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On Tue Apr 16 23:24:56 2002 CB () said:
Dan, email is down, so I have to
respond here. Periodic diet counseling is necessary, I believe, Although I have
been hindered more than helped by it. Yes, that IS following the regimen!
On Tue Apr 16 22:44:38 2002 S.DANIEL ROBERT (dan77in@yahoo.com) said:
I am a
lecturer in dietetics. I am doing a research on effect of periodic diet
counseling among diabetic patients.I would like to know have you done such study
before? I will be very thankful if you could let me know the success rate of
those who followed the diet advise regularly. Thanks
On Tue Apr 16 18:24:11 2002 Desert person (hcbkay@hotmail.com) said:
Has
anyone had any problems taking their Glucometer with test strips and lancets on
an airplane?
On Tue Apr 16 16:21:56 2002 Jim () said:
Hello everyone. Chris- I'm not sure
if you're really asking for help after reading your unique email address, so in
case you are, I'll try to answer part of your question. As I do not and never
have taken illegal drugs, I'll try to answer the alcohol question. Alcohol
should be used only in moderation (in my opinion) if a person is healthy, and
very very carefully or not at all if you have any health problems. Where the
danger lies with a diabetic, is that alcohol will raise your blood sugar
INITIALLY. Due to toxifying the liver and basically slowing it down the liver
after a while stops dumping glucose, or as much into the bloodstream. For almost
the whole day after getting intoxocated, the liver is trying to "revive" itself
and doesn't release much glucose. When you're taking oral meds for your
diabetes, and don't check your levels very often, you can have some pretty
severe lows. Often people fight like crazy to keep their blood sugar up the next
day. I would think a hypoglycemic patient would have even a harder time after a
night of indulgence in the spirits. This is at least the way I understand it. If
I'm wrong on any part of this, I'm sure I'll be corrected, or in some cases
mocked or called names. So be it. Have a good day everyone. Jim
On Tue Apr 16 16:20:14 2002 () said:
DEEP THROAT THOSE PILLS GIRLS !
On Tue Apr 16 16:18:57 2002 () said:
Faith..who said you were mad...settle
down ...PMS
On Tue Apr 16 14:26:12 2002 Faith () said:
Shame on you for lying like that!
Forgive HIM Ellen, he knows not what he's doing!!
On Tue Apr 16 14:13:23 2002 () said:
Ellen did
On Tue Apr 16 14:11:56 2002 Faith () said:
Who ever said I was mad!!!!?????
On Tue Apr 16 13:54:09 2002 () said:
Faith -- I share your problem with the
larger out of shape brain. I dissolve my pill in water and drink it down, since
my brain is pretty large and I'm always afraid I will step on it. I checked with
the pharmacist to make sure it was okay to dissolve the pill prior to swallowing
it. I tried the chewable brand of pills, but they seemed to give me a pain in
the neck. Thanks CB, for the mention about liquid vitamins -- it hadn't ever
occurred to me to look for liquid vitamins for adults with hugh out of shape
brains. I guess I always assumed they made those only for small children.
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On Tue Apr 16 13:06:21 2002 Ellen (X) said:
Faith -- I share your problem
with swallowing the larger pills. I dissolve my calcium pill in water and drink
it down, since the thing is pretty large and I'm always afraid I will choke on
it. I checked with the pharmacist to make sure it was okay to dissolve the pill
prior to swallowing it. I tried the chewable brand of calcium pills, but they
seemed to give me a stomach ache. Thanks CB, for the mention about liquid
vitamins -- it hadn't ever occurred to me to look for liquid vitamins for
adults. I guess I always assumed they made those only for small children.
On Tue Apr 16 12:58:47 2002 () said:
I like middle aged women when they get
mad.
On Tue Apr 16 12:57:35 2002 () said:
FAIT THATS JUST THR PART OF YOU THAT
DOES NOT WANT TO BE MARRIED TO A PREACHER. SHAME SHAME SHAME
On Tue Apr 16 12:35:28 2002 Chris (marvelousbastard@yahoo.com) said:
I was
just wondering if anyone knew what the exact effects of marijuana, and alcohol
was on hypoglycemics. I have a friend and am very concerned.
