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On Sat May 18 22:27:25 2002 Marc () said:
I'm feeling tired. Tired of fighting,asking for help from diabetics on here,tired of the abuse,tired of my words being twisted,tired of the treatment by some unknown AP. It doesn't matter anymore. I'm feeling depressed,(yes,diabetic do suffer depression) about my sister's Lupus,we have no family,though we have wonderful counsins and Aunts and Uncles,etc,they al live far away in USA/or Ottawa/Montreal. I'm too tired and worn out to post anymore. Marc

On Sat May 18 22:18:15 2002 Marc Paul Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
The posts @ 20:34:43,20:33:14,20:36:45,and (seems to be the same sick poster) 20:37:11=You are so warped,so evil,so utterly twisted. You are nothing but a malicious lier!! You are not merely sick,you are a twisted and incredibly hateful bigot!!! Plus,you are obviously lacking in any control. You take words of feeling,words that I've written with great emotional depth,and have only distorted them. Mocked me,others on this chat. Why don't you simply find another chat service to be on line? You don't truly belong here. I am not sure of who you are. All I know is you keep on trying to provoke me,upset me with the most vile,dishonorable falsehoods about my mother,my private life. My diabetes-you mock me,and with the greatest of sadistic pleasures,enjoy putting me and other people down. I have pity for you. I will not dignify your demented and unholy comments that you have posted. They deserve to be erased. If my presence here on this board is going mean more of your AP personal attacks,then,if you'll pardon me,I will choose my only alternative,(though I want and need this board) I just can't or will not be on the board,and subject myself to these never-ending attacks. With all the stress now in my life with the Lupus in my family,my own diabetes,I simply don't need this now. That's all. Marc Paul Bernstein.

On Sat May 18 22:00:20 2002 () said:
To the Poster on May 18th,:17:57:49=I'm twisted and hateful with my mocking words. Full of my usual useless and harmful garbage!! I never will know the kindness or friendship of another human being. I rant,I say insulting words,I take my words and distort them,just to be evil. I am such an unforgiving person. you are used to me by now,Tom,I do know who you are,I know you have issues you can't deal with.But I really don't care. It affects all of our lives here on this chat? Marc Bernstein.

On Sat May 18 20:37:11 2002 () said:
MARC B & MOMMY

On Sat May 18 20:36:45 2002 () said:
CB & MARC B 4EVER........AN ABOMINATION..........

On Sat May 18 20:35:14 2002 () said:
13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.

On Sat May 18 20:34:43 2002 () said:
11 The man who lies with his father's wife has uncovered his father's nakedness; both of them shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.

On Sat May 18 20:04:46 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
To the Poster on May 18th,:17:57:49=Your twisted and hateful mocking words. Full of your usual useless and harmful garbage!! You never will know the kindness or friendship of another human being. You rant,you say insulting words,you take my words and distort them,just to be evil. You are such an unforgiving person. I'm used to you by now,Tom,I do know who you are,I understand you have issues you can't deal with. I really don't care. I asked you to be compassionate,stop twisting my words and mocking me. I'm sorry that you are not able to just once,try to apply the golden rule:treat people with respect and show consideration for their diabetes and how it affects all of our lives here on this chat? Marc Bernstein.

On Sat May 18 19:19:06 2002 Faith () said:
MarcB- Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad I have helped you in some small way. Only heaven knows why I'm still coming to this site. But, I intend to continue as long as I see that I may be helping someone cope with this disease. If anyone wants to talk to me about their diabetes, ask away. IF I can help, I will.

On Sat May 18 19:13:32 2002 () said:
jesus what a whiner

On Sat May 18 17:57:49 2002 () said:
I am a tormenting poor excuse for a human being!! Blast me!! I think I have to be the most insensitive unhappy diabetic on this chat!! All I am good for is trying to torment or upset people. I extend an invitation to meet with CB,or Faith or Gordon,Herb,Jim,etc.in my car, as a friend and fellow diabetic,who has been framed by these people(including you,Mary,and Amy,etc) There is a secret deal here but I won't tell them till they get here. Just the fact that I respect what CB and Faith and others have said about their big guts affecting their lives. They have always offered (incl esp Sam) useless advise. I know you care alot but at home,due to my sister's Lupus,and certain worsening things about both Lupus and being a diabetic as far as I'm concerned,and her own depression,(she lost my father,her husband,he died 13 years ago,of a heart attack,while they were both on a film industry cruise to Cannes,(France) He died at 70 years'old,in 1988(October 12) my mother(a retired opera singer) (their marriage was something very special, Well,without my father,my mother (though she sees a fine psychiatrist) is profoundly depressed much of the time. You add the fact that she is alone,and finds the illneses in my family unbearable,so that is why I ask you to respect me,and show me,in turn some compassion. Just once. I'm having a hard time managing,and all I want and need right now is just some sympathetic support. I hope others here will provide it,if you can't,won't,don't care,or just insist upon mocking me. I'm very thin skin,and too overly sensitive. Just living under a big tent. I can't fix it,I need a hammer and nails. And I'm worried about my family,as I am a smoker. Marc Bernstein.

