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On Wed Dec 19 15:46:53 2001 () said:
FAITH WOULD YOU REALLY KILL YOUR KID
AND TELL (LIE} GOD HE DIED???????????YOUR AS SICK AS MOMMY-BOY MB!!!!!!!!!!!
On Wed Dec 19 15:25:26 2001 () said:
Yes I agree, a person that posts they
would kill their own child....is sick, Right Faith..?
On Wed Dec 19 14:06:58 2001 Faith (saext@hotmail.com) said:
Mary, CB is a
VERY good person to listen to. He has done his homework and has offered very
good advise on here in the past. Don't pay any attention to the idiot on here
that keeps trying to stir up trouble. He is a very sick, sad person. MarcB, hi,
hope things are ok with you. To everyone on here, hope you all, yes, even you
Tom, have a very joyous and healthy holiday and a Happy New Year.
On Wed Dec 19 01:22:23 2001 CB () said:
If you can get fresh peanut butter
made in the store, you are better off, since many commercial butters have added
salt or sugars. Also, consider raw peanut butter. The fat in it is unexposed to
heat, so it is a little better.
On Wed Dec 19 01:16:39 2001 CB () said:
Mary: 2 tbs peanut butter is one
(incomplete) protein and 2 fats. All vegetable proteins lack one or more of
essential amino acids. I would discuss this w/ your CDE. To 22:59:20, I spoke
correctly, no attacks are necessary.
On Wed Dec 19 00:30:55 2001 Another () said:
Mary ..AP means ANONYMOUS
POSTER ..many people on this site choose to keep they names and e-mail addresses
anonymous as they would get hate mail and we had a person on here that collected
e-mail addresses and sold them to telemarketers...some people on here use the
ICQ service or another realtime chat site to meet and exchange information.
On Tue Dec 18 22:59:20 2001 Another () said:
Mary,before you take any
nutritional or medical advice from CB, you should be aware that he has a
pathological hatred of medical professionals, and that you should discuss his
statements and advice with your Doc, DE or nutritional educator...
On Tue Dec 18 19:35:15 2001 Mary () said:
CB, How do you count peanut butter
on diabetes exchanges. The RD at the hospital told me to count 2 tablespoons as
1 protein but then the diabetes books I read say to count as 1 protein and 2
fats so that is the way I count it. Also is it better to buy the reduced fat
peanut butter or the plain? I have been thinking it is better to get the plain.
Marc B.-----------------You need to get back on the board. I still don't know
what the AP stands for. I thought you would tell me. Mary
On Tue Dec 18 18:38:10 2001 CB () said:
Mary, I have a different
understanding of health than the std RD and CDE. I believe fat should be about
15% calories. Protein should be a little higher than usually recommended, unless
ESRD is present. The food pyramid? Unbalanced. Because I believe muscle mass is
lost on the diabetic diet and fat TENDS to increase, I was accused of calling
diabetics "fat cows".
On Tue Dec 18 17:39:28 2001 () said:
CB why don't you answer the sex change
question.....
On Tue Dec 18 17:35:35 2001 Mary () said:
It should!
On Tue Dec 18 17:06:55 2001 () said:
will taking predizone after a
transgender - sex change operation cause one to catch diabetes ,,?
On Tue Dec 18 15:56:44 2001 () said:
13.58.52 = MB
On Tue Dec 18 14:07:29 2001 () said:
Dear 13:58:52: Oh, that retort really
hurt! (NOT!) Did you ask your mommie if you could play on the computer? If not,
you'd better get off and crawl back into your playpen before she catches you.
You could wind up getting your fanny tanned!
On Tue Dec 18 13:58:52 2001 () said:
Dear 13:55:50,BITE ME!!!
On Tue Dec 18 13:55:50 2001 () said:
Dear 12:59:16 -- the post at 11:40:24
was not by Marc B. So far we've gone over 14 hours "whine-free." Maybe it's not
a record, but it is a refreshing change 'o pace.