On Tue Apr 16 11:33:39 2002 Faith () said:
CB, thanks, I guess I was just
making an excuse. But hey, I don't like to take liguid meds either. LOL Herb,
you and Jodi take care. I'm sure all that driving she has to do isn't much fun
either.Hope the check-ups come out good. 11:00:06 - oh well, I never did claim
to be a preacher, am just married to one! What can I say!? BTW, if I knew who
you were, telling me to let it go, maybe I'd consider it, and then maybe I
wouldn't!
On Tue Apr 16 11:16:16 2002 CB () said:
Faith: There are liquid vitamins at
any health food store. Also, smaller caps are out there too.
On Tue Apr 16 11:00:06 2002 . (.) said:
Faith: whatever happened to "ignore,
ignore, ignore" You preach, but don't practice. Let it go.
On Tue Apr 16 10:59:59 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Mornin'
all. boy faith you must have a dainty tiny little girls throat, can't take one
vitamin pill? I take 17 pills in one gulp every morning with my sugar free Tang.
But then Jodi has said for years that there is nothing about me that is little
or small. She never has cut me much slack. Years ago when I got my first pair of
tri-focals I was complaining about not being able to see my feet. I made the
statement that I had lost my feet. She responded with "Herb, you lost your feet
years ago and it had nothing to do with your glasses". We are leaving for the
city in the morning. We have to go through Seminole and drop the tax info at the
CPA's. We had to file for an extension since we just got one of the W2's
yesterday. I have a Cardiologist appointment Thur morning at 10:00 and a Endo
and a Opthamologist appointment next Monday. So we will stay in OKC and help
with Beth until Monday even though we have not had a cry for help. Beth has
always loved this time of year. She has a real green thumb and by now she has
usually been working in her flower beds for weeks. Some of the ladies from her
church came by yesterday and cleaned out all of her beds and planted a bunch of
stuff for her since she can no longer do it. I'll be lurking around the rest of
today and will return next week. You guys keep good conrrol and maintain good
health. Herb and Jodi
On Tue Apr 16 10:45:16 2002 Faith () said:
10:38:52 - I knew it, I knew it!
You are a , a, oh never mind, you are such a sick, (and I don't mean w/diabetes)
person, and you dare put Jim down for his choice of words. Where is your concern
for the children who may come here? Get a life!!
On Tue Apr 16 10:40:10 2002 () said:
faith do you like cats ?
On Tue Apr 16 10:38:52 2002 () said:
fAITH PLEASE DO MOT BE AFRAID OF BIG
THINGS...JUST WORK AT IT AWHILE HEE HEE
On Tue Apr 16 10:37:15 2002 () said:
YES CB YOU'RE SO TOUCHING....HEE
HEE
On Tue Apr 16 10:35:57 2002 () said:
FAITH WHY DON'T YOU AND C.B. MEET
SOMEWHERE AND HE CAN GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAM !
On Tue Apr 16 10:34:15 2002 () said:
Faith and CB are getting married at the
gym
On Tue Apr 16 10:24:00 2002 Faith () said:
Thanks CB! I know I should take
Vitamins, but most of the pills are so big, and I have a hard time with them.
Calcium pills are worse! 18:05 - It's so touching that you 'care' so much about
my health and mental state! Just don't worry your little ole mind about me,
concentrate on your own [mind]. And boy, calling me erratic, that's a laugh!!!
Go look in a mirror!!! Now, go and be a good little boy!
On Tue Apr 16 03:31:57 2002 CB () said:
Faith, I suggested that vit/mineral
because it does help the body's immune system. It ought to be a given that
diabetics need exra vitamins because of the condition!
On Mon Apr 15 22:14:30 2002 () said:
BUT DID YOU ASK YOUR POOR HUSBAND IF
YOU WERE SOMETIMES A MONSTER ? YOU SEEM SO ERRATIC ON HERE WE WORRY ABOUT
YOU.
On Mon Apr 15 18:08:07 2002 () said:
Nope, no Perfect Mind Syndrome!
On Mon Apr 15 18:05:18 2002 () said:
HOW ABOUT MENOPAUSE ARE YOU TURNING
INTO A MONSTER ?
