19 13:06:49 2002 Faith () said:
Marc W., thanks for the LAST post! I didn't see it before my last one. I'm glad you are doing better! Thank you for letting us who care know. I'm sorry you think what you apparently think of me, but, I assure you, I'm the same as I have always been! Again, glad to here you are doing better!

On Wed Jun 19 13:02:18 2002 Faith () said:
Marc W., if this is really you, I am very disappointed. You were one of the 'sane' ones here when I first came to this site. I know you and I didn't agree on some things, but we got past them, I THOUGHT! By your last post, if it is you, you just revealed yourself as a lurker and probably an AP'er. All I can say is "WHY"????

On Wed Jun 19 12:48:00 2002 Marc W () said:
My being here will be a one day thing probably, but I have a lengthy post ahead. To those who don't know me, don't bother reading it. On Dec 14th of last year something happened to me that I will not discuss here. But it made me look at my life and what was going on with me. I learned a lot about myself, some I will talk about here. I learned that I never dealt with my eyes. I physically dealt with them but mentally I was trashed. I locked myself in the safest place I could find, my home, came here and took on a whole new and terrible personality. I acted in the most negative way I could and was angry as you could possible be. In Dec. I deleted this place, said goodbye to many "negative" people in my life and sought out those who are positive in focus. About 6 weeks ago I started reading this place about once a week, didn't see a reason to post. I did notice an old friend in Amy H. who I would love for her to contact me, but other then that nothing worth mentioning. My reason for posting now is this, all those here who said get help, take anger management, you were all right. And to that I thank you. To those I ranted on at a personal level I owe you all apologies, my behavoir the last 2 years was unacceptable. I am sure the bats will come out and you will start swinging at me, but I understand that reaction now. But as I said to Faith, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem and I will always be part of the problem here. Faith, this to you personally. I don't think you are like this in person. I think I know you well enough that your reactions here do not personify who you really are, as mine didn't. It is unfortunate to now see to others what became of me. I hope you see yourself in this and realize you have become a different person here over the years, and you are better than that. Take care everyone, I am not reactable by e-mail so my lost to old contacts. Thanks to those that understand.........Marc

On Wed Jun 19 12:41:12 2002 () said:
Yes, dear 11:30:26, I'll agree all the ones who have given up on this site were SANE people. BUT, there are SOME sane people here who keep hoping that YOU and others of your ilk will stop your foolishness. (Of course I'm assumeing you are one of THOSE because of you responding to me @ 11:30:26). Let me address your last post, 1. "This is a familiar scene, open a new board because of the "bashing" here and then stay here to get bashed." THIS board had nothing to do with the new board. It was opened for the same reason any chat site for diabetics is opened. It was basically a result of the BWD site. 2. "Why would you open a new club so as to be able to do the things you can't do here, then stay here?" You are so off base it's sad. I didn't open the other one, I just joined it! You also flatter yourself, I can do here what I want, just as anyone else can, (look at your feeble post for example). 3. "I didn't understand it then with BWD and now. You all want a new, peaceful place, but your presence here now stirs the beast." Gee, you give me too much credit. So I "stir the beast"? A little ole Nun would probably stir the beast, it doesn't take a genius to see that! He/she/it/Tom does it all on it's own!! 4. "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem." Let me get this straight, I'm the problem here, just because I'm here??? What you are really saying is that YOU haven't been able to run all of us SANE people off, isn't that more like the truth! Boy, you really showed yourself this time!!!

On Wed Jun 19 12:34:09 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
I do not understand all the paranoia. What if some body wants some thing they can't find on this board, so what. What if some body wants to post some where else and here as well, so what? What if some body name Kerry sold some E-mail addys eons ago, so what? I have posted on the Buddies site for aprox 3 years and I have never run into some body named Kerry. I know that this will in all liklihood not work, but in an attempt to clarify my position I will state it. I am going to continue to monitor here in an attempt to offer an alternative to those newbies and oldies that apppear to be sincerely attempting to get some help and receive nothing but ridicule and insults. Herb (Bear)

