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On Sun Apr 28 23:25:02 2002 CB () said:
To 17:56:32 I don't know if you are
responding to my response to falsely describing me as a bigot or my saying DE's
(better SOME)DEs would agree with my health practices. Still waiting for an Ap
attacker to quote a CDE on some of the issues I have raised! Newbies, always
check out ANYTHING you read here...BOTH sides of the issue in question.
On Sun Apr 28 23:07:23 2002 () said:
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On Sat Apr 27 20:21:00 2002 Sam (ozone # 5) said:
Herb (Bear)...thought I
would drop a note to say YEA! I agree with your post totally, and I am glad you
are still posting. The A.P.'s are a sick crew, no personal lives, just
attack..too bad. You are a brave man..(not for posting to the A.P.'s) but to
live with the complications you have in your life, and keep on. The Lantus
didn't work for me..didn't cover 24 hours, I gained weight, maybe water weight?
And am back on the pump full time. I am on the road, but my thoughts are with
you & Jodi & Beth, and the ongoing problems..my Son is also very sick,
and I sympathize. He's 35. It's a tough world, as someone I knew said.
On Sat Apr 27 17:56:52 2002 () said:
Well cb, that explains a lot about
you.
On Sat Apr 27 17:39:27 2002 CB () said:
Still waiting for an alternative to
weight training to increase muscle mass, bone density, and sugar control. So I
must conclude that there isn't one. See Aps, you attack, but have nothing to
offer. I dare say even your DE would agree with me! Its time to end this!
On Sat Apr 27 17:32:38 2002 CB () said:
Nazi? KKK? I am of an ethnic group
hated by the KKK and hated by Nazis. Before posting inanities, you ought to
think!
On Sat Apr 27 17:11:09 2002 () said:
Turn your racist mind and take a look
at what the other religions are doing....so you and Herb keep your Nazi KKK
ideas to yourselves.
On Sat Apr 27 17:05:35 2002 CB () said:
"Holy Roller?" ?????? The faith I
hold to is Reformational, which is not into the "holy roller bigot bench." BTW,
is care of the body wrong? Also, do you know that some of the largest hospitals
in this country were started by Christians and Jews. In So Cal, there is
Cedars-Sinai. Throughout the South, there are numerous medical centers that were
started by Baptists. Without them, you might not have that Emergency Room to go
to! Attacking people whose spititual forebears cared about the sick doesn't
sound cool to me.
On Sat Apr 27 16:17:23 2002 () said:
C.B. screw your Christian perspective
what about looking at the world from someplace other that your holy roller bigot
bench.
On Sat Apr 27 14:18:18 2002 CB () said:
Herb, thanks! You have good
psychological insight. However, objectively, we both know the Aps don't post
alternatives because there are NONE!!! If there are, they definitely do not know
what they are. I see people lifting even in wheelchairs! From a Christian
perspective, care of the body has a place. If an individual can tailor diet and
supplements to retard the disabling effects of this disease, why not do it? It
is easy to lasj out against "megadoses" of vitamins without defining what a
megadose is. It is easy to ignore muscle loss and fat increase due to
insufficient protein while deluding yourself into thinking the RDA is
sufficient! It is easy to blame all infections on Diabetes without considering
other causes for immune system decimation. I always ask, "What can I do about
it?" I think this post should cause a couple of attacks! heh heh.
On Sat Apr 27 11:49:40 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
CB, your
recent post got me to thiking. (That's a scary thought.) The AP'rs don't attack
thoughts, principals, or ethics. This is because they find them very hard to
attack with any king of logic. What they are attacking is you, Faith, Me or
anybody who has something in their life that provides satisfaction or happiness.
Whatever it is that makes us happy they cannot refute so they make their attack
personal. They will attack any one personally who seems to have a confidence or
peace in their life. How do you refute or protect yourself from an attack on
your character, belief system, or principals that you live by? You can't, so
this is why they continue to attack in this manner. The answer to the question
as to why they do this has to lie in the abscence of these qualities in their
lives which makes them miserable. They are extremely jealous of others happiness
and confidence in life so they attempt to insure that everyone else is just as
miserable as they are. When this does not work it infuriates them and they
intensify the attack. The only answer I see to this is for all of those who can
to just go about their business and do their best to ignore the attacks. Let's
do everything we can to answer questions, especially those of the newbies. And
we must continue to support each other as much as possible. I am confident that
this will create a firestorm of rhetoric and attacks, but so be it. Herb (Bear)
On Sat Apr 27 11:19:49 2002 But the Aps still don't post alternatives! They just
attack. (BIT OF IRONY HERE) said:
I posted and who
attacked??????????????
