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On Sat Mar 9 18:20:32 2002 () said:
THANK YOU.

On Sat Mar 9 16:51:53 2002 () said:
no, god told you to die...wish you would listen....

On Sat Mar 9 07:48:38 2002 () said:
GOD TOLD ME TO HATE YOU !

On Sat Mar 9 04:14:26 2002 () said:
Faith, there is no difference....your christianity is as much a cult as the Branch Davidians...you are involved and brainwashed in it...and you would force every living thing into it if you could...look up any history of cults..you will find yourself wrong, just as the Heavens Gate and Jonestown were also cults. Like the Baptists and the Catholic cults would fight each other to the death to be on top if you could.

On Sat Mar 9 00:15:05 2002 Faith () said:
Me, a religionist, nope! I'm a Christian, but you wouldn't know the difference. A cult, wrong again! Free will is your right to choice how you live your life. With or without Christ!

On Fri Mar 8 21:38:30 2002 () said:
CB,referring to yourself in the 3rd person , as many of your posts do, is a sure sign of progressive mental illness.

On Fri Mar 8 21:26:22 2002 () said:
CB the only thing your post reflects is your lack of formal interaction with people beyond your weightlifting friends.

On Fri Mar 8 19:03:25 2002 CB () said:
Faith: This unmoving anti Christian oppositian disproves free will toward God. Doesn't exist. BTW, the board reflects a medication mentality vs a nutritional one. BTW, ask your doc about flaxseed oil and a high fiber diet. Borage oil is another option if the doc approves.

On Fri Mar 8 18:00:29 2002 () said:
FREE WILL = INFINITE REGRET = PITY = TRUTH = GUILT = SHAME = MONEY

On Fri Mar 8 17:27:03 2002 () said:
annybody here in the Cathylick church also ?

On Fri Mar 8 17:08:18 2002 () said:
GOOD POSTS JOHN V !!!! WE NEED YOU HERE !

On Fri Mar 8 16:47:32 2002 () said:
Why should it be sad that each person makes his own choice ? Sad for you because you cannot jam your myths and fantasy down everyones throats ?....Yes, sadly for you that some of us still have the choice of freewill and choose not to live in your repressive sexest racial world....so Faith and all the little Faiths take your line of BS and put it in your money basket on Sunday.

On Fri Mar 8 16:42:09 2002 () said:
another dose of religionist pity, guilt and truth....there is no afterlife...you religionsists only use the concept to scare , keep people in line and make money for your cults....like when religion ruled the world, witch burnings and killings....was called The Dark Ages, you and Faith would do the same if we did not have laws keeping you religionists from taking over the USA....you are no different than the Taliban, only in a different place.

On Fri Mar 8 15:03:22 2002 * (*) said:
Faith, there are many people who agree with you; many who know that this life is not "all there is." The poster at 11:53:41 is to be pitied, because they think this life is all they have. It's so sad that they choose not to believe the truth, but sadly, it is a CHOICE each person makes, whether they realize it or not. It's also sad that just microseconds after they draw their last breath they will realize, with infinite regret, just how wrong they were. But that's how free will works.

On Fri Mar 8 14:31:25 2002 Faith () said:
11:53:41, oh how I feel sorry for you. I am far from being feeble of mind! You are one to be pitied. To think that this horrible world with people like you in it, is all there is, is such a loss. If you don't agree with me, then sorry, but don't attack me when I express my love and thankfullness for where my Mother is now. And oh, BTW, I have all the free will I need! That's the beauty of God, he gives us free will, but what we do with it is often the wrong thing. And a final comment, you may not believe "In the beginning was God...", but I do. Now please, respect my loss and do not attack me here again. I ask you this in all that is decent.

On Fri Mar 8 13:23:51 2002 () said:
Is a rabid animal and a rabid atheist the same ? Sounds like JimSpeak.

