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On Thu May 23 22:58:05 2002 J () said:
thanks - Jim - and others who answered my questions on neuropathy. I really appreciate your input. I have tried Amitriptyline (Elavil) and did not have any relief. I will certainly talk to my MD about Neurontin. Altho - what about side effects. That is a pretty powerful drug with some nasty Side Effects. I've worked with a lot of Patients/clients on Neurontin and they can get rather lathargic. (I'm a nurse in the mental health field) Also - I don't have much pain. Just the numbness. It drives me crazy sometimes.

On Thu May 23 17:22:39 2002 () said:
yes, I spelled it wrong..I am very visully impaired and use a program called VocalEyes which quit on me yesterday,,so I was winging it,,,,amitriptyline is a very mild anti depressent and they found it works well in foot pain caused by neurophacy ...it got me off the oyycodene and Tylenol..which is good..

On Thu May 23 15:56:14 2002 . (.) said:
Perhaps the search turned up nothing because it was spelled incorrectly - it's amitriptyline.

On Thu May 23 15:33:39 2002 Jim () said:
To 15:20- I'm always looking for something better than the Neurontin, and would like to research Amatripline. I did a search on Altavista and it came up with nothing. I've heard of something close to the name you described. Can you verify the spelling? Please don't think I'm picking apart your post or being the spell checker because I'm not. Like I said, I have heard of something close to the drug you mentioned but can't remember what it is, and would appreciate your help. Jim

On Thu May 23 15:20:03 2002 () said:
Hi J, the anamosity is mostly caused by some of the people on here that are fundamental religionists posting their religious ranting on what is a diabetic chat. Anyway, many of us have the neurophacy and use various drugs and treatments...I found that Amatripline works for me in the evening so I can sleep....I am sure some of the others on here will send you some suggestions..

On Thu May 23 15:16:26 2002 Jim () said:
J- You'll need to try and ignore most of the sludge that's churned up on here. As far as the Neuropathy, I used to have it real bad in my hands, feet, legs etc, but once I got my diabetes under better control, it reversed out of everywhere but my feet. They're toast and will never be better until a cure is found. My hands are still real cold most of the time, but the numbness and pain are nearly gone. The only things I've found to treat my feet and get some relief are clean, dry, white cotton socks to bed, as well as 1200-1800mg of Neurontin (Gabapentin) an hour before bed. If you smoke, STOP. Smoking decreases blood flow anyway, but in diabetics who have Neuropathy, it makes things even worse. If I can answer any more of your questions, I will be happy to help. Jim

On Thu May 23 14:11:55 2002 J () said:
This is my 1st time on this chat line. I've been reading some of the back comments. Where is all the anamosity coming from?? I tho't this was a chat room for people w/diabetes to discuss their disease and maybe help others. I would like to talk to someone who has dealt with neuropathy and if anything helps??

On Thu May 23 13:59:34 2002 J (jweiss91@hotmail.com) said:
Anyone out there having neuropathy in feet and occ hands??

On Thu May 23 13:58:22 2002 J () said:
Anyone out there having neuropathy in you feet and hands??

On Thu May 23 13:57:26 2002 () said:
Who farted????

On Thu May 23 13:10:09 2002 () said:
THERE ARE SATAN WORSHIPPERS ON THIS CHAT !

On Thu May 23 11:04:00 2002 () said:
SHANNON = COULD BE 23 YEAR OLD FAT CHICK WITH A MUSTACHE..........SMELLS LIKE YEAST OR BREAD..........

On Thu May 23 11:02:14 2002 () said:
SHANNON = A BIG FAT HAIRY GUY TROLLING FOR CHICKS ON DIABETIC WEBSITE.......PROBABLY SMELLS LIKE STALE SALAMI........

On Thu May 23 10:21:31 2002 Shannon (babyborn89@hotmail.com) said:
Hey Allison, saw your post. Wanna talk still? Let me know. I think half of the stuff these people are writing is useless junk. If you wanna talk about something useful, I'm always willing to listen. And no, I'm not a big fat hairy guy trying to stalk you! (LOL!!) W/B

On Thu May 23 10:15:51 2002 Shannon (babyborn89@hotmail.com) said:
I want to know how all of you feel about living with Diabetes. Do you hate it? Let me know how you feel.

On Thu May 23 01:00:12 2002 () said:
what about sex with friends on friendship day ? is that OK ?

On Thu May 23 00:45:31 2002 () said:
Sorry Mary, even reading Rabbi Bernsteins posts is better than what you write.