On Sat May 18 17:21:14 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
You tormenting poor excuse for a human being!! Blast you!! I think you have to be the most insensitive unhappy diabetic on this chat!! All you are good for is trying to torment or upset people. I extend an invitation to meet with CB,or Faith or Gordon,Herb,Jim,etc.in Toronto,as a friend and fellow diabetic,who has been helped by these people(including you,Mary,and Amy,etc) There is no secret deal here. Just the fact that I respect what CB and Faith and others have said about how diabetes affects their lives. They have always offered (incl esp Sam) useful,positive advise. I know you don't care at all,but at home,due to my sister's Lupus,and certain worsening things about both Lupus and being a diabetic as far as I'm concerned,and her own depression,(she lost my father,her husband,he died 13 years ago,of a heart attack,while they were both on a film industry cruise to Cannes,(France) He died at 70 years'old,in 1988(October 12) my mother(a retired opera singer) (their marriage was something very special,as my father,an executive in film industry,worked far too hard,had angina for almost 6 years prior to his death. He was afraid of hospitals. I and my mother miss my father very much. How may you ask,does it affect my diabetes? Well,without my father,my mother (though she sees a fine psychiatrist) is profoundly depressed much of the time. You add the fact that she is alone,and finds the illneses in my family unbearable,so that is why I ask you to respect me,and show me,in turn some compassion. Just once. I'm having a hard time managing,and all I want and need right now is just some sympathetic support. I hope others here will provide it,if you can't,won't,don't care,or just insist upon mocking me. No,I'm not thinned skin,nor too overly sensitive. Just living under a big burden. I can't fix it,I need my family. And I'm worried about my family,as a son and brother should. Marc Bernstein.

On Sat May 18 16:32:20 2002 () said:
does the beast mean non-christian ? or jewish ? please explaIN MORE

On Sat May 18 16:30:52 2002 () said:
Please God, don't kill me !

On Sat May 18 13:30:49 2002 Book of Leviticus...Chapter 20 () said:
10 "If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death. 11 The man who lies with his father's wife has uncovered his father's nakedness; both of them shall be put to death, their blood is upon them. 12 If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall be put to death; they have committed incest, their blood is upon them. 13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them. 14 If a man takes a wife and her mother also, it is wickedness; they shall be burned with fire, both he and they, that there may be no wickedness among you. 15 If a man lies with a beast, he shall be put to death; and you shall kill the beast. 16 If a woman approaches any beast and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the beast; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them. 17 "If a man takes his sister, a daughter of his father or a daughter of his mother, and sees her nakedness, and she sees his nakedness, it is a shameful thing, and they shall be cut off in the sight of the children of their people; he has uncovered his sister's nakedness, he shall bear his iniquity.

On Sat May 18 13:25:11 2002 () said:
MARC B....YOU KEEP BEGGING CB AKA ColonBlow TO 'MEET' YOU IN TORONTO....SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US?????????

On Sat May 18 12:00:11 2002 CB () said:
Purple Onion: Glad to answer questions here. Bear in mind some APs might attack what I say. For starters, stretch before lifting. 2. 3x a week is good to start. Day 1, chest/triceps Day 2, legs Day 3, shoulders/back MWF or TuThuSat. Other days, treadmill or stair climber. General goals are twofold, lose bodyfat and build muscle.

On Sat May 18 09:57:05 2002 () said:
Amy don't you like men ?

On Sat May 18 09:24:51 2002 amy () said:
I think you need to take your cats and your rude comments and get a life. I think it's a shane you don't have anything better to do. I enjoy coming to this site and reading about other people coping with diabetes it helps to hear other people's problems and how they deal with them. I think your just a very sick and twisted person

On Sat May 18 07:33:12 2002 () said:
C.B. do you like cats ?