On Sat Apr 27 01:52:17 2002 CB () said:
So, Tufts University in a study
confirmed what I have long posted here. But the Aps still don't post
alternatives! They just attack.
On Sat Apr 27 01:48:06 2002 () said:
whats a dick dance ?
On Sat Apr 27 00:19:19 2002 () said:
Now we'll have CB doing a dick
dance
On Fri Apr 26 19:06:42 2002 THIS IS NOT FROM CB () said:
Weight Training May
Help Elderly Keep Diabetes under Control Going to the gym may help senior
diabetics to control their blood sugar levels, say researchers at the USDA Human
Nutritional Research Center on Aging at Tufts University. The study of 31
diabetics with an average age of 66, found that those who regularly took part in
a weight-training program had better control over their blood sugar levels than
those who did not workout with weights. Skeletal muscle removes 70-80% of the
blood sugar from the bloodstream, thus weight-training benefits diabetics by
increasing muscle mass and consequently the body's uptake of blood sugar.
SOURCE/REFERENCE: Reported by www.reutershealth.com on the 11th April 2001
On Fri Apr 26 12:04:10 2002 () said:
ALL OF YOU THAT ARE STILL CAPABLE OF
SEX, GET TO IT!
On Fri Apr 26 10:44:11 2002 () said:
CB, if I had done less drinking in my
younger days, maybe I wouldn't be having all the problems with beer joints I'm
now having. Now it is too difficult to do much of anything. Even walking is hard
on me. I wish I had access to AA. That is a very good way to stay sober. So, for
all of you still capable of walking, GET TO IT!
On Fri Apr 26 10:27:36 2002 Faith () said:
CB, if I had done more exercising
in my younger days, maybe I wouldn't be having all the problems with my joints
I'm now having. Now it is too difficult to do much of anything. Even walking is
hard on me. I wish I had access to a swimming pool. That is a very good way to
exercise. Your muscles really get a work out, working against the water. So, for
all of you still capable of exercising, GET TO IT!
On Fri Apr 26 10:06:19 2002 () said:
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On Fri Apr 26 09:38:50 2002 () said:
On Fri Apr 26 08:30:06 2002 CB () said:
I am back! Worked mouth today hard and it feels good. Can't wait to start giving
advise again! The tonge wagging, the teeth moving, the work...the weight gain,
the need for new genes ...controling you people. Terrific package.
On Fri Apr 26 09:33:23 2002 () said:
KILL OFF THE WEAK AND SICK AMERICA
NEEDS TO BE A NATION OF ARYAN MEN LIKE CB !
On Fri Apr 26 09:27:15 2002 () said:
what do you think we should do with the
people that can't lift ? Into the Death Camps ?
On Fri Apr 26 09:25:35 2002 () said:
CB why do you always refer to DE's as
SHE ? Is that you hate DE's, (which we all know you do) or is it that you hate
women ?
On Fri Apr 26 08:30:06 2002 CB () said:
I am back! Worked mouth today hard
and it feels good. Can't wait to start giving advise again! The tonge wagging,
the teeth moving, the work...the weight gain, the need for new genes
...controling you people. Terrific package.
On Fri Apr 26 06:26:37 2002 CB () said:
On and on? You bet! How else to
improve bone density, body strength, reduce bodyfat, increase insulin
sensitivity, and all systems go? What do YOU say? Funny, no Ap ever suggests any
course of action than "Ask your DE." Is she supposed to know instead of you? I
say again, if you are sick of reading my posts, then submit another way to get
these benefits. Newly diagnosed people can benefit if they start lifting before
complications hit. It is for their benefit I keep hitting this, with changes as
I learn more. Again, let's see YOUR approach.
On Fri Apr 26 05:26:43 2002 () said:
and on and on.......
On Fri Apr 26 05:20:50 2002 CB () said:
INTENSITY is back! Worked chest
today hard and it feels good. Can't wait to start squattin again! The bar on the
shoulders, the discs, the work...the weight gain, the need for new
jeans...better control. Terrific package.
On Fri Apr 26 05:15:35 2002 CB () said:
Faith, your post on type 2 was
well-put. These days kids don't usually get sufficient exercise and
over-processed flours and fats deprive them of needed nutrients. Both fast food
and the food pyramid do harm! Fast food is too high in fat and too low in
vitamins. The pyramid is too high in starch and too low in protein. Carbs are
the body's main energy source. Amino acids, which make up proteins, are the
building blocks. Kids need more fat than adults. Again, healthy fats, as in
cold-pressed oils, NOT the heat processed kinds which are deadly. Again Faith,
good job!