On Fri Mar 8 13:08:18 2002 () said:
12:25:50 = Tit - sucking ring kissing religionist

On Fri Mar 8 12:25:50 2002 () said:
11:53:41 = John V. a rabid atheist! John, you have no shame and no hope. Too bad for you. Now please crawl back under the rock you came from and disappear.

On Fri Mar 8 11:56:58 2002 () said:
GOD WILL PUNISH YOU JOHN V !!!!!!!!

On Fri Mar 8 11:53:41 2002 () said:
Sorry Faith, but there is no afterlife. The concept is only used by the feeble of mind and reason to make up for what they lack in free will.

On Fri Mar 8 11:48:25 2002 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
11:21:31, Thank you!

On Fri Mar 8 11:21:31 2002 * (*) said:
Faith: I offer my deepest sympathy on the loss of your mother. I have experienced this loss myself and I know how deep the grief and pain can be. Sometimes it feels like a big whole has been ripped from your heart. But time will heal the pain. Remember all the good memories you shared and all that she gave you. No one, not even stupid APs, can take that away. About your husband and Lipitor -- be sure his doctor does liver tests (via blood tests) every couple of months. Also watch for any type of moderate to severe muscle pain that is NOT associated with strain or exertion. Muscle pain while taking Lipitor can indicate a toxic reaction to Lipitor. For the blood pressure: ABCNews ran a report showing that acupuncture treatment can be effective in long-term treatment of high blood pressure. AP's may scoff, but several studies have proven it's effectiveness. Ask you doc about it; sounds like your husband needs help and fast.

On Fri Mar 8 11:12:47 2002 () said:
Marc C has made a complete mess of this place!!!! He has returned to his favourite sport of harrassing people on here!!! You people that still trust him will get yours too!!! He will turn on you like a rabid ANIMAL!!! He is BLIND to what he is doing to this place!!!!!!!!!!

On Fri Mar 8 11:12:37 2002 Faith () said:
I'm so disgusted by you ap'ers. Excuse me, but I just lost my Mother, and I KNOW she is with the Lord now, and I will not apologise for saying so. CB and the others who posted to me, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I really thought I had seen the worst out of you idiots, but now you have sunk so low I don't see how you will ever be able to rise above it. 8:46:34, My husband went back in this morning for repeat blood work. The doctor gave him Lipitar (sp?) also to start taking twice a day. I said earlier he was on Zestril, I meant Zocor. I tested his BG last night two hours after supper and it was 211. All of this on top of my Mother's death and I come here and see how stupid people can be. I really don't know why I keep coming here. Maybe my German stubborness will not let the idiots run me away. Thanks again to you that are so caring.

On Fri Mar 8 10:57:05 2002 () said:
Thank you, John V. (10:29:24) for your insight and wisdom.

On Fri Mar 8 10:29:24 2002 () said:
Go to HOME, click on webmaster@diabeticeducationandresearch.org send your e mails to have this place shut down. MUST BE SHUT DOWN NOW !

On Fri Mar 8 10:22:21 2002 () said:
CRAWLING

On Fri Mar 8 10:09:49 2002 () said:
PUSSY PICKERS!

On Fri Mar 8 09:22:09 2002 () said:
SCREW YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Fri Mar 8 09:16:43 2002 () said:
Nice post, 08:40:35 (aka Marc C). I can sense what a caring, supportive person YOU are. So answer this, scumbag: why did you LIE so often before saying you never posted as an AP? This place is crawling with degenerate low-lifes.

On Fri Mar 8 08:46:34 2002 . (.) said:
Faith: So sorry to hear of your Mother's death. My father-in-law also passed away after struggling with Alzheimer's. Some people think that the grief is tempered by the relief that their loved one is no longer suffering - but the grief remains. I know your faith helps sustain you. On another note - clearly your husbands cholesterol level is severely elevated - but is the doctor repeating the bloodwork? Lab assays can sometimes be incorrect. Was he fasting when the blood was drawn? Hopefully, it's not as high as the lab values indicate!