On Sat May 18 04:18:40 2002 CB () said:
18:04:09 gas probably never eaten rapini! I forgot, diabetics should only eat a little iceberg lettuce, and miniscule amounts of broccoli, and tomato. Too high in nutrients. I would l;ike to think rapini would be used to treat ignorant fools like you! Re the cat comment, I am sick of this cruel poking of fun at serious illnesses. You give me good reason to think YOU belong in a nursing home!

On Sat May 18 04:09:37 2002 () said:
Rapini is used mostly in treatment

On Sat May 18 04:08:30 2002 () said:
do cats like mum

On Sat May 18 02:31:59 2002 CB () said:
Marc, Gotta get off line....Thought I would post a response. Ask your dietitian about plain goat yogurt with garlic as a dip for celery sticks and a little cauliflower and broccoli to "nosh" on at night. Carbs are low, and the fiber will be filling. I am on insulin, so I can easily cover my food intake. On oral meds, your situation is different.

On Sat May 18 02:07:06 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
CB,thank you,for your kind,civilized and humane comments. You are a gentlemen and a scholar. Amy,I have not used the Freestyle meter yet. I guess I've gotten used to the ease of the Ultra meter. It's hard indeed to remain calm when these rather inhumane and (I agree 100 per cent) uncivil posters(?) keep adding their most inane and non-diabetes comments. It doesn't help a diabetic. We all ate out tonight;I have been eating salads for lunch/dinner. I had a polenta and goat cheese and endive salad,with watercress. (It came with a bitter vegie,can't recall the name-oh,yeah,rapini. When I saw my diabetes dietician this past week,her feeling was that I ought to see an endo. This is a sticky situation,CB. Since my GP(he's close to retirement age) sees me once a month,for diabetes testing. He wants/insists upon handling everything medically for me. The problem,being he has been my GP for much of my life(at least 30 years) and though I have an eye doctor(specialist in diabetes-related diseases,my GP doesn't like it when I see other specialists. He gets very angry. He has been a fine and very caring doctor,my problem also is he doesn't like it if I ask too many diabetes questions,and he quite often doesn't have the time. 8-12 minutes (If I'm lucky) is all the time I have with him. Worried about my sister's Lupus,she works in the film industry,is overworked,(she works as an ex for "Dreamworks" films in Toronto. I know that anxiety and depression in diabetes are in themselves very hard to deal with. I try to keep busy,with alot of archival work in classical music industry. One article I was reading in "Diabetes Forecast" magazine,discussed the many reasons why type 2 diabetics often fail with oral diabetic pills. It worries me,and I turn to this board for emotional support. I know that I'm not managing my diabetes as well as I could,CB,but with so much chronic stress (in family) and with this disease,it's pretty frustrating,though my dietician told me I was being overly hard on myself. No,I don't feel sorry for myself at all,just I guess angry,not so much about being a diabetic,as the fact that my sister has worse. She has a very positive attitude. Which I try to keep in mind for myself. Of course,nighttime eating,and the fact of food being comforting to a diabetic,force me to remember I can't get away with this,I have to have some self-control. CB,once again,I extend a most gracious invitation to you,if you are ever in Toronto,to meet me. You have much to teach us here on this chat;you and Gordon and Faith and Herb are fellow diabetes,who know what this disease is all about. Marc Bernstein. (Sorry,if I was long-winded) (I had a lot to say)

On Sat May 18 01:39:25 2002 CB () said:
Marc: I am actually calm as I write this; the cruel, cold, demeaning, discourteous, uncaring, cold, malicious, and downright hateful posts, like those of the fool(s?) below have unfortunately driven many one time posters from here. I fear even those who post legit questions don't read the answers because they are offended by the low-life "humor" of some of the Aps. Keep posting!

On Sat May 18 01:33:08 2002 amy () said:
Marc let us know how you like the freestyle, I would be interested in knowing

On Sat May 18 01:31:02 2002 amy () said:
My youngest daughter is graduating this weekend. Alot of stress!! I've been taking shots for 17 years, I never thought I could give myself shots, but you know what, you do what you have to do. You learn that you can't depend on anyone else, so you just do it. Pretty soon it doesn't bother you any more, it just get's so easy. I take most of my shots in my stomach. Insulin is best absorbed there, that's what I've been told.