On Mon Apr 15 16:33:33 2002 Faith () said:
15:14:56 2002 - Both were used
correctly and spelled correctly, look it up, if you can. Nope, no PMS, had that
taken care of a long time ago. I'm feeling great!!!!
On Mon Apr 15 15:18:27 2002 () said:
ARE C.B. AND FAITH MARRIED NOW OR JUST
GOING STEADY ?
On Mon Apr 15 15:16:57 2002 () said:
Faith some good sex would fix most of
your problems.
On Mon Apr 15 15:14:56 2002 () said:
Faith is it DROL or DROLL ? You are
calling everyone fools today, must be your word for the day...glad you did not
leave poor Jim out of your rant.
On Mon Apr 15 15:11:38 2002 () said:
Faith did your PMS cut in.? WE bet your
poor husband must wish for a way out from you !
On Mon Apr 15 14:41:47 2002 Faith () said:
Herb, don't worry, he/she/it
is'nt getting to me. He/she/it is more amusing than anything else. He/she/it can
dump on me all he/she/it wants. Getting angry with he/she/it is not worth the
bother.
On Mon Apr 15 14:31:09 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Good
afternoon everyone. It's cloudy threatening rain here. We have been having our
monsoon season here. The back yard looks like a swimming pool. In July and
August we will be praying for rain. One day last week we had 11 inches in one
day. It does this here twice a year, once in the spring and once in the fall. It
also looks like we are going to have another year with no Spring where we go
directly from Winter to Summer. Last week we had temps in the 20s at night this
week they are predicting high 80's during the day. Faith, CB, hang in there
guys. Don't let them get to you. There are those of us on here who know both of
you and love you for what and who you are. Jim this applies to you as well.
Faith, thanks for your kind comments regarding the family. We have always felt
that the example we set for them was more important than any preaching that we
might be tempted to do. Neither Jodi's or my parents spent a single day in a
nursing home even though it was difficult at times. Beth spiked a fever
yesterday. It has been 10 days since she completed her last round of IV
anti-biotics. Both Jodi and Kris say that this was expected and will happen
several more times in the future. We are expecting a call almost any time that
will cause us to go to OKC. If I disapear from here that will just mean that the
phone rang. My BS has been great for this past week here at home as usual and it
will go out of control while we are in OKC. Thanks for listening. Keep good
control and maintain good health. Herb and Jodi
On Mon Apr 15 14:08:28 2002 Faith () said:
I don't think so!!! He just can't
fight facts with his/her/its attitude!!
On Mon Apr 15 13:04:08 2002 () said:
FAITH THE AP IS LOOKING LIKE THE FOOL
THAT YOU ARE
On Mon Apr 15 11:38:39 2002 () said:
FAITH THE AP IS MAKING YOU LOOK LIKE
THE FOOL THAT YOU ARE
On Mon Apr 15 11:25:39 2002 Faith () said:
10:50:10 Oh, how droll! But what
can you expect coming from such a Drol person.
On Mon Apr 15 10:50:10 2002 () said:
CB, thanks for the input. BTW, the
infection was in one of the incisions from the brain lift I had in Feb. Today
I'm swollen down to below my ears. The doctor had to make an incision on each
side of the brain, clean out the site, down to the skull, (that's where the hard
work came in), and then stitch it back up. At least there is no brusing. Anyone
who comes on here they are fools. So come on and speak out for all the
fools.
On Mon Apr 15 10:32:09 2002 Faith () said:
CB, thanks for the input. I'll
look into 'Womens Blend'. BTW, the infection was in one of the incisions from
the brow lift I had in Feb. Today I'm swollen down to below my eys. The doctor
had to make an incision on each side of the original one, clean out the site,
down to the skull, (that's where the cauterizing came in), and then stitch it
back up. At least there is no brusing. Herb, your family is wonderful. I wish it
had been possible to have kept Mother with me. Although she didn't go into a
nursing home till 4 days before her passing, the last four years, she had been
in an assisted living arrangement. That's what my husband and I are considering
if one of us ever needs assistance. (Or both!) More power to your family. How is
your daughter Beth? She is in my thoughts and prayers. BTW CB, don't waste your
time with the local naysayer. He keeps using the term "we" on here, and I know
for a fact he's only speaking for himself/herself/its. He can't stand to see
anyone share things that work for them. He tries to pretend he is out here to
protect others from mis-information. Well, when has he EVER given any good
constructive info here. If anyone comes on here and takes the suggestions and
info as gospel, they are fools. But, I guess he/she/it thinks since he/she/it is
a fool, he/she/it has to speak out for the other fools. Oh well! It takes all
kinds!!
