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On Tue Apr 30 21:48:19 2002 () said:
Good post CB, now you are starting to
make sense to us about lifting.
On Tue Apr 30 18:42:09 2002 Mary () said:
Faith, sorry your husband got
sick. Hope he is better soon.
On Tue Apr 30 17:19:02 2002 CB () said:
I will check the American College of
Sports Medicine's journal...couldn't get into it online. This organization does
speak highly of weight traing BTW. The mental problems you mentioned might very
well result from overtraining. This is where, due to poor diet or too much
training, the exercised body parts do not recover. Will check into the "reverse
curve", which I suspect may be muscle loss instead of gain, Again, poor diet or
too much lifting might play a role in that. Do it right, and the benefits come.
Thanks dor the info!
On Tue Apr 30 17:12:34 2002 Faith () said:
Mary, I wish I could, but I can't
take off from work for four hours at a time. BTW, he didn't make it today. He
was on his way and got sick. He thinks his blood pressure is too low. Now that
he is losing weight his BP is probably going down. I guess I will not get a
lecture tonight! LOL
On Tue Apr 30 16:20:42 2002 () said:
GOD TOLD ME TO HATE YOU !
On Tue Apr 30 15:30:57 2002 () said:
cb....did you not post a nonexistant
url for a article from washington university just last week????? god will make
you pay for being such a hypocrite you gall durn fool.....god will make you
pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Tue Apr 30 15:19:08 2002 () said:
Now comes the next assault of the
religionists .
On Tue Apr 30 15:05:30 2002 () said:
11:53: what about us non Christian
diabetics will your God kill us now ?
On Tue Apr 30 15:01:02 2002 () said:
CB just because you cannot find a
report does not mean someone is posting lies....I nave the artical in my hand,
is much too long for here, also look at April Issue American College of Sports
Medicine and the Cooper Institute of Dallas where over a 10 year period the
followed 16878 people involved in lifting ages 40 to 87.....also the Nurses
Health Study adjusted for men in mid to upper income level,,,,etc, Reporters
name is John Blaire, I do not have the url, so you will need to look it
up.....but this is the last time I try to help you out with your posts.
On Tue Apr 30 14:53:49 2002 () said:
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On Tue Apr 30 14:45:50 2002 Mary () said:
Faith, will they let you go with
your husband to the training sessions? I got to take one person with me. It
might help you if they let you go with him.
On Tue Apr 30 14:22:50 2002 Faith () said:
Good afternoon all! I guess I'm
going to start setting my alarm for 3AM and start checking to see what my BG's
are at that time. My morning readings have been from 160 to over 300. Not good!!
If they are dropping, then I guess I'll lower my basal rates during the night.
Isn't it strange how things can be great for a long time, then with vitually no
changes in routine, things change. My husband went for his second 4-hour
training session for diabeties. I'll now hear all about it tonight, and how I'm
doing everything wrong. LOL He has two more 4-hour sessions to go. I think way
back there (1968) when I started this mess, I had one session with the RDE. Of
course, I've had a few refresher courses, (like when I went on the pump),
through the years, but never 4-4 hour sessions. He is really learning alot.
Which, since he is the cook, will be a benefit for BOTH of us. You all take
care.
On Tue Apr 30 12:55:53 2002 CB () said:
I find it disgusting that falsehoods
are posted on this sight. Those of us who are really trying to help people don't
find references to nonexistent articles funny. No url=nonexistent.
On Tue Apr 30 12:52:19 2002 CB () said:
For the diabetic, increased
antioxidant intake is essential, especially if he or she pumps iron.
Interestingly, the NY Times did not print the article mentioned. The fact is,
intensive exercise is good for diabetics unless complications prevent it. That
includes weight training! BTW Ap, just what is the "reverse curve"? Please
explain.
On Tue Apr 30 12:37:34 2002 A Fellow Diabetic (Says) said:
This chat board
should be re-named to....Chat Board for The Anonymous Crazy People. Because I
see nothing about diabetes on this board. At the top of the chat board where it
says, what drives you crazy? That doesn't mean, this is a chat for crazy
people....you AP'S took that one question to heart! Now you need to
understand....so....I....will....type....slowly.
This....is...not....a....chat...board....for....crazy...people.
It....is....a....chat...board...for....D-i-a-b-e-t-e-s. Come to think about it,
I'm not sure if there is a chat for the criminally insane. But, you never know,
at least do a search.
On Tue Apr 30 11:53:57 2002 STOP THE FIGHTING!!!! () said:
The Bible speaks
about every person needing forgiveness and every person needing to forgive. Why?
Because we are all sinners in need of God's forgiveness. None of us is perfect.