On Fri May 17 23:35:51 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Listen,everyone who posts here is a diabetic. We're all trying to cope as best as we can with this disease. So,I'll ignore your comments. I'm quite aware of what you are trying to do. If you had a family member with another illness (like my sister-today was her birthday;she has Lupus,which as far as I'm concerned,is more hard to deal with than being a diabetic. If you have read "Diabetes Forecast" Magazine,you might have a more compassionate understanding about how having an illness in one's family can affect a diabetic. I'm aware of what your next "phrase" will be. Yes,I want to and do celebrate life. I'd like a cure for diabetes,and Lupus too. And by any means possible. Yeah,I'm not afraid to sign my own name. Marc Bernstein.

On Fri May 17 22:37:25 2002 () said:
does mum like cats

On Fri May 17 22:19:21 2002 () said:
Marc B many nursing homes have cats to pet.

On Fri May 17 21:39:38 2002 () said:
Marc B do you like to pet cats ?

On Fri May 17 21:35:01 2002 () said:
i luv faith tooo

On Fri May 17 16:43:42 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
I just bought the new meter: FreeStyle. Anyone using it? How does it work for you? Purple Onion: I am continuing to use Metformin. It seems to control my blood sugars. Where can you inject insulin? You can't do it under your arm,can you?

On Fri May 17 16:12:35 2002 () said:
I LOVE YOU FAITH.......EVEN IF YOU ARE A SNAGGLE TOOTHED WITCH......

On Fri May 17 09:38:57 2002 Faith () said:
Le, The tablets I was referring to are available over the counter. They are Glucose Tablets, they will bring up the blood glucose. As far as getting the highs down, that is done with, for Type 2's, with diet and exercise, but, meds is often included. BTW, the Glucose Tablets come and a couple of different flavors. I like the orange. I use an Accu-Chek Advantage meter. I'm a military dependent and the clinic gave it to me. I hope this helps.

On Fri May 17 09:08:58 2002 CB () said:
"Purple Onion" 396? Did you drop the glucophage on doctor's orders? If not, I would call him/her and talk this over! I was 159 this AM and I don't like that.

On Fri May 17 08:28:08 2002 Purple Onion () said:
Marc B, your veins wouldn't matter about injecting insulin. It goes under the skin, not into the vein. Thank goodness!

On Fri May 17 08:14:18 2002 Purple Onion () said:
Well Mary, I don't know what to do about the metformin. I stopped mine 3 days ago after hearing how dangerous it is. I increased my shots by 10 units each for a total of 30 extra per day since then. Now this morning my reading (Accu-Check Advantage machine) was 386 and my feet are throbbing. So, I took my 100 mg of Glucophage because I'm sort of at a loss. Not much of a good set of choices, is there?

On Fri May 17 05:38:15 2002 CB () said:
The Ultra is a very good meter, easy to use and fast! It isn't too pricey either, although the strips are expensive...aren't they all!

On Fri May 17 02:26:43 2002 Mary () said:
Marc B. I think people need to talk to their doctor about Metformin. I take Glucovance and it may have that drug in it. I haven't checked yet but I think it is a combination of two different drugs. I haven't been on this board for awhile. Have been doing things to get ready for my son's graduation. Tomorrow night is the prom and he was dissapointed because his rented tux hasn't been delivered to the store yet. The lady tried to assure him that it would be there on time but I could see the sweat popping out on him. There are so many things to do for prom and graduation but he is the baby of the family so we will deal with it. I believe his tux will be in tomorrow so I will just keep bs low by not worring about. Mary

On Fri May 17 02:24:01 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Oh,by the way,Mary,I was going to mention about the One Touch Ultra Meter: my meter has lately been giving me different readings(using different fingers on each hand.) The range is sometimes rather excentric-earlier this evening,it read 6.7. On another finger,9.4,on my other hand,10.8. I can tell you that if you test often during the day,and you get readings that vary alot,it makes one more stressed,which of course,doesn't help managing this disease. I'm often hungry at night,so eating at night is always a problem,as some of these oral diabetic pills take away some of your pleasure in eating.

On Fri May 17 02:16:14 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Hi,Mary,how are you doing? My sugars have gotten much improved recently. I'm on a walking programe(long walks,at least a mile each day) What do you think of the Metformin reports? It is scary,but I'd rather not try new medication now. It takes a while to become used to each new diabetic meds. I just read that a new type of meter may soon become available. You'll find an article about it in the "Diabetic Forecast Magazine". (This month's issue)

On Fri May 17 01:53:38 2002 Mary () said:
Hi Marc B.