On Wed May 22 20:10:35 2002 Allison (catspoiler2000@yahoo.com) said:
trying to find a chat with people in it

On Wed May 22 20:09:28 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
I said earlier on this chat today-wondered why I have been on here. I tried to share my thoughts about diabetes. I tried to share what works for me,what doesn't. I must say,that over time,I seriously regret ever coming on here. I came here for support,found some very kind people,such as the late Fara/Faye,Herb Shaw,John V,esp Faith,Mary,Bambi and many others,including Gordo,and CB. I find it very unfair that there seem to be posters(AP'ers) who have resorted to personal attacks on me. If I used profane words,it has only been in response to the amount of rather uncivilized treatment by certain posters(they shall remain nameless) I have a very fine GP,a supportive family,friends,a very good diabetic dietician. I can frankly see the area of so-called declining returns;I question whether this chat can really help people,if the Diabetes Education and Research Centre allows the amount of abusive language and sarcastic put downs by these posters. I feel now that I don't belong on here,no matter how much I have tried. To Faith,Mary,CB,so many good fellow diabetic posters on here,I thank you for your time and efforts to help me. Mary,there is nothing at all wrong with your words that you used. You or Faith may have read a book titled:"Words That Heal,Words That Harm". Good luck to all on here. Marc Bernstein.

On Wed May 22 19:17:03 2002 To On Wed May 22 15:02:42 2002 (Pancreas Transplant) said:
You can have a pancreas transplant any time you want. All you have to do is pay for it......no lines no lists just pay and get it

On Wed May 22 18:10:52 2002 Marc Bernstein () said:
I am so sick and tired of these insincere,unkind APs. Honestly,I am not making up anything. I will not comment anymore. I am quite fed up with a bunch of nameless AP'ers. If all I get is being put down,then there's no justice!! Don't tell me about "Shrinks",ok?! I've come to deeply regret coming on this chat board. I asked for sympathy,support and friendship. While Faith and a few others have been there and shown respect,it's too bad a bunch of AP'ers can't do the same. This is abusive. and personal. Marc.

On Wed May 22 17:45:38 2002 Mary () said:
This is friendship week. Can't you be friendly for a day?

On Wed May 22 17:40:18 2002 () said:
Mary why don't you take all that sickining religious whining back to the Readers Digest where it belongs ..

On Wed May 22 16:42:34 2002 () said:
I"VE LEARNED......THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HARBORS THE PRIESTS WHO MOLEST OUR YOUNG SONS AND THE POLICE AND POLITICIANS DOCK THEIR HEADS UP THEIR ASSES............

On Wed May 22 16:26:16 2002 () said:
I've learned.... That when you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock elsewhere.

On Wed May 22 16:16:58 2002 () said:
I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right

On Wed May 22 15:32:58 2002 Faith () said:
Dear 14:41:32..... Once a person has had chickenpox, he or she has immunity against chickenpox and will not have the infection again. The chickenpox virus stays in a person's body for his or her lifetime, although it is inactive (dormant). Later in life (usually in older adult years), the virus may become active again and cause shingles (herpes zoster). Shingles (herpes zoster) is a viral infection of the nerve roots that typically results in pain and rash. It is caused by the same virus that causes chickenpox (herpes varicella). Shingles occurs as a result of reactivation of the virus in a person who has already had chickenpox. Both of these above statements are quotes from: http://content.health.msn.com/encyclopedia/article/1738.53388 BTW, since Lupus is an auto immune ploblem, thus there MAY be a connection of the above to Lupus! As my previous post stated, I THINK, lupus MAY be associated to ones having shingles in the past. BUT, I know for a FACT chinckenpox and shingles are related. Now, 14:41:32, as you were saying????? (To quote you/he/she/it Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!

On Wed May 22 15:15:39 2002 Mary () said:
I recieved this in an e-mail. Thought is was good. Happy Friendship Week I've learned.... That the best classroom in the world is at the feet of an elderly person.I've learned.... That when you're in love, it shows.I've learned.... That just one person saying to me, "You've made my day!" makes my day.I've learned.... That having a child fall asleep in your arms is one of the most peaceful feelings in the world.I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right.I've learned....That you should never say "no" to a gift from a child. I've learned....That no matter how serious your life requires you to be, everyone needs a friend to act goofy with.I've learned.... That sometimes all a person needs is a hand to hold and a heart to understand.I've learned.... That simple walks with my father around the block on summer nights when I was a child did wonders for me as an adult.I've learned....That life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes.I've learned.... That we should be glad God doesn't give us everything we ask for. I've learned.... That money doesn't buy class.I've learned.... That it's those small daily happenings that make life so spectacular.I've learned... That under everyone's hard shell is someone who wants to be appreciated and loved. I've learned.... That the Lord didn't do it all in one day. What makes me think I can? I've learned.... That to ignore the facts does not change the facts. I've learned.... That when you plan to get even with someone, you are only letting that person continue to hurt you. I've learned.... That love, not time, heals all wounds. I've learned.... That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am. I've learned.... That everyone you meet deserves to be greeted with a smile. I've learned.... That there's nothing sweeter than sleeping with your babies and feeling their breath on your cheeks. I've learned.... That no one is perfect until you fall in love with them. I've learned.... That life is tough, but I'm tougher. I've learned.... That opportunities are never lost; someone will take the ones you miss. I've learned.... That when you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock elsewhere. I've learned.... That I wish I could have told my Dad that I love him one more time before he passed away. I've learned.... That one should keep his words both soft and tender, because tomorrow he may have to eat them. I've learned.... That a smile is an inexpensive way to improve your looks. I've learned.... That I can't choose how I feel, but I can choose what I do about it. I've learned.... That when your newly born child holds your little finger in his little fist, that you're hooked for life. I've learned.... That everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it. I've learned ... That it is best to give advice in only two circumstances; when it is requested and when it is a life threatening situation. I've learned.... That the less time I have to work with, the more things I get done. HAPPY FRIENDSHIP WEEK TO YOU!!!!!! YOU ARE MY FRIEND AND I AM HONORED!