On Fri Apr 26 02:17:43 2002 chris piche (omega_urchin@hotmail.com) said:
I'd
appreciate if you would refrain from using that language.
On Fri Apr 26 02:15:56 2002 Chris Piche (omega_urchin) said:
How many people
on average die of diabetes per year
On Fri Apr 26 02:02:47 2002 () said:
What ring would that be? (Penis ring)?
Are you a dirty old priest?
On Fri Apr 26 00:17:53 2002 () said:
kiss my ring
On Fri Apr 26 00:16:42 2002 () said:
00:05 watch out or you'll have the
Baptists all doing a dick dance to get rid of the Catholics
On Fri Apr 26 00:14:18 2002 () said:
Not only does religion want all our
money it wants to diddle our little boys !
On Fri Apr 26 00:05:14 2002 () said:
Where do you sign up for P. O. C. A. P.
P.? I want to join, help get rid of all those Dirty Bastards. No womder the
Church wants to protect the childrn. That way all the priest sluts can have them
first. I hope the church falls flat on it's face.
On Thu Apr 25 21:24:10 2002 Mary () said:
Protect Our Chat Against Anomymous
Posters=POCAAP
On Thu Apr 25 14:57:19 2002 Founder of P.O.C.A.P.P. () said:
P.O.C.A.P.P.
{pronounced poe-cap} means Protect Our Children Against Perverted
Priests.....Join now!!!!!!!
On Thu Apr 25 14:32:11 2002 Dewey () said:
Hello?
On Thu Apr 25 13:10:28 2002 () said:
WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMEN TODAY TO HAVE
ALL CHURCHES CLOSED AND BOARDED UP!!!!!!! THE GOVERNMENT SHOUD TREAT THEM AS
TERRORISTS AND FREEZE AND SEIZE ALL THEIR ASSETS BECAUSE OF THOSE CHILD RAPING
SICKOS!!!!WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR KIDS!!!!!!!!
On Thu Apr 25 13:02:33 2002 () said:
MORE CATHYLICK BABIES = MORE POPE POWER
On Thu Apr 25 12:51:52 2002 () said:
hjs38@swbUll.net
On Thu Apr 25 12:49:36 2002 () said:
right-on herb
On Thu Apr 25 12:46:18 2002 () said:
hjs38@swbell.net
On Thu Apr 25 12:46:17 2002 This is sickening!!!! () said:
"U.S. Roman
Catholic cardinals recommend the dismissal of a priest "who has become notorious
and is guilty of the serial, predatory, sexual abuse of minors." But they could
not agree on a policy to deal with priests accused for the first time of
molesting a minor" *************************What the hell is there to disagree
on????? Whether it is the first time or the 100th time,it is still wrong for
these faggots to prey on our youth!!!!! The hell with it!!!! I'm moving to
China!!!!!!!!!
On Thu Apr 25 12:43:22 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Connie: I'm
sorry that you did not receive any responses to your inquiry. I was out of town
for a week and don't remember reading your post when I was trying to review the
posts from when I was gone. Also, I don't seem to be able to find it this
morning. I can guess what your question was from Faith's response. Despite the
fact that I have had 3 surgeries in the last couple of years I don't know what
was done about my medications since I was semi comatose at the time. They took
my foot off in the first go round and when that would not heal they moved up and
took my leg just below the knee. The 3rd surgery was to implant a Implantable
Cardiac Defibrilator in my chest. During my 2 1/2 months in the hospital the
doctors advised the family to say goodbye to me 3 different times. But guess
what I'm still alive and kicking even if I am dull. I wish that I could offer
you more info that would be useful to you, Herb (Bear)
On Thu Apr 25 12:40:24 2002 () said:
Herb Faith Marc B Herb
On Thu Apr 25 12:29:14 2002 () said:
On Thu Apr 25 12:25:18 2002 Faith ()
said: Guilty Me? You are right!!! I am. Love Faith
On Thu Apr 25 12:25:18 2002 Faith () said:
Guilted?? Yeah right!!!
On Thu Apr 25 12:22:42 2002 () said:
Connie---Rhetoric....you should buy a
dickshunairie for 'pelling'
On Thu Apr 25 12:22:20 2002 Faith () said:
Pauline, Type 1, was called
juvenile onset, is usually the pancreas is not producing insulin. For whatever
reason the islets have been distroyed. This is a simple answer, there is really
a lot more to it, but for brevity reasons I'm posting this. Type 2, was called
old-age onset diabeties. This is usually caused by the body not being able to
produce enough insulin, this also is caused by several different things. We are
seeing this type (2) in children now days. Mainly because they are not getting
the proper diets and/or exercise. This is really the worst kind of diabeties,
because so many people have it and don't know it till it's almost too late, and
the damage has been done. Hope this helps!