On Fri May 17 01:49:27 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Amy,I have been using One Touch Ultra for about two years. I started with Dex,but my doctor switched me to One Touch Ultra. I have found that it is easy to use,gives a fairly good glucose reading. A new meter has just come on the market in Toronto(Canada) "FreeStyle". I have ordered it from my pharmacy. I read the articles on Metformin(Glucophage) I phoned my doctor the other day;he said that Metformin has been helping to keep my sugars fairly stable. He lowered the dose I have been taking. He's doing some research on his own. I'm told that my alternative is insulin,so I would prefer to keep on the oral diabetic pills,as insulin needles scare me. (I have very thin veins,so the tech has to use what they call a "Baby Needle"(or thin type) I have been reading about inhaled insulin. anyone who is type 2 on it? Any info would be helpful.

On Thu May 16 23:51:36 2002 Mary () said:
Amy, I have a one touch ultra and the pharmacy gave me a Dex. I like the one touch ultra the best. It seems to be more accurate than the Dex.

On Thu May 16 23:17:49 2002 amy () said:
I use a one touch porfile blood machine. Which one do you others use and which one is suppose to be the best????

On Thu May 16 20:31:24 2002 () said:
i luv faith

On Thu May 16 17:59:55 2002 Le () said:
If your dad is Diabetic, a glucose tester is a necessity. Oral meds for type 2 are by prescription only. High blood pressure meds have to be considered when the doc prescribes the diabetes medication.

On Thu May 16 17:23:05 2002 Le (le_s_phouthavong@comerica.com) said:
I think my dad is type 2 diabetes because he's 58 years old. How do you control hyperglycemia when his blood sugar are too high. the symptoms of high and low are so similar I guess having a testing device comes in handy. As for the tablets; can he get that off the counter or does it have to be prescribe by his doctors. Do you take the medicine when he only have the high blood pressure? Thanks for the help Le

On Thu May 16 15:34:19 2002 () said:
ME THINKS ME SAW UGRY WITCH ON HERE........

On Thu May 16 15:26:36 2002 Faith () said:
Le, First let me ask, what type of diabetes does your father have? Orange Juice is not really used like it was when I first started out, 34 years ago. It and candy can make the blood sugars go up too high. He really should use gluco tablets. The symptoms you describe can describe my hi's and low's, that's where personal testing comes in. You can buy the testing meters at almost any drug store, Wal-Mart, etc. It is wise that you are looking into buying one.

On Thu May 16 14:19:48 2002 Le (le_s_phouthavong@comerica.com) said:
I have a question for my dad who has diabetic. We'll I know that symptons of diabetes include hunger and feeling very tired and sleepy much of the time. Is that symtoms of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar)? If everytime he gets tired and if he drink orang juice or candy; will that prevent him from feeling tired and sleepy? Another question I have is how does he check his blood sugar? Is there some type of device for this? If so how can he get one?? The answers to my questions will be very helpful. Thanks for your time, Le

On Thu May 16 14:13:37 2002 () said:
HEY CB AKA ColonBlow..........WHY MUST YOU COME ON HERE AND TALK THAT WAY AT 10:47:19???????????? DO NOT TRY TO SAY IT WAS NOT YOU EITHER............PLEASE EXPLAIN

On Thu May 16 12:43:18 2002 CB () said:
Sorry, bad typo- infections.

On Thu May 16 10:47:19 2002 () said:
09.41.30 = QUEER HORSES PATOOTIE

On Thu May 16 09:41:30 2002 () said:
Just what is INFECTTUONSM ? asked my DE, He thought might be someone trying to make up medical words.

On Thu May 16 01:53:33 2002 CB () said:
Nobody here? Well, CB aka Squats is back at it. Legs are sore from yesterday and did a job on the back tonight. Intensity is the name of the game here! Expect to start deadlifting as soon as the doc gives the ok. Found an interesting bit of info on vitamin D. Maximum safe level is 10,000 international units. Barring any specific metabolic problems (apart from Diabetes), 1000 iu/day should be no problem. RE infections, higher than RDA for Vitamin C and Betacarotenes should help there. It is well known that tolerance for C increases in the presence of physical stress. Also, there are benefits in spreading vitamin intake over the course of the day, especially water soluble vites. Just a couple of thoughts in the interest of health!

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