On Fri Mar 8 08:40:35 2002 () said:
hey 8.14,,,,,are you BLIND????????????someone passed away and you just sit on your high horse like a pussy,picking at people..............

On Fri Mar 8 08:28:08 2002 () said:
8:14:52 = Marc C = Stevie boy

On Fri Mar 8 08:14:52 2002 () said:
CB: You are one to talk about caring. You've referred to people on here as "fat cows" and berated people who didn't follow your extreme program of diet and exercise. You tell us how you plan to "squat till you vomit." NOW you want to talk about caring! You rant up there with the other low-life cretin on this board -- Jimmie-boy. You two should go off and start your own "support" club. Gosh, with the way you two show how much you care, I'm sure people would flock to it -- just like lemmings off a cliff.

On Fri Mar 8 03:50:07 2002 () said:
then leave

On Fri Mar 8 03:48:29 2002 CB () said:
Ap at 8:00 Just WHAT can be said on the passing of one's mother? Faith helps a lot then. To attack expressing that is cruel and uncaring. You may not care about other people's problems. But some of us do. This simply is unacceptable.

On Fri Mar 8 00:06:03 2002 () said:
What kind of whineing religionsist would keep draging their soapbox on to a diabetic chat. There are no words to describe their petty minds

On Thu Mar 7 23:40:58 2002 CB () said:
What kind of hateful louse would respond to someone's loss as did the two APs below? Son't bother with a response other than an apology. There are no decent words to describe wjat you have done.

On Thu Mar 7 21:26:30 2002 () said:
more religionists, on our diabetic chat

On Thu Mar 7 21:22:57 2002 () said:
JESUS TOLD ME TO HATE YOU !

On Thu Mar 7 19:25:37 2002 Faith () said:
Mary, thank you too!! I'm trying to stay ontop of my "D". BTW, besides my husbands high BG level, one of my brothers just was told recently he is Type 2. Boy, this 'lovely' disease likes my family.

On Thu Mar 7 19:23:47 2002 Faith () said:
Thank you CB, He is with us and that is what is carring us all through this time. Again, thank you!!

On Thu Mar 7 19:22:39 2002 Mary () said:
Faith, I am so sorry to hear about your mother. I hope you will take care of yourself during the next few days. They will be very hard on you. Mary

On Thu Mar 7 19:21:52 2002 Faith () said:
I just went back to my post before my last one, and was going to read up to it. But, forget it! Reality is bad enough for me right now, and the idiots on here are not worth it. Thank goodness we still have some on here that are rational. Before I sign off, my husband just found out some health problems that are astounding. And before I even tell it, let me preface this by saying I swear this is true by all that is Holy! The lab people hand carried it to the doctor-they were so shocked by it. His cholestrol reading was 1900!! Along with this he had a 165 BG., and if that wasn't enough, his BP was up to 160/90. Does he sound like a time bomb about ready to go off, or what. Maybe now he will get busy and get the extra weight off. When he was on Baycol he was doing fine, but when they took it off the market he was put on Zestril and obviously it is not working. I wonder what else is going to come and knock on our door!

On Thu Mar 7 19:21:12 2002 CB () said:
May the peace won by Jesus comfort you in your loss, The Good Shepherd will preserve all the Sheep for whom He died. I am impressed once again with the cruelty of the AP's. Most of the [psts today aren't worth reading. They are cruel and heartless! Nothing this world dishes out can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

On Thu Mar 7 19:10:29 2002 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
For those of you here who care, my Mother, Hazel Williams, 85 yrs old, passed away peacefully last night at the nursing home we had just put her in on Saturday. I "know" she is in a better place. PTL! I appreciate those of you who have, during the last 3 1/2 years, encouraged me at the worst times. THANK YOU!