On Thu Apr 25 12:19:39 2002 Dear cut&paste () said:
What was it that
Faith said one day about killing her kid and not telling God about it, or
something like that???????????
On Thu Apr 25 12:18:16 2002 () said:
faith,,,,are you a connie
hater??????????if not,,,,why did you have to be guilted in to answering her
today??????????
On Thu Apr 25 12:15:58 2002 () said:
Yes Faith, it was necessary, to answer
Connie's sarcastic nasty post....ever YOU agree on this one.
On Thu Apr 25 12:15:26 2002 () said:
too late faith. if you really really
cared you would have answered poor poor connie yesterday....being guilted in to
answering her now does not count, babe....
On Thu Apr 25 12:13:21 2002 () said:
After 40 most people are fat sick
cows.
On Thu Apr 25 12:12:17 2002 Faith () said:
11:06:08 = Now I ask you, was
this post really necessary???? -----Connie, even though our 'little' friend said
it in a hateful manner, he/she/it is right in one respect, apparently no one had
an answer for you. Myself, I'm on the pump and I have kept it on during surgery.
Last surgery, they had me take my blood pressure medicene before surgery. Hope
that helps.
On Thu Apr 25 11:50:16 2002 Pauline (mmfdiab@westman.wave.ca) said:
I work
for a diabetes program & I was wanting to know why does Type 1 usually occur
before age 40 & Type 2 after age 40?
On Thu Apr 25 11:33:47 2002 () said:
AND WHY DOES A BIKE NEED A HELMET???? I
WOULD THINK THE RIDER IS THE ONE WHO NEEDS IT......DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
On Thu Apr 25 11:09:26 2002 () said:
ANITA WHAT DO BIKE HELMETS HAVE TO DO
WITH DIABETES PLEASE EXPLAIN MORE.
On Thu Apr 25 11:06:08 2002 () said:
connie, poor poor connie, your post
asked for advice from anyone who's been through what you're going through. did
you ever stop to think that maybe none of us have gone through it???? quit the
pity party and get over yourself already.....ok, babe?????
On Thu Apr 25 11:04:44 2002 () said:
Let us Pray to Allah and the other one
thousand names of god that HE bring down the nuclear fire of RETRIBUTION upon
ISRAEL for their Murders and taking of the RIGHTFULL Palestine Homeland.
On Thu Apr 25 10:42:09 2002 Connie () said:
Well thanks for nuthin'
again....I asked for help from my chat buddies and got nothing but retoric and
garbage to scroll thru. Thanks, Gordo I'll e-mail you, you're the only one who
cared enough to reply. Connie
On Thu Apr 25 10:06:20 2002 () said:
PRAISE Jesus is King PRAISE
On Thu Apr 25 10:01:45 2002 Anita E. Allman (aeallman@piggott.net) said:
I
am doubly blest this week, my 8 year old granddaughter got to go back to school
after a freak bike accident where she was going so slow riding by her mom and
baby brother in a stroller that the bike fell over and she suffered a subdural
hematoma. She is back in school and doing great as of yesterday. This is an
appeal to all for buying bike helmets for your lil ones. Taking that advice, I
have bought them for grandcritters this past week. Also there is a new lil one
that I got to go see in Kansas, born 10 days ago, Makayla Dell Allman, is
totally precious, no predjudice at all. Big brother Kyle, age 3, even approves
of her too. My blood sugar is doing well, am exercising and really watching the
diet just have a lot of stress that I am still trying to overcome. This was once
one of my favorite places to visit and share online. I hope it becomes that
again. Love, Anita
On Thu Apr 25 09:56:18 2002 () said:
KNOCK OFF THAT HOLY ROLLER BIBLE
THUMPING.......RELIGION IS MADE UP OF MYTHS LIES AND FANTASY
On Thu Apr 25 09:53:42 2002 () said:
If you meet me and forget me you will
have lost nothing. If you meet Jesus and forget him you will have lost
everthing.
On Thu Apr 25 09:52:23 2002 () said:
CB said: diabetic men are weak, fat
cows!
On Thu Apr 25 09:37:44 2002 Faith () said:
Thanks CB! Herb, you old Bull
you, I loved the email re: Oklahoma! Too Funny!
On Thu Apr 25 08:10:41 2002 () said:
Do I still qualify as dull? Love Herb
On Thu Apr 25 02:32:20 2002 CB () said:
The word "some" is a nonspecific
pronoun unless qualified by a name or other means of id. If 61% of the adult
populace is obese, then some diabetic men must be part of that group. I did NOT
have any specific individual in mind here. Have fun, Ap!
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