We need God's grace and we need to extend that same mercy to others. This
subject is the very essence of true Christianity. Until we understand it, we
will not really understand God Himself. Likely, if you are reading this post,
you want to receive God's, and your fellow chatters forgiveness, and you want to
forgive. You want your slate to be clean. The problem is how? If we do not
receive this grace from God, and extend it to others, the Scriptures make it
clear that we will die in our sins. God has made forgiveness so important, that
all our happiness and fulfillment depend on it--in this life and in the next. He
knew that all of us, without exception will be wronged. Furthermore, all of us
will treat others wrongly. All of us will sin against God and others. These sins
block and hinder our relationship with Him. Jesus spoke more of forgiveness than
possibly any other topic. This is a lesson we must learn on deeper and deeper
levels until the very core of our being is changed into Love. There is no life
apart from God's love. Therefore, there is no life apart from forgiveness, for
forgiveness is the seal, the mark, and the proof of Love. If we say we have love
and cannot walk in forgiveness, we deceive ourselves, and our "love" is only a
parody of the real thing.
On Tue Apr 30 11:45:44 2002 hunky-doorey () said:
You are the same person
that has tried to get this place shut down for years. You try to sound like
different people when you post. Knock it off and go away!!!!
On Tue Apr 30 11:33:41 2002 () said:
Agree with 19;45;55,this chat must be
shut down. It is beyond help. I cannot let my children read here I have added it
to my computer filth filter.
On Tue Apr 30 11:22:52 2002 () said:
Can't we all just get along?
On Tue Apr 30 09:10:14 2002 () said:
It takes GUTS to say JESUS.
On Tue Apr 30 02:32:42 2002 () said:
Also included a study of different
weight/age groups and adverse reactions to the free radicals that were released
in intensive weight training. Depression was like , but much more intense than
that found in long distance runners. Intresting..was also re-printed in NY Times
last Sunday as well as support studies on the reverse curve in weight and power
lifters.
On Tue Apr 30 02:21:17 2002 CB () said:
23:05:16- Please post a url for the
article. I agree weight traing can decimate the immune system, especially if
diet is to low in nutrients to allow recovery, If you are going to lift, vitamin
supplements are essential as is increased complete proteins to fuel muscle
recovery. Neurotic behavior? Certain steroids might do that, but it isn't
germain to weight training as exercise. Again, please post the url!
On Mon Apr 29 23:05:16 2002 () said:
Read the latest New England Journal of
Sports Medicine on weight lifting, the reverse curve and the bad effects on the
immune systems. Also, weight liftings connection to chronic depression and
neurotic behavior.
On Mon Apr 29 22:59:51 2002 () said:
C.B. does that mean all AP's are
hateful Athestic posters ? Or just some ? please explain better.
On Mon Apr 29 22:44:14 2002 () said:
This must be returned to the Christian
family website it is supposed to be. You can't even say Jesus or simple personal
testimony without the hateful atheistic AP's attacking.
On Mon Apr 29 22:38:20 2002 () said:
This place must be shut down, WRITE THE
WEBMASTER !
On Mon Apr 29 19:55:11 2002 Big Ben () said:
Biil- Maybe they should shut
down Hollywood also, because the kids watch all those crappie movies and TV
shows then act out what they see and say. It's not this board that makes kids
the way they are.
On Mon Apr 29 19:47:31 2002 () said:
Take it from on expert Joy-Boy
On Mon Apr 29 19:45:55 2002 Bill (?) said:
Actually 15:59:28, supposably is
a word (adverb) look it up. You know I must come to your defence Joy, (Sorry
Joy, but I gotta :) ) My name is Bill, and I know Joy, (by the way, she is not
Sheri) I meet Joy 3 years ago, back when this chat board use to be what it was
meant for. A place where diabetics could come and help each other. Both of us
use to post our emails here, thats how we became friends, and still email each
other to this day. (But, AP'ers, you wouldn't know anything about friend's, or
making friends!) When the trouble started on this board, I decided to leave. We
both only come here occasionally now. There use to be good information on this
board. Joy is a caring person, and it bothers her to see, this nut, or assorted
nut's, still harassing people on this chat board. I received a email from her
today telling me how this nonsense was still going on here, and what she posted.
It's funny how the AP'er only attacked Joy's spelling but not the content. That
tells me, it's because everything she said, was the truth! I could care less if
this chat board gets shut down,or not. In fact, it needs to be shut down. When a
website allows this kind of content, where children can access this site, and
read this junk...well then I think it's high time someone turned them in, and
make them accountable for their chat board! That's my 2 cent's!