On Sun Apr 14 17:28:25 2002 () said:
Joy = Sheri
On Sun Apr 14 15:15:53 2002 Jim () said:
Interesting story at the following
address for all diabetics.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/conditions/04/14/heart.attacks.ap/index.html
On Sun Apr 14 13:56:17 2002 Joy (N/A) said:
JEEPER CREEPERS...this site
never changes!!!! I havn't been here in a "very looooooong time", but I see the
same old hateful person(s), still has not gotten tired of posting nasties here!
Oh well....I just wanted to stop by and see if the diabetics here have heard
about, INGAP, or GLP-1? If not, look them up in a search engine. These 2 things
sound promising for diabetics!
On Sun Apr 14 06:06:51 2002 () said:
CB go back and read your own posts,
nobody attacked you about eating greens and flax oil. The warning was for your
mega doses of vitamins and weightlifting supplements...you always take the
position of being just a poor do gooder being put down by CDE's and other
medical professionals..you take a aggressive, threatening,hostile attitude with
the people on here. You do come up with some good posts in the past ...but then
when someone balks at your advice you rage at them as being stupid and part of
the grand conspiracy to keep sick people sick, and tied to medical
professionals.
On Sun Apr 14 00:21:23 2002 () said:
CB why don't you read up on the effects
of high doses of some vitamins and herbs ? The effects thay have on medical
tests and organs...you are a very dangerous person with your little knowledge of
what you preach.
On Sun Apr 14 00:17:12 2002 () said:
But CB, alot of your medical advice is
very dangerous...the new people that come here do not know what sort of person
you are, that you have a pathlogical hatred of medical people that is reflected
in what you post....we are just trying to protect people from your quack
advice.
On Sun Apr 14 00:02:14 2002 () said:
flax oil causes rashes
On Sat Apr 13 23:38:03 2002 CB () said:
Dear AP: Did I not say Faith should
ask her CDE about Women's Blend? I consider you to be an unread idiot!!! After
all, you attack healthy nutrition when you know nothing about it! For example.
people with cancer are given large doses of glutamine each day to prevent body
wasting, with no ill effects! Of course, you are ignorant about that. Who else
but an ignorant fool would attack eating lots of greens each day? Who else but a
fool would question the safety of flaxseed oil and vitamins????!!!! I think most
people here see through your ignorance! Do us all a favor and shut up!
On Sat Apr 13 20:46:52 2002 Sam (raneysam@yahoo.com) said:
Herb (Bear)...you
are one lucky man, to have such a family! Only trust your heart, and do what you
need to do...don't let any opinions here sway you. I have 2 children...my Son is
very ill, and my Daughter is alone...there will be no family for me. No where to
go, when I am worse, which will happen. I am eldest. The family farms used to
help their older & ill relatives...give them a place to be...but they are
becoming a thing of the past, with all the big factory farming coming in, for
big profit. Only a few families can do this, and you are lucky to have one. I
really enjoy your posts! and good luck!!
On Sat Apr 13 17:28:15 2002 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Good
afternoon everybody. All the flak that I received regarding my going into a
nursing home caused me to spend the day yesterday considering whether or not I
was imposing my personal feelings on my family to their detriment. I have to
accept that my personal feelings regarding nursing homes are not positive. So I
spent the day talking with each of my five children and their 4 spouses on the
subject. First let me say that we have raised our kids to think for themselves
and to not be afraid to express their true feelings. Over the years I have
butted heads with all 5 of the kids when they thought I was wrong. In my
conversations the first thing that was evident was that this is a subject that
the kids have discussed among themselves because they all had virtually the same
thing to say. 1. At this point in time they nor I have a vote. The decision is
up to their Mother up until the point that they feel like she is incapable of
making a rational decision. And right now that decision is NO! 2. When the time
comes that she is no longer capable of caring for me full time we will examine
the posibility of having some outside caregiver type of help come into the home.