On Wed Jun 19 12:11:13 2002 IMPORTANT INFORMATION (Please read & sorry for the length) said:
TUESDAY, June 18 (HealthScoutNews) -- People with diabetes who show no symptoms of heart disease during stress tests may still be susceptible to a heart condition that can only be detected by a sophisticated imaging technique, Swiss researchers say. Single-photon emission computed tomography (SPECT) myocardial perfusion imaging (MPI) can catch "silent" myocardial ischemia, a deficiency of blood supply to the heart muscle caused by an obstruction or constriction of the coronary arteries. It's a leading cause of death among people with diabetes, and can progress without warning to irreversible cardiac damage. In a study presented yesterday at the Society of Nuclear Medicine's annual meeting in Los Angeles, the Swiss researchers say SPECT MPI offers a better way to detect myocardial ischemia in people with diabetes. The study included 189 people with diabetes who were analyzed for stress-induced ischemia. They were divided into two groups -- those who'd previously experienced angina (chest pain) and those who had not. To induce stress, participants rode an exercise bicycle. Those unable to exercise were given dipyridamole, a drug used in medical tests to check blood flow to the heart. The researchers then compared the ability of electrocardiogram (ECG) and SPECT MPI to detect stress-induced ischemic defects. The SPECT MPI detected abnormalities in 56 percent of the study participants, compared to just 14 percent using the ECG. They add that people with diabetes need to be aware that, even if they don't have chest pains during stress tests, they may still be at risk for cardiovascular disease. SPECT MPI may be able to detect that risk, the researchers say. To learn more about the link between diabetes and silent myocardial ischemia, visit the American Academy of Family Physicians.

On Wed Jun 19 12:06:52 2002 () said:
12:05:09 was me, too. Marc W.

On Wed Jun 19 12:05:09 2002 () said:
Another question: How many clubs have been started on Yahoo by people who USED or STILL post on this board? How many were suddenly deleted by the owner/creator without any warning? How many were suddenly taken private (invitation only) by the owner/creator without any warning? Why do these clubs exist to stifle free speech? What are they afraid of? Why are the owners so neurotic that they delete the club at the drop of a hat? Maybe Kerry or Jumbo would care to answer? Hmmm?

On Wed Jun 19 12:03:10 2002 () said:
Faith... a P.S. to the 11:30 post, yes that is me. Marc W.

On Wed Jun 19 11:30:26 2002 () said:
Faith, the problem with what you said at 9:34 is that all the SANE people already left long ago. No sane person would endure this board for as long as some of you have. This is a familiar scene, open a new board because of the "bashing" here and then stay here to get bashed. Why would you open a new club so as to be able to do the things you can't do here, then stay here? I didn't understand it then with BWD and now. You all want a new, peaceful place, but your presence here now stirs the beast. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

On Wed Jun 19 11:20:06 2002 () said:
So FATE Why stay and post here? You must like to get bashed or you would stay at Yahoo.com Is it that that site won't let you vent? Truly Yours MARTY MOOSE

On Wed Jun 19 11:02:58 2002 () said:
Well, gee, Faith, how would YOU describe your post at 09:34:38 today? Sure sounded like venting to me. Sorry if that characterization offends you. Maybe you can shed some light on what you'd call it. Anyway, I do hope you feel better now. I mean, you did get all your frustration off your chest, right?

On Wed Jun 19 09:56:21 2002 Faith () said:
09:54:36, thanks, I already have! But, I'm still posting here!

On Wed Jun 19 09:54:48 2002 Faith () said:
Venting?? What is it with you!? When will you ever just help other diabetics here, instead of bashing!? Good grief Charlie Brown!

On Wed Jun 19 09:54:36 2002 () said:
HEY FATE GIVE THAT NEW SITE A TRY WOULD YOU, WE ARE TO SILLY FOR YOU TO I SEE. MARTY MOOSE

On Wed Jun 19 09:48:03 2002 () said:
Thanks, Faith, for venting to us. Hope you feel better now.

On Wed Jun 19 09:36:46 2002 () said:
I LOVE YOU FAITH

On Wed Jun 19 09:34:38 2002 Faith () said:
You people get more disgusting every day. The new club IS open to anyone. But, it will be a place where you dummy's will not be able to get away with what you do here. All any sane person wants is to be able to post and share w/o you nut cases bashing them. When will you people grow up, and get a life!? BTW, in regards to the question regarding a diabetic expecting, I just heard the other night on a health channel, one of the big worries at the actual birth is that the babies of diabetics tend to have big shoulders and thus may cause a difficult delivery, which may lead to a c-section, which leads to a possible longer recovery period.