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On Wed May 22 15:02:42 2002 () said:
I spoke to a friend of mine who was a diabetic and since has had a pancreas transplant six years ago, he does not take Insulin but does take a handfull of tablets each day. So now I am trying to get my name down for one of these transplants, but I also do beleive that the way forward is stem cell research, I know there are some people out there that do not agree, but if this the only wat to get a cure then I am all for it. I am sorry if I have upset anyone but this is my point of view. So what are your views on this?

On Wed May 22 14:41:32 2002 () said:
Faith, how can you post all those rumors and old wifes tales about lupus on here...? Go look on the lupus.com support site before you put all that nonsense on here...you're as bad as Rabbi Bernstein and the Snapple Attack !

On Wed May 22 14:35:40 2002 () said:
my sister was scared by a negro once and got shingles

On Wed May 22 14:16:42 2002 Faith () said:
Marc, Your welcome! I don't know a lot about Lupus, but I know that there are two kinds. One attacks the inside, and one the skin. The one internally is the worse. A former secretary of my husbands died of that a couple of years ago. I THINK?? that if you have ever had shingles you are very likley to develope Lupus. I don't know that for sure, but I believe my sister-in-law told me that in regards to my neice. She had shingles when she was a teenager. They say shingles is tied to one having Chicken Pox as a child. So, IF all the above is true, it appears they are all connected. Whatever, it is not a pleasent experience. As before, you and your family are in my thoughts.

On Wed May 22 13:01:37 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Thanks,Faith. It's always nice to hear from you. I'm very appreciative of your support. The problem is we still don't exactly know what kind of Lupus my sister has. I understand there is a serious kind,SLE,but then,my sister has had so many tests,and you know that the doctors have told her this:she may have Lupus,but they're not really sure. It is made more complex by the fact that my sister who is not well,whether it's Lupus,or something simular,and she refuses to involve either my mother or I,for fear that we won't be able to handle it emotionally. So she only tells us she is feeling great,which we are aware of is not exactly the truth. She is often angry,overworked,and since a serious allergic reaction in the hospital to Cipro years ago,(she got toxic shock) her nervous system has never been the same. Being a diabetic,I know what asthma can do to one's diabetes. I do know and advise anyone taking any asthmatic medication or puffers,that according to my GP,some of them,like Advair 250(Which I've been using for my asthma) or this newer asthma drug,Singular,can affect blood pressure and blood sugars. This is now what's happening to me. I feel deeply for my sister and her Lupus,but if she won't level with my mother or I,then,what to do? We're trying to help her. All we know is she had a bunch of tests,most came back negative,except there is some sort of spot on her liver. She has some sort of dental swelling that according to her doctor,gives indication of her having Lupus,but with so many constant tests,there doesn't seem to be an answer. I think there is a lesser form of Lupus,Skin type,it is made more complex by her blood clot,which all of her + our doctors tell us is 90 per cent due to Lupus. We're hoping the blood clot will in time disolve from her arm. I didn't mean to offend or get angry at anyone on here,simply dealing with diabetes,lack of sleep due to asthma,and my sister's Lupus,makes things rather stressed. Thanks again,Faith. Marc.

On Wed May 22 09:18:38 2002 Faith () said:
Marc B., I've been meaning to mention to you, I have a neice with Lupus. She helps her husband run their business, (a masonary company), has three children and maintains a beautiful home. But, some days she can barely function. I know somewhat of what your sister is going through. My thoughts are with her and your family.

On Wed May 22 08:55:20 2002 To Marc B () said:
But what TYPE doe she have???

On Wed May 22 08:54:35 2002 () said:
8:51:03 = FAITH..............Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Wed May 22 08:54:20 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Thanks for your answer. I did not intend to offend,only that you seemed to question if she had Lupus. I told you yes. I never intended to use profanity against you. But I'm glad to know how angry you are.

On Wed May 22 08:51:03 2002 . (.) said:
Marc Bernstein NOT EMOTIONAL???? Is that a hoot, or what!!

On Wed May 22 08:49:14 2002 o (O) said:
SUPPORT STEM CELL RESEARCH. IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE FOR A CURE FROM ALL THESE DISEASES.SUPPORTTTTTT SUPPORTTTT!!!!!!!!

On Wed May 22 00:14:40 2002 CB () said:
"I am proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free..." Pinkos do not urge the government to get Constitutional (smaller!); they stand for big, intrusive gov't. The money and time wasted on this nonsense would be better put to use in upgrading the military!

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