3. When this is no longer practical we will sell or rent the house here in
McAlester and one of them will either build on to their house or move to a
larger house so we can move in with them. 4. They will only consider a nursing
home when I get so bad that it is impossible to care for me at home. They all
feel that it is important to set an example for their kids as to the families
responsibility to the aged members of the family. I have long been proud of our
kids, but never more so than right now. I know that some of you are going to
come unglued at the prospect of what I have said here. But, you know what, I
don't care. We have always tried to stress the importance of family with our
kids and never knew exactly how much they had absorbed or accepted. Now we know,
and I am extremely proud. Herb (Bear)
On Sat Apr 13 17:17:16 2002 () said:
C.B. have you ever in your life had
anything good to say about any medical professional anywhere ?
On Sat Apr 13 16:48:41 2002 () said:
I think Walgreens has them....go on
their web site ans send a e-mail...or contact the maker and see what chain is
selling them
On Sat Apr 13 14:17:19 2002 To Marc B (Re: Glucowatch) said:
Hi. Where do
you buy it please because I can't find it. Ty
On Sat Apr 13 05:26:57 2002 () said:
WARNING ! using CB"s diet suggestions
may cause injury or death ! DO NOT take his advice without discussing it with
your DE or Doctor ! WARNING ! WARNING !
On Sat Apr 13 04:58:35 2002 CB () said:
Faith, sorry to hear of the
infection after your tooth surgery. I have been helped by a product called
"Men's Blend," a multivitamin. The same company makes a "Women's Blend."Of
course, I can't say your CDE will approve, but info is available at
supernutrition.com. I hardly ever get even a cold after starting the men's
blend. I take 2 tabs after meals with a vitamin C capsule, and the immune system
seems to resist infection better. I can't guarantee you would experience the
same. It might be worth checking it out! Of course ask your CDE and ignore the
idiot AP who will post a warning about this. He/she is intelligent of course;
vitamins will injure or kill diabetics! Therefore, their diets should be
vitamin, mineral, and protein free! Just in passing, I plan to start juicing
Monday, spinach, parsely, a carrot, ginger, and lots of garlic! It is an energy
dring that is supposed to work well.
On Sat Apr 13 02:56:27 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
JD:a few more comments re:Glucophage Watch: The batteries have to be changed
4-6 months. Aside from the watch giving you a misreading,(if you sweat) though I
understand it can detect both high and low sugars,you still must test. At least
a few times a day. Also,extreme heat,(hot weather) can cause the watch to either
give you a false reading,or break down. I'm not sure what the warranty is on it.
You might wish to look for it through the diabetes month magazine,published by
"American Diabetes Association". It is called:"Diabetes Forecast". Not only does
your GP have to prescribe it for you,and order it,you and your diabetes team
have to take some sort of training course to learn how to get the proper use out
of it. I think it is worth trying to order.
On Sat Apr 13 01:50:14 2002 () said:
Thanks Mark, was reading back on here,
why is there so much hot discussion on religion on a diabetic information place
?
On Sat Apr 13 01:46:08 2002 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Helow JD,I too have read and heard about the "Glucowatch"-It is available in
Canada/USA. You(in Canada,I think maybe in USA) do need a GP's prescription for
it. Canadian cost:about $500-650.00. No,you still have to test your blood. Not
as often as without it. The device has several flaws,sometimes,if your sweat,it
can give a false reading. Some people have developed allergies to the watch(skin
type) From what I've read,the makers of it are trying to improve it. Good luck.
Marc Bernstein.
On Sat Apr 13 01:39:10 2002 () said:
Hi JD, those have been out awhile...you
can look of thrir website for photo and more information..they are somewhat
costly to use but do do away of having to stick your finger. I do not know of
anyone on this site that has one...They would be a good thing for children I
think.
On Sat Apr 13 00:29:36 2002 JD (Hazelmere2@yahoo.com) said:
I have discover
a company cygnus that mades a glocuse monitering wrist watch does anyone have
any thoughts about this?
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