On Wed Jun 19 08:03:31 2002 () said:
CB DID YOU EVER THINK THAT HE MAY BE ASKING THAT QUESTION FOR HIS WIFE, MOTHER, OR SISTER??????? I HAVE SEEN IT SPELLED BOTH WAYS........WHAT A ROYAL BOOB YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!

On Wed Jun 19 00:32:22 2002 () said:
CD WERE ALL SILLY DUCKS HERE, LIFE WOULD BE A REAL PAIN IN THE ASS WITHOUT SOME HUMOR DON'T YOU THINK? IT"S TO BAD THAT YOU HAVE NO SILLY STREAK IN YOU, MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ THE FUNNY PAPER ONCE IN A WHILE OR MAYBE TV LAND WOULD HELP YOU YOUR GOOD FRIEND MARTY MOOSE

On Tue Jun 18 17:13:49 2002 CB () said:
Following a question re inhaled insulin, and 7, maybe 8 silly posts follow! I guess info isn't shared here, just silly inanities. BTW, George Mendosa, note spelling, has an informative site. So, it is 8 silly posts. At risk for WHAT? Heart trouble, muscle loss, fat gain, undernourishment? Silly!

On Tue Jun 18 16:55:45 2002 George Mendoza (gmendoza@pfmarketing.net) said:
Is a women at high risk when pregnant if she has diabetese.

On Tue Jun 18 16:55:08 2002 () said:
Seems like you started it ERBEE with your send me your E mail address I'll show you the way

On Tue Jun 18 16:51:14 2002 () said:
No CD have you? Thought you knew almost every thing about this disease.

On Tue Jun 18 16:39:21 2002 WELL?????????????????? () said:
On Tue Jun 18 15:38:23 2002 () said: HERBIE......AND EVERY ONE...........IS IT ME OR IS IT A HECK OF A COINCIDENCE THAT ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE AROUND HERE JUST ABOUT THE TIME THE 'NEW & IMPROVED' BWD STARTS UP????????? START READING BACK ON THE 12TH......MUST BE MEMBERSHIP DRIVE TIME AT THE SHINY NEW CLUB!!!!!!

On Tue Jun 18 16:23:20 2002 () said:
Yahoo sucks big time. I wouldn't even use there mail system.

On Tue Jun 18 15:44:14 2002 () said:
HAY-YA-YA-YA....HAY-YA-YA-YA..............HAY-YA-YA-YA................HEE HEE.......

On Tue Jun 18 15:41:57 2002 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH) said:
DHD! DHD! DHD! DHD! DHD! DHD! DHD! DHD! JOIN US OR WE WILL INFLICT A GREAT CURSE ON YOU!!!!!!!!!

On Tue Jun 18 15:38:23 2002 () said:
HERBIE......AND EVERY ONE...........IS IT ME OR IS IT A HECK OF A COINCIDENCE THAT ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE AROUND HERE JUST ABOUT THE TIME THE 'NEW & IMPROVED' BWD STARTS UP????????? START READING BACK ON THE 12TH......MUST BE MEMBERSHIP DRIVE TIME AT THE SHINY NEW CLUB!!!!!!

On Tue Jun 18 15:31:02 2002 CB () said:
Anybody hear anything about imminent availabilty of oral/inhaled insulin?

On Tue Jun 18 15:28:40 2002 . (.) said:
And Herb, if you're so damn weary of it all, why couldn't you just post the stupid link without having to be so dictatorial about it?!

On Tue Jun 18 15:19:37 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
I'm growing weary of this game. I never said that it was not a members board. I said that no invitation or approvals by members were required. Any one can join just by signing up. How could the moderators eliminate any trouble makers if there was not a membership requirement. I don't understand what the problem is. Why can't those who want to go, go. Why can't those who want to stay just stay. Why can't those who want to post both places just do that with out all the venom. Herb (Bear)

On Tue Jun 18 15:10:53 2002 () said:
Here is the link for the club for those who need or want it. It is an open club; just copy & paste this link into the address link of your browser and click "GO". BTW, the club says it used to be the old Buddies with Diabetes club on Yahoo. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Diabetics_helping_Diabetics/join

On Tue Jun 18 15:00:55 2002 () said:
HERB...........YAHOO DIRECTORY SAYS IT IS A MEMBERS ONLY CLUB.............LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Tue Jun 18 14:46:16 2002 . (.) said:
A revamped BWB is the big secret? At least now I know I'm not missing out on a really good diabetes board! Thanks to whoever is was that finally "revealed" the big secret. Yawn.