On Thu Mar 7 16:51:37 2002 () said:
MARC AND JIM PLEASE STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Thu Mar 7 16:29:57 2002 My Name Is Not "Jim" () said:
Jim, what does "guts" have to do with signing your name? Do you yank out your intestines each time you post on here? Everyone has "guts" -- some of us choose to leave them alone, safe and secure inside out bodies. Boy, your PC must be a mess!

On Thu Mar 7 16:08:27 2002 Jim (NOT!) said:
Sorry, my mommie is not smart enough to think that up and neither am I. But I can write my name with this big crayon! Wow, I'm a big boy now! Nyah! Ohh, I'm sorry, mommie, please don't wash my mouth out with soap again! I promise I'll be better! Wahhh!

On Thu Mar 7 16:02:02 2002 Jim () said:
Sorry, wrong author. Besides, I have the guts to sign MY name! Jim

On Thu Mar 7 15:37:40 2002 () said:
Hey, Jimmie-boy! Nice limerick at 15:02:43. Did you think of that all by yourself or did your mommie write it for you? Does your mommie know you are back on the computer? Better get off now before she comes to spank you again!!

On Thu Mar 7 15:02:43 2002 () said:
There once was an AP who was stupid/He thought he got shot by Cupid/He tried to shoot back/but a brain he did lack/so he shot his own foot with the arrow.

On Thu Mar 7 14:26:07 2002 Jim (NOT!) said:
There once was a poster named Jim / Whose mental capacity was slim / He tried to pick fights / With all of his might / Though his chances of winning were grim. Remember, it is not nice to fight an UNARMED person!

On Thu Mar 7 14:06:12 2002 To Jim: () said:
Jimbo, you are the all-time snake-in-the-grass, grand poohbah loser! You've bailed out on, backstabbed and lied so much I doubt the devil himself would let you into hell. He couldn't trust you not to backstab him and try to take over the place! You started support groups on Yahoo, then bailed out, claiming personal issues. The only person you care or think about is YOU! You are a lying, conniving, swindeling, two-faced sniveling weasel (and I apologize for the insult to weasels everywhere). Please crawl back into the hole you were hiding in for the past several months and quit trying to redeem yourself.

On Thu Mar 7 13:59:02 2002 () said:
And weasels eat mice !

On Thu Mar 7 13:57:12 2002 () said:
But !! snakes are good !

On Thu Mar 7 13:55:02 2002 () said:
and besides that you take candy from babies !

On Thu Mar 7 13:24:27 2002 () said:
comparing notes?????

On Thu Mar 7 12:50:43 2002 Jim () said:
I got news for you M.C. Almost everyone here knows WHO you are and WHAT you are. Besides a snake in the grass, you are a user, and a backstabbing two-faced weasel. You've played people here very well. That is, until we started comparing notes. Never again. C-ya. Jim

On Thu Mar 7 12:27:47 2002 () said:
Theres a song for you below Jimmy-boy!

On Thu Mar 7 12:22:00 2002 M.C. () said:
I could while away the hours, Conferrin' with the flowers Consultin' with the rain. And my head I'd be scratchin' while My thoughts were busy hatchin' If I only had a brain. I'd unravel every riddle For any individ'le, In trouble or in pain. With the thoughts you'll be thinkin' You could be another Lincoln If you only had a brain. Oh, I could tell you why The ocean's near the shore. I could think of things I never thunk before. And then I'd sit, and think some more. I would not be just a nothin' My head all full of stuffin' My heart all full of pain. I would dance and be merry, Life would be a ding-a-derry, If I only had a brain. Gosh, it would be awful pleas'n To reason out the reason For things I can't explain. Then perhaps I'll deserve ya And be even worthy of ya If I only had a brain!

On Thu Mar 7 12:18:43 2002 () said:
THEY WONT PUT CONTROLLS IN SO THEY SHOULD SHUT IT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Thu Mar 7 12:14:26 2002 () said:
NEWBYS...GO TO ANY YAHOO DIABETES CLUB FOR HELP!!!DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME HERE!!!!!THIS PLACE NEEDS SHUT DOWN NOW!!!!