On Mon Apr 29 18:03:36 2002 nacole wiggins (wigginsnf@yahoo.com) said:
My
grandmother is 57 or 58 and she has just been diagnosed with diabetes and they
told her she cant work because her foot would never heal. It leans to the side
and she can barely walk. In order for her to work she needs a special shoe made
and i just had a baby and i cant help her out but is ther an organization who
can.. Unemployment wont let her collect any money and i dont know if she can get
a public aid card, we keep getting the run around. Im in Illinois and if you
have any suggestions i would gladly take them Thanks. Nacole
On Mon Apr 29 16:21:50 2002 () said:
and I forgot this one....diabitics
should be "diabetics",,,,,,,,,,
On Mon Apr 29 16:05:46 2002 () said:
Hey Joy, maybe its you APING us trying
to get this place shut down. Wicked witch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Mon Apr 29 16:05:25 2002 () said:
Tee Hee
On Mon Apr 29 15:59:28 2002 () said:
Joy = Sheri .......plane should be
PLAIN.......responsibly should be "responsibility".....supposably is not a
word..should be "supposedly"....formate should be "format"........not harassing
you...just trying to help you 'pell more gooder.....heh heh
On Mon Apr 29 14:20:24 2002 Joy (In My Opinion) said:
I'm starting to think
the AP on here must be the person who made & runs this website. Who else
would stick around for soooooo many years posting nasty post day after day on
this website! This website should be reported for abuse! If the Ap is not
someone from DERC...then the AP is a "very seriously disturbed person!" I'm not
joking either, someone who would stay year after year posting the same nasty
posts and attacking the same people! well...this has nothing to do with,
"getting a life" or anything else. This is just plane and simply a "very, very,
very, disturbed person!" But,,you people already know this. Shame on DERC for
not taking more responsibly for their website! Why would they create a site
"supposably" to help diabitics share their thoughts, then desert the site? More,
& more internet laws are being addressed everyday! Maybe someday soon, this
kind of abuse will also be stopped. This person(s) needs to be stopped, because
we already know how mean, & hateful, & abusive this person is on this
chat, one can only imagine who this person harasses and abuses around them in
their everyday life! I know for a fact, this website could find out who this
person is, or change the formate of this website, to make it harder for people
like this to harass others. So, my question to DERC is, why won't they? The only
reason I can see for them not doing something about this is, 1. They just don't
care, or 2. Its someone from DERC! Either way you look at it, its a poor way to
run a website and should be reported! Just to let the AP(s) know, when you
attack me, and we all know you will ;). I will not respond. GoodDay Everyone*
On Mon Apr 29 14:13:06 2002 () said:
On Mon Apr 29 10:27:30 2002 Faith ()
said: Herb,your finger was right on the mark. As usual after your post our
friend showed it's true colors. I'm still waiting on the results of my brain
work taken last week. Don't think I have a Real Attention Span, but they are
checking anyway. Big Gut readings in the mornings are running pretty high.
Trying to get them down. Guess I'll have to adjust my food intake or 'Ralph's
(pump). My husband is doing great with his "Dumb Diet". But, boy does he gloat
over me with it, LOL. Love, Faith
On Mon Apr 29 13:51:14 2002 () said:
11.58.02 = GUTTERMOUTH MARC W OR C OR
WHATEVER PERSONALITY HAS TAKEN OVER HIS MIND TODAY
On Mon Apr 29 11:58:02 2002 () said:
Hummm Faith, I didn't think your
religion allowed you to refer to another human being as it.....not very
Christian of you.
On Mon Apr 29 10:27:30 2002 Faith () said:
Herb, your post was right on the
mark. As usual after your post our 'friend' does what he/she/it always does,
showed his/her/it's true colors. I'm still waiting on the results of my blood
work taken last week. Don't think I have Rheumatoid Arthritis, but they are
checking anyway. BG's readings in the mornings are running pretty high. Trying
to get them down. Guess I'll have to adjust my basal rates on 'Ralph' (pump). My
husband is doing great with his "D". But, boy does he gloat over me with it,
LOL.
On Mon Apr 29 09:12:54 2002 () said:
To: 01:48:06 a dick dance is a military
term.
On Mon Apr 29 09:10:02 2002 () said:
Christians are the worst killers and
bigots history has ever produced.
On Mon Apr 29 04:16:31 2002 CB () said:
Ok, to restate my previous post more
simply, I was 1. Denying being a bigot/Nazi/KKK member. I am an evangelical
Christian, so bigotry is unacceptable. 2. Over the years, I have been attacked
for advocating intense exercise (resistance of course!), diets with more
vitamins and minerals, supplements in "mega doses" whatever those are, and
gaining of lean muscle weight. Numerous times, I have read a warning after a
post to "check with your CDE" implying I do things that could injure or kill a
Diabetic! I doubt of many CDE's would take issue with many of my posts. Some
will, of course, but others will not. Therefore we should get the reasons for
both opinions, and go from there. I hope this clarifies.
On Mon Apr 29 03:12:31 2002 () said:
....hummm suicide, Jimbo can tell
people about suicide....
On Mon Apr 29 03:11:02 2002 () said:
cb please rewrite your post so someone
other than yourself can understand it.
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