On Tue Jun 18 14:43:40 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
At this point in time the only reason is that I am such a 'puter dummy. The name of the club as mentioned here is Diabetics Helping Diabetics. I have been attempting to share a link that would take folks directly in and they keep getting the Yahoo directory with all of it's propaganda. If I can come up with a direct link I will share it here. In the meantime any one who is seriously interested can go through the Yahoo directory. Herb (Bear)

On Tue Jun 18 14:43:30 2002 Faith () said:
BTW, no one ever caused BWD to be shut down!!

On Tue Jun 18 14:42:20 2002 Faith () said:
Herb is telling the truth. Go there and find out for yourself. Also, I don't plan on leaving this site either. When I first came here, it was a wonderful place, and I keep hoping it will be again. When you children grow tired of your boring games, maybe we can get back to helping each other, not constantly put others down. One can hope!!

On Tue Jun 18 14:34:20 2002 () said:
Herb: the question remain unanswered. If this is an OPEN club with moderators to control things and no invitation is required, why won't you share the address/link/name here? Why treat this like some deep, dark secret. Maybe some people on here are unwilling to reveal their email address, either on here or to someone they don't know. Heaven knows, I get enough spam every day so I protect my email address.

On Tue Jun 18 14:29:52 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Response to 13:56:46 1. It is not a private club. Any one can join no invitation is required. It was started June 12th not the 13th. There is not a club member by the name of Kerry. Keep attacking here to raise our membership?? It started June 12th and only has 20 members. You can totally hide your E-mail addy if you so choose. Once again there is no member by the name of Kerry. Now I would like to ask, who is it that is not telling the truth. Herb (Bear)

On Tue Jun 18 14:29:36 2002 () said:
SHAME ON KERRY WHAT THE HELL?

On Tue Jun 18 14:23:31 2002 () said:
Yes ERB, But when we ask why, we get your advice that does not work on me just you. I tink the newbee's also have a hard time trying to figure out CD's diet tips, and weight training thing. What is that the only things he knows? There are much more to this disease than that. The men also get slammed by rude, crule folks.

On Tue Jun 18 13:56:46 2002 () said:
Diabetics_helping_Diabetics...ON YAHOO GROUPS...THAT IS THE NAME ....IT WAS FORMERLY CALLED BWD..........IT IS A PRIVATE CLUB STARTED JUNE 13 OF THIS YEAR..........HERB IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH........JUST ANOTHER ATTEMPT BY KERRY AND HER CRONIES TO SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN........THEY KEEP ATTACKING ON HERE TO RAISE THERE MEMBER SHIP.............CANT JOIN UNLESS YOU GIVE EMAIL ADDY.........THAT WAY KERRY AKA TEXAS CAN KEEP GETTING INCOME FOR SELLING THE ADDYS.................SHAME....

On Tue Jun 18 13:45:05 2002 () said:
Jumbo, it's too bad you are too stupid and too stubborn to leave. Well, at least we had a few moments of hope that we'd be rid of your profanity-filled postings and stupidity. Oh well, life goes on.

On Tue Jun 18 13:13:05 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
The difference between this and that is that ladies will not have to be subjected to the crudest of vulgar comments. A diabetic who is only trying to share what has worked for them will not be subjected to insults and ridicule. And newbies will not be cussed out and told to go some where else all the while wondering what they have stumbled into. With regards to the no E-mail excuse. I'm sorry but this one just will not fly. There are far to many free services available. Herb (Bear)

On Tue Jun 18 13:08:36 2002 Jim () said:
Sounds like there are a couple of AP's on here who are worried that they will only have each other to snipe at, doesn't it? No, I will remain here until the place closes. You will never drive me out. I will join other places, but also stay here to spite you. Anyone who believes that today was the first posting of 12:10:42, please let me know. I am selling Mt Fuji because I own it. Have a good day everyone. Jim

On Tue Jun 18 12:35:58 2002 () said:
If that site is such a good place, then why oh why do you guys remain here HERB-JUMBO-FAITH-CB ROM You guys are so good maybe there is a whole new group that really needs your sound advise. How much can you keep spewing at each other?

On Tue Jun 18 12:28:47 2002 () said:
HERB You have no problem giving out your diabetic information here, what the hell is the difference between this and that?