On Thu Mar 7 09:43:57 2002 () said:
Hi Jimbo, the rest of your life is waiting.

On Thu Mar 7 09:15:31 2002 () said:
08:36:38 = John V. - a dirty old man who wants to shut down any chat he cannot control.

On Thu Mar 7 08:36:38 2002 () said:
NEWBYS...GO TO ANY YAHOO DIABETES CLUB FOR HELP!!!DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME HERE!!!!!THIS PLACE NEEDS SHUT DOWN NOW!!!!

On Thu Mar 7 08:32:32 2002 () said:
Get a Lifesaver! Green is best flavor.

On Thu Mar 7 08:20:43 2002 () said:
Get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Thu Mar 7 08:09:37 2002 () said:
TSK TSK

On Thu Mar 7 08:09:05 2002 () said:
HEH HEH

On Thu Mar 7 08:01:21 2002 () said:
STAY HONE========STAY HONEY!!!!!

On Thu Mar 7 07:21:51 2002 () said:
Stay HONE???? Where is HONE????????????DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

On Thu Mar 7 06:05:42 2002 () said:
TRAIN LIKE A ANIMAL ! LIFT TILL YOU VOMIT ! FAT COW WOMEN

On Thu Mar 7 06:04:04 2002 () said:
TSK ! TSK ! FAT OLD COWS

On Thu Mar 7 04:53:36 2002 CB () said:
Jim: Don't waste time with the APs. Note the response to the info I posted about flaxseed oil. Tsk! Tsk! I forgot to mention that cold pressed organic oils will be clearly labeled. Heat does bad things to fat. Before I forget, a product called Vegenaise is a non dairy mayo substitute that uses grapeseed extract in part of its line. Healthy and organic.

On Thu Mar 7 04:13:58 2002 CB () said:
Musclehead? Freak? You bet! I am proud to be one. When my wrist heals, watch out! I will train like an animal. No fat arse for this guy. At 5'5", it will be 160pounds. BTW, the body mass index does not apply to people like me. Hmmm....170 lbs at 12 percent bodyfat sounds even better. Thanks, ya got me planning. One last thing 1:18:37 I wouldn't expect you to do what I suggest. You are too weak; no muscle to do it.

On Thu Mar 7 01:18:37 2002 () said:
CB! You are a muscle head fcking freak. SHUT the HELL Up for once. I would not do a damn thing you suggest. STAY HONE. PREACH to YOURSELF.

On Thu Mar 7 01:10:33 2002 CB () said:
Woops!!! Got broccoli and canteloupe srong. Sorry. Heh heh

On Thu Mar 7 01:07:25 2002 CB () said:
Jim, I believe flaxseed oil is somewhat higher in omega 3 than fish oil. Most are clearly labeled. Use of the oil is advocated by some cardiologists. If it improves cholesterol levels, great! If you decide to try it, use it as a fat exchange, instead of margarine, mayo, etc. The calorie intake will not be affected. I fat exchange is 5gm fat and 45 calories. Some brands contain lignon, a fiber. The vast majority of people can take this with no problem. Ask your CDE; I hardly think she would have a problem with it. For cooking, try cold pressed organic olive oil. Adds great flavor. Garlic too is a healthy flavoring. I seem to remember something good about red onions, but cannot remember. There is nothing dangerous in picking foods with an eye to nutrients. This means for MOST diabetics, there is no need to avoid red leaf lettuce, green leaf lettuce, kale, carrots, spinach, brocolli, cauliflower, tomatoes, yams, cantelope, watermelon, honeydew, and citrus fruits. For most, pineapple, papaya, and mango are fine too. BTW, If all the preceding are avoided, there is a real risk of vitamin deficiency! Take care.

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