On Tue Dec 18 12:59:16 2001 () said:
HEY MARC B,,,,,I THOUGHT YOU WERENT
COMING BACK?????????STICK TO YOUR PROMISES HYPOCHONDRIAC!!!!!!!!!!!
On Tue Dec 18 11:40:24 2001 Bad News re: Rezulin... () said:
The first trial
over the diabetes drug Rezulin ended in a win for the drug company,
Warner-Lambert. Here's a link to the AP news story:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011217/bs/diabetes_drug_trial_1.html Not good
news for those who used Rezulin and especially for those who died from using it.
On Tue Dec 18 06:03:08 2001 () said:
CB why don't you be man enough to admit
what you did..?
On Tue Dec 18 06:00:34 2001 () said:
Sorry Mary, CB did say it...look back
in the post archives and you will find it...the back posts you see here only go
back a week or so....
On Tue Dec 18 01:08:42 2001 CB () said:
Mary: Apology accepted! Thank you
for checking back and finding the APs liars. BTW, I do not hawk products but
mention those of good quality. For example, Glucerna (junk) has been mentioned
here, so I mentioned something more nutritious.
On Tue Dec 18 00:10:01 2001 Mary () said:
CB sorry-------- you didn't say
that about the fat cows. I looked back and didn't find it anywhere. I'm sorry
Mary
On Tue Dec 18 00:04:51 2001 Mary () said:
CB is definitly wrong wrong
wrong
On Tue Dec 18 00:03:08 2001 Mary () said:
This is a board to support
diabetics and their problems. Marc B. is asking for help and understanding not a
kick in the teeth. If the mean posters had to put up with the pain and problems
he has they would be more understanding. No one wants to go through this. He
would be happy to live a normal life and he would help others. SUPPORT DIABETICS
ON THIS BOARD Mary
On Tue Dec 18 00:00:16 2001 () said:
Mary,but CB said all the women on here
are fat old cows...you mean CB might be wrong ?
On Mon Dec 17 23:55:41 2001 Mary () said:
Not all type II diabetics are fat
and diabetes is hereditary and not brought on by anyone. I have lots of
relatives with diabetes. Grandmother, 2 brothers, 2 cousins, and some that do
not know it yet. They are not all fat and I am not either. I did not cause this
just as my daughter did not cause her Leukemia. If you don't have diabetes you
should stay off this board and find a back biters board to post on.. MARC B. I
have a question: I have read and tried to figure out what the AP stands for and
cannot figure it out. Please tell me. Thank, Mary
On Mon Dec 17 23:13:51 2001 Another () said:
Marc B..I don't understand your
last post.....could you explain it better ?
On Mon Dec 17 21:23:21 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Finale note:in case what I said below might just be misanterpreted by the
APs here,I thought I'd slightly correct the past statements:Re:Diabetes:
First,to most sane people and those diabetics who know that this disease can be
a real bother,for none of us are going to ever get 100 per cent complete control
over it. Viral infections,stress(such as seen/read here,by APs) is sure to raise
blood glucose sugars. No one is so thick skined that they can indefinately
ignore APs. Not without it causing their diabetes to become more of a problem.
What I meant to say:re:my statement about not one iota of us::we all are
diabetics. Whether we take insulin,diabetic oral drugs,on the pump,we all have
to with how this condition /disease is going to affect us all. There is no cure
yet. Sure,lots of medical advances,but still lots of side effects with some
newer oral drugs. and I have not met any diabetic who doesn't once in a while
break his or her tight self control. Sure,we(and I) lead good enjoyable creative
busy lives. But the finger pricks,the visits to doctors,blood taken each
month,(or how often it may be) it is painful and if you have weak veins in your
arm,you have to hope you get a good tech when you get the blood taken. Hey!
we're all better of than those diabetics prior to Banting's /Best's discovery
(London,Ontario,1921) of insulin.
On Mon Dec 17 21:02:39 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
CB,I agree with you 100 per cent. These rotten,sick,warped,insane and really
obnoxious attacks don't help anyone esp diabetics. You are welcome to exchange
e-mails with me. I thought we are all diabetics,no matter whether we are type
1,or type 2,it does not make one iota of difference (to me) how we control the
disease. I learned long ago,from attending some valued diabetic classes/forums
in Toronto(Sponsored by Canadian Diabetes Association,American Diabetes
Association,Mount Sinai Hospital Of Toronto,or Woman's College
Hospital(Toronto-World renowned) I was part of a great diabetes
programe:"Tridec". They (nurses,doctors,diabetic health care/food specialists)
taught we are all diabetics,and this rather infernal disease doesn't
discriminate. ONLY THE APS DO!!!!
On Mon Dec 17 21:02:37 2001 Faith () said:
Herb, I'm sorry you and Jodi
couldn't have stayed at that lovely cabin longer. But, we all have to come back
to the real world, don't we. I'm still praying for you and Jodi. Hi Faye, long
time no hear. Wishes back to you!!!
On Mon Dec 17 20:51:23 2001 fara Faye (fteague@sugar-river.net) said:
Just
thought I would "drop in" and say hello and let you all know that I am still
here. Not much to say except that I wish you all a very happy, healthy, and
merry New Year.
On Mon Dec 17 20:19:12 2001 Herb (Bear) (hjs38@swbell.net) said:
Jodi and I
are home again. She is absolutely worn to a frazzle. Our 5 days at the cabin was
absolutely wonderful. We caught and ate some fresh fish. The cabin has
absolutely everything for the handicapped and is amazingly beautiful. They
certainly did their homework when they built it. The shower was so large that I
could run my wheelchair right into it. (Not wise with my electric chair) All the
cabinets are built open so you can run a wheelchair right up under them to get
to a sink. It has its own wheelchair accesible fishing dock. And it is at the
end of a dead end road with a gate if you want absolute privacy. We left the
cabin last Thursday at noon and went to OKC to be with Beth and go to Katie's
(Our grand daughter) school Christmas play. She played the part of a grand
mother complete with blue hair and rolled down stockings. Jodi really enjoyed
her portrayal of a grand mother. While at the cabin we went in to Muskogee
Wednesday evening to see the lights at Honor Heights Park. We have never seen
such a display. They even had a huge American flag that waved made with lights.
But alas, all of our rest was for nought. After spending the rest of the week
until today in OKC with Beth Jodi is absoulutely worn to a nubbin. We have a
tree up and a few decorations around but she says that she is just to tired to
do Christmas this year. All of our kids have always come to us for Christmas.
She says that with her being as tired as she is and with Beth and Rick not able
to come it just isn't worth it. Beth's condition prevents her having a crowd at
her house. Kevin and Denny's house is just to small for a crowd the size of ours
and I can't get in their house with the chair. The Albuquerque kids are coming
some time during the holidays to our house. Right now Jodi is just sitting and
bemoaning that she has so much to do and no time to do it in. I want to help her
but I am so limited to what I can do that I cause her more work than I help
with. Blood sugars have come down some, running 120 to 140 with no changes in
diet or exercise, just the time at the lake. Just as soon as I can get caught up
on the back posts I will write most of you specificly. Jodi tried a sugar free
pecan pie recipe at the lake that sure was good. First pecan pie I have had for
years. I will provide the recipe if anyone is interested. Y'all be good and
maintain control. Herb (Bear)
On Mon Dec 17 18:39:43 2001 () said:
CB,,,,WE'LL TAKE YOU SERIOUS WHEN YOU
AND GORDON STOP PEDDLING YOUR 'NUTRITION BARS' TOGETHER....YOU TWO HAVE A
SERIOUS CONFLICT OF INTEREST,BEING ON A SUPPORT SITE HAWKING YOUR
GOODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Mon Dec 17 18:37:26 2001 () said:
HEY MARC B,,,,WE'VE HEARD THE 'I'M
LEAVING' SPEIL OVER AND OVER AND OVER. POOR ME!!!NOBODY DEFENDS ME....BOO HOO
HOO.....DOESN'T THE FACT THAT NOONE DEFENDS YOU TELL YOU SOMETHING YOU
FOOL??????????THEY DON'T CARRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!FOR THAT MATTER NEITHER DO
I!!!!!!!!!!!
On Mon Dec 17 18:04:38 2001 CB () said:
Marc made a good point; the APs are
getting hateful in their attacks! An illness that can cause an early death, and
attack is all they can do! Doesn't matter if exercise or nutrition is the
subject, attack is all they know. Personally, I would feel bad if I were like
that....nothing else to say!
On Mon Dec 17 16:47:56 2001 Marc Bernstein () said:
To all the APs-thanks
all the sarcastic and nasty and derogatory comments-I you are all right. I
realize I am no longer welcome on this chat. Tried my best. Don't like my
posting? Ok. I quit. Honest. To all the APs:thanks-for nothing. I came here in
good faith,tried to share what works for me,how diabetes affects my life. I
regret my being so open here. I know now I'm not welcome on this chat. Since no
one is coming here to my defense,not Faith,not Fara,not Jim,not CB,not Marc
W,nor Herb Shaw,nor Gordon Miller,that's ok. I am bitter but I will learn from
this. Sorry I was so trusting. Anyone that really cares here to keep in touch
with me-you have my e-mail address. Marc Bernstein.
On Mon Dec 17 15:41:01 2001 () said:
Go visit
http://www.famousplayersmovies.com/ Wow, Marc, we're impressed. Like I'm sure
Tom, Robert, et. al. were overwhelmed by the way you stacked the reels on the
projector or hit the forward or rewind button with such finesse. And you think
that qualifies you for a job in Hollywood? As what -- a "go-fer?" With your
overly inflated ego and neverending whining, it's no wonder the only woman who
would (could) live with you is your mother!
On Mon Dec 17 15:11:43 2001 - (-) said:
"I have an important screening in
one hour to do:Tom Cruise's new film:"Vanilla Sky". Yep,I have screened (very
succesfully too) for :Tom Cruise,De Niro,Frank Mancuso,many other people in the
film industry. Your right,and I really will take more time to keep busy with my
projection booth job. I'll tell you this much-true story:years ago,I met the
projectionist for Robert De Niro. He was in Toronto during film festival. I gave
him my resume,we spoke about my flying down to NY for interview with De Niro.
Nothing happened at the time due to some diabetic problems,but it is worth my
keeping my options open." Puuuuleez! Get over yourself Marc! Your illustrious
Famous Players employs nearly 7,500 people - what makes you think you are so
very important to them? It's a freaking multi-plex cinema! They're all over the
place! You show movies - so does the teenager in the booth next to you....except
I heard De Niro actually HIRED him!
On Mon Dec 17 14:33:03 2001 . (.) said:
Just an observation...but doesn't it
seem like the fat Type II's complain about their (mostly self-imposed)diabetes
far more often that Type I's. Heaven help poor Marc B. if he ever has to take
insulin! No way could he handle it!
On Mon Dec 17 13:31:14 2001 () said:
Marc: You are always complaining about
something being wrong. Last week it was your prostate, this week your eyes, next
week -- well who knows what will be wrong with you then. Your constant whining
about everything that goes wrong with you is boring, tiresome and loathsome.
Find something else to write about here. You whine, moan and complain then when
someone pokes fun, you get all offended. Then you threaten to leave "forever"
only to come back (like a bad toothache) to whine, moan and complain some more.
Hey, a 3-month holiday from all that would do everyone here some good. Think
about it.
On Mon Dec 17 13:23:01 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
To the poster @ 12:34:57:PM: I think you are wrong. You don't know me at
all,and BTW,you wouldn't be the same unsympathetic poster who has been writing
here all this time?! For your info:I am not well. I have no choice(despite
migraines,etc) to go in and do 8-10 hours of screenings for my film company.
Can't get a relief projectionist,did not expect that he would be free on short
notice. You think this is some fantasy of mine? How wrong you are! I have been
getting migraines (part of diabetes) for a few months,nothing like this..Can't
see my eye doctor today,he is not in Tuesday,have to see about Wednesday. My
regular GP going away Wednesday for three month holiday. this being a busy
season with new film releases,I just have to do the best I can. No,I'm not
unhappy,just worried,my job depends upon my diabetes not getting worse. It
doesn't matter to me how you see or interpret anything I say,or my worries about
my diabetes or my eyes. Since you not only don't know me,judge me harshly
without signing your real name,I shouldn't really pay attention to you.
On Mon Dec 17 12:34:57 2001 . (.) said:
Marc: You ALWAYS feel ill. People
like you don't want to feel well.
On Mon Dec 17 12:04:49 2001 Marc Bernstein (mbernstein165old@yahoo.com) said:
Hi Faith,you are so right about this board..I'm giving it a rest..I have not
been well all week-end,had migraines i'm getting emergency appointment with eye
doctor who is diabetic specialist today. These intense and very painful stabbing
attacks in my eyes lasted all week-end..The pain has been hell..last time I saw
my eye doctor,he said that because unstable blood sugars,my eyes were more
affected..so far they have been not too bad(higher in evening) I might as well
take time off from this board..I'm not feeling well,have many screenings this
week due to the Christmas trade/market,and so I best see my eye doctor as soon
as possible..the pain from the migraines is almost blinding..no,this is not my
feeling sorry for myself,I really feel ill.
On Mon Dec 17 11:21:48 2001 Faith () said:
Well, not much going on here, I
see! Husband is still trying to pass kidney stone. Will check back in later,
when some sane people are on here. Hi MarcB, hope your day is going great.
On Mon Dec 17 11:07:23 2001 () said:
whats a misanthropes ?
On Mon Dec 17 10:48:29 2001 ..... (......) said:
Marc B, Maybe yesterdays
posts were a way to get these board operators to finally put controls on here.
You are not the only one who has ever been attacked on here. Some of us have
been attacked much worse, and just don't care anymore what happens to it. If
controls would have been put in place long ago, maybe some of us would not give
as we have received. So shut up and quit crying you dam baby....
On Mon Dec 17 10:46:47 2001 () said:
whats a guttersnipe ? is that like a
snipe hunt we had at boyscout camp..?
On Mon Dec 17 10:05:58 2001 () said:
Oh Marc, please try to control your
gutter-mouth. And please quit playing the drama queen. Sheesh, you are so
thin-skinned, you really should stay away from here if you can't handle the
comments. You actually invite most of them by the way you write. You said you
didn't need us, so why not leave.
On Mon Dec 17 09:32:22 2001 CURSE THIS FOUL BOARD () said:
Lying,troublemaking sick APS!!~~~!@#$%^~!!!@@!!! SLANDER-MAKING WARPED
HOSTILE SICK HATEFUL MISERABLE Misanthropes!!! To
Jim,Faith,Mary,Herb,Faye,etc-this board will soon become AP board anyway. No one
else should post here. I say to all the people who know me and are real
friends,Faith,Mary,Fara,Herb,CB,etc-Gordon,time to write to the founders of this
board. This has gone way beyond limits.
On Mon Dec 17 09:24:59 2001 Marc Bernstein () said:
I have not posted at all
today. Rollo,I asked a serious question:I tried to help you as another diabetic.
Forget it. I have written to the founders,phoned them. To Another and all the
garbage writing APs-I have no further comments. What a bunch of disgusting vile
slanderous lies!! Mary,sorry,but I have put up with utter hostility and
degrading constant non-stop abuse from these APS. This board is out of control.
It is no longer a board for diabetics. I can't trust anyone on here. Yes,I have
phoned the founders of this board(Philadelphia) also written to them,I do know
who the person is that runs the chat;they were shocked to find out what kind of
AP vile inane nonsense has been going on,these personal attacks on me,(Untrue
lies) Hateful guttersnipes-~!!!!) I have not posted any of the crap here
today,or last night,except legit replies to Mary and a diabetic question to
Rollo,so whoever YOU ARE-~!!~!@!!#!~~~!! Marc Bernstein.
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