On Tue Jun 18 12:17:41 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
The new board is an open board. Any one can join in, no invitations required. To insure fairness in any disputes that may arise (We hope that there are none) there will be a group of moderators. I was the one asking for the E-mail addy, not the board. I want to know who I am giving out info to. Herb (Bear)

On Tue Jun 18 12:15:49 2002 () said:
And Jumbo, in case you didn't get the point from 12:10:42, that goes double for me. With your potty mouth and childish intolerant attitudes, you are about as much fun as a porcupine in a balloon factory. Please do go elsewhere, but be careful. With your potty mouth you'll get kicked out (again!) -- remember getting kicked out of BWD. At least this time you can't delete the club, like you've done before. You've gotten good at bailing out on clubs and people -- please do it again here!

On Tue Jun 18 12:15:31 2002 () said:
I WANT YOU HERB, TO SHOW ME THE WAY, EVERYDAY People, Just go to almost any search engine type in diabetic chat, or message boards and see what you come up with. IS THIS THE WAY?

On Tue Jun 18 12:12:57 2002 () said:
Ohh Jumbo, your post sounds like a petty grade-school child. Well, at least we won't have to play with you anymore, nyah! I'm taking my marbles and going home to mommie. Real mature, Jimbo!

On Tue Jun 18 12:10:42 2002 . (.) said:
Jim: you're missing the point. I don't WANT to know you. From what I've seen of you here, I don't care to know you. However, that doesn't mean I don't want a diabetic site that may be useful to me. People are supposed to be free to be able to disagree or even dislike one another - with a moderator, temperments and discussions can be monitored and the subject (diabetes) adhered to. I've not posted her until today - you've just pushed me to my limit!

On Tue Jun 18 11:48:14 2002 Jim () said:
11:39:26- At least us posters that know each other, and want to help one another will be able to carry on an e-conversation without your daily barrage of ignorant comments and baby games. Herb- Thanks ofr posting about the new place. I've emailed you already for info. Jim

On Tue Jun 18 11:45:28 2002 . (.) said:
If it's by invitation only - keep it. I moved way past that kind of behavior years ago - - sounds a bit like segregation, doesn't it? Responses??? Herb??? Faith???

On Tue Jun 18 11:39:26 2002 () said:
To 11:02:32, this new, wonderful site may be one of those "invitation only" sites, where someone who is already a member has to send you an email invitation first. The invitation contains a link to the site, where you register and the "powers-that-be" on that site decide whether or not to approve you. It sounds a lot like Buddies was when the paranoid/neurotic goof-balls who started it as a public club suddenly made it private, but invite only. Then those same goof-balls (Jimbo-Jumbo did this, too) deleted the club from Yahoo -- basically dumping everyone on their posterior -- because they got upset over something. I think Herb is just trying to stir up more trouble here, and Faith you're not helping matters any! You'd think these people who claim to be adults would act like adults and not junior high schoolers. Nyah, nyah, nyah -- we've got a new club and we're not going to let you in -- nyah, nyah, nyah! Grow up, Herb! Grow up, Faith.

On Tue Jun 18 11:02:32 2002 . (.) said:
And if you DON'T HAVE E-MAIL???? What then Faith??? Herb is apparently NOT willing to "show you the way". You people suck!

On Tue Jun 18 10:58:09 2002 Faith () said:
I see nothing is going to change here! Herb is right! If anyone on here wants to go to a site where you will not be berated all the time, email him, and he will show you the way!

On Tue Jun 18 10:53:26 2002 . (.) said:
Herb: Perhaps not everyone has an e-mail account. If you were so concerned about people being able to access a helpful site, you would post the information. You said yourself that anyone abusing the site, or it's posters, would be blocked. Perhaps I was misreading your post and you were addressing only CB, Zoie, and Jim. I used to think you cared that there were people here who only read because they were to put off by some of the behaviors to post. Your post makes you sound like a selfish child who is unwilling to share. Shame on you!

On Tue Jun 18 01:10:57 2002 () said:
OH WHERE OH WHERE HAVE ALL THE BAD DIABETICS GONE? OH WHERE OH WHERE CAN THEY BE? WITH THERE BLOOD SUGARS UP THERE BLOOD SUGARS DOWN OH WHERE OH WHERE CAN THEY BE?

On Tue Jun 18 00:13:19 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
To 23:25:59 What part of "Send me an E-mail" don't you understand? Herb